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AMD Ryzen 7 4700G 8-core APU Photos Pops Up

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 05/15/2020 05:57 PM | source: Videocardz | 21 comment(s)
AMD Ryzen 7 4700G 8-core APU Photos Pops Up

AMD is working hard on their RENOIR series APU. The Ryzen 7 4700G already has been caught on camera. The source from Videocardz mentions the product is a final one, and is pending release in stores soon.

The Ryzen 7 4700G is an AMD Renoir processor based on Zen2 cores, however, has embedded graphics. It is rumored that GPU shader core cluster count is 8 Compute Units, multiply that by 64 shader processors per cluster and you'll see 512 Shader processors. This "Renoir" based product shares design elements of Vega, but would hold the display- and multimedia core logic of Navi. The CPU would feature 512 KB of L2 cache per core, and 8 MB of shared L3 cache (4 MB per CCX). The chip will likely have a 65 Watt TDP.

An interesting spot for sure. However, I am inclined to say that the 4-core parts need an IGP to save on build cost, with more expensive 8-core products people would buy a dedicated graphics card anyway.



AMD Ryzen 7 4700G 8-core APU Photos Pops Up




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Kaarme
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#5789140 Posted on: 05/15/2020 09:52 PM
So it is ok to lie as long as the other doesn't realize it?!


What are they lying about? AMD doesn't claim Ryzen 3000 does universally this or that. It's just what people assume. From AMD's pov they are identification numbers for product lines. Like in AMD GPUs they suddenly jumped from 500 series to 5000, not 600. Or like how there were rebrands.

And actually they are selling technology specs (if I get what you mean), we are talking about tech here. What if for example someone has a R3 2400G and sometimes codes in H265, doesn't have the money for more cores but can sell his old R3 and buy for little money a R3400G from the generation that encodes H265 way faster just to have some bump in speed without spending money he doesn't have...well, surprise...


Obviously they aren't since it doesn't work so systematically or logically. Just like in cars you never know if the manufacturer adds or drops some feature one year from the same model. Some spare part might fit in both 2015 model and 2018 model, another part might be totally different. You won't know unless you laborously study the models.

Now, what exactly is advertised for each product I don't know, but that's not the problem. The problem is that someone will hear "Ryzen 3000 series improved in this and that" in a general review, when he finds the time to have a general idea, not the more detailed info we like to get. Why should he know or presuppose that the n gen Ryzen with the G at the end are not actually from the n generation but the previous one, especially if that's a stupid thing to do?


If you don't want to know, then you shouldn't even care about it. It's not like the generation by itself would change how Windows and programs run, even though it might affect how fast they run. Nevertheless, they will run as fast as advertised for the particular model, more or less.

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#5789148 Posted on: 05/15/2020 10:19 PM
When this is released I'll finally replace my tired Intel X99 HEDT 6-core server with a faster, less power consuming, and integrated GPU 8-core AMD.

Hopefully it will work on X370 mobo... and not need X570 or some ridiculous shiet like that

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#5789151 Posted on: 05/15/2020 10:31 PM
So it is ok to lie as long as the other doesn't realize it?!

And actually they are selling technology specs (if I get what you mean), we are talking about tech here. What if for example someone has a R3 2400G and sometimes codes in H265, doesn't have the money for more cores but can sell his old R3 and buy for little money a R3400G from the generation that encodes H265 way faster just to have some bump in speed without spending money he doesn't have...well, surprise...

Now, what exactly is advertised for each product I don't know, but that's not the problem. The problem is that someone will hear "Ryzen 3000 series improved in this and that" in a general review, when he finds the time to have a general idea, not the more detailed info we like to get. Why should he know or presuppose that the n gen Ryzen with the G at the end are not actually from the n generation but the previous one, especially if that's a stupid thing to do?

People who read the reviews about Ryzen 3000 series improved, know about that, because they read the review.
The people that do not read the review are at the disposal of the person that sell them the computer, that is there for that purpose, building and consulting them.
If they do DIY without knowing, that is the wrong way to do things.
In few words the connection between the serie number and the zen core types is known to people that want to know it, for the others is just a product of 100$ vs one of 200 or 300$ and the 100$ is expected to be slower, even by uninformed people.

If you can swap a 2400G with a 3400G by yourself, you know those things.

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#5789163 Posted on: 05/15/2020 11:28 PM
One can use it in semi-server. 8C/16T is rather OK. And not everyone has easy time setting up headless servers.
Important part is power efficiency.
There are likely other reasonable uses for more cores and not so powerful iGPU. 2D graphics of sort?

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#5789166 Posted on: 05/15/2020 11:33 PM
People who read the reviews about Ryzen 3000 series improved, know about that, because they read the review.
The people that do not read the review are at the disposal of the person that sell them the computer, that is there for that purpose, building and consulting them.

No, those two aren't the only alternatives.

If they do DIY without knowing, that is the wrong way to do things.
In few words the connection between the serie number and the zen core types is known to people that want to know it, for the others is just a product of 100$ vs one of 200 or 300$ and the 100$ is expected to be slower, even by uninformed people.

Same.

If you can swap a 2400G with a 3400G by yourself, you know those things.

Again, the same. There are other alternatives, for example, buy the thing, ask/pay someone else to install it...

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