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Guru3D.com » News » AMD Ryzen 7 3800X surfaces in Geekbench, performs roughly similar to Core i9 9900K

AMD Ryzen 7 3800X surfaces in Geekbench, performs roughly similar to Core i9 9900K

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 06/21/2019 07:47 AM | source: Apisak | 92 comment(s)
AMD Ryzen 7 3800X surfaces in Geekbench, performs roughly similar to Core i9 9900K

It won't be more than a week or two before AMD will unleash its new Ryzen 3000 processors and the X570 platform. We're bound to see some accidental leaks beforehand I guess. The first one starts today as a Ryzen 7 3800X has been spotted. 

The eight core Ryzen 7 3800X  CPU shows a base clock of 3.8 GHz and a boost of up to 4.5 GHz. From the looks of things, memory was not configured right, at only 2133 MHz - nonetheless, the results are impressive. The test platform had an 3800X paired with a X470 motherboard and achieved a single-core score of 5406, the generic score was 34059 points. If you give the  Core i9 9900K with DDR4 set at the same speed all equal then it scores about 1% better in single-threaded performance (has a higher boost of 5.0 GHz), however, in multiple threads, there is a win with close to 5% in favor of AMD. Digging a little further shows a 9900K with ddr4-2666 memory to performs more than 14% better on a single thread and half a percent better in the multi-core test.

These tests, of course, and Geekbench in general, say very little, but do show an indication of what we can expect. 



AMD Ryzen 7 3800X surfaces in Geekbench, performs roughly similar to Core i9 9900K AMD Ryzen 7 3800X surfaces in Geekbench, performs roughly similar to Core i9 9900K




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#5682926 Posted on: 06/21/2019 02:28 PM

Ryzen are shi**y overclockers, it was so the first gen, it was so the second, it'll be so the third. It's not me lying, it's you people lying to yourself.

Just to clarify something, a cpu that can clock up to say 5 ghz from 4 ghz does not make it a good overclocker, it's how well that chip scales per clock. Ryzen scales very well from say 3.6 ghz to 4.1 ghz no problem. Conroe chips scaled very well to their clocks as well. Recent performers though from Intel while yes the overclock does help on them, but I would say from Ivy Bridge to current overclock scaling has gone down some in Intel. You may have 1.25x the clock from reference but a number of apps do not scale on that either.

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#5682957 Posted on: 06/21/2019 03:25 PM
Just why that memory speed.....?!?

Are they trying to slow it down on purpose as to not throw it all out there as of yet?? Performance wise that is.

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan things are surely stacking up for a new build....

One that is secure and won't be destroyed in the performance aspect by hardware limitations and or sorry mitigations having to take place.

Haven't turned on my SandyBridge desktop in months just to be sure.....

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#5682958 Posted on: 06/21/2019 03:28 PM
Well they said their mobos would be more expensive this time, not sure how much, but even before they weren't that far off from intel mobos, it's safe to assume that comparable mobos will cost at the very least the same, yes they'll have pcie 4, which is ok, but totally useless at this time, and for at least another couple of years. Intel might end up faster because they make better silicon and they've been improving it for too many years now, software optimization is only a little part of it.

Comparable how? Intel doesn't have any PCIe 4.0 boards for the 9000 series. If you don't care about PCIe 4.0 then you can save yourself a big chunk of cash and get a 400 or 300 series board, making your point about cost moot.
Intel "usual under the table methods" have ceased to exist years ago, but you AMD fans just can't deal with it.

Considering how hard you're retaliating, seems to me it is you who "can't deal with it".
i'd happily pay even 150€ more for a CPU that gives me even "only" 5% more performance in both single and threaded loads

I'm not sure I understand what you're complaining about here... You were basically saying that the price difference of the 3800X vs the 9900K wasn't to your liking, and yet, here you are saying you'd pay ~30% more for a 5% performance difference. So.... why did you bring up price if it isn't actually an issue to you? Make up your mind.
Ryzen are shi**y overclockers, it was so the first gen, it was so the second, it'll be so the third. It's not me lying, it's you people lying to yourself.

Uh.. the first 2 gens were largely the same design made from the same facility. Zen2 functions very differently, is made by a different facility, at a substantially different node size. The boost clocks prove that Zen2 will OC better than previous gens. Are they going to OC better than Intel? Probably not, but they will ostensibly OC "high enough" for most people who don't want to commit to liquid cooling.

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#5682962 Posted on: 06/21/2019 03:36 PM
My wallet is open, but I've still not been pickpocketed.

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#5682966 Posted on: 06/21/2019 03:39 PM
Just to clarify something, a cpu that can clock up to say 5 ghz from 4 ghz does not make it a good overclocker, it's how well that chip scales per clock. Ryzen scales very well from say 3.6 ghz to 4.1 ghz no problem. Conroe chips scaled very well to their clocks as well. Recent performers though from Intel while yes the overclock does help on them, but I would say from Ivy Bridge to current overclock scaling has gone down some in Intel. You may have 1.25x the clock from reference but a number of apps do not scale on that either.

he's just a fool who can't understand what fab limitations are how or why the are related to anything that a chip can do. Zen's limit was because.. GlobalFoundries. you shouldn't have responded really as it's not applicable to the unknown that is TSMCs 7nm

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