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AMD Ryzen 7 3800X surfaces in Geekbench, performs roughly similar to Core i9 9900K
It won't be more than a week or two before AMD will unleash its new Ryzen 3000 processors and the X570 platform. We're bound to see some accidental leaks beforehand I guess. The first one starts today as a Ryzen 7 3800X has been spotted.
The eight core Ryzen 7 3800X CPU shows a base clock of 3.8 GHz and a boost of up to 4.5 GHz. From the looks of things, memory was not configured right, at only 2133 MHz - nonetheless, the results are impressive. The test platform had an 3800X paired with a X470 motherboard and achieved a single-core score of 5406, the generic score was 34059 points. If you give the Core i9 9900K with DDR4 set at the same speed all equal then it scores about 1% better in single-threaded performance (has a higher boost of 5.0 GHz), however, in multiple threads, there is a win with close to 5% in favor of AMD. Digging a little further shows a 9900K with ddr4-2666 memory to performs more than 14% better on a single thread and half a percent better in the multi-core test.
These tests, of course, and Geekbench in general, say very little, but do show an indication of what we can expect.
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#5682862 Posted on: 06/21/2019 11:18 AM
Why is everyone saying this is good? Wasn't the 3800X supposed to smoke 9900K? Remember that at this point the 9900K can be found for less than 500€ (472€ shipping included in my country) and that a decent motherboard is going to probably cost less for the 9900K compared to the 3800K, or at the very least the same, if the 3800X is going to cost only 50-100€ less i'm not sure it's such big of a deal.
Please stop lying. 100 $/EUR difference in CPU price, and you don't need to buy an expensive X570 motherboard. In this test, there was an X470. But you can use B450 or even B350-X370 if you want.... Plus written above, the 3700X will be much better value, as it will probably be able to be OCd to 3800X levels.
Why buy a 3800X then? I mean you can get a x470 no problems, but what's the point, if i buy a new system for example, i'd like to have the best and newest hardware at that point.
Why do you say that with a GTX 1060 in your rig?
Equivalent? It doesn't seem to me they're actually equivalent, they're similar, but not equivalent besides 50-100€ less for the CPU but an equivalent motherboard will probably cost more for the AMD configuration this time, so... that 50-100€ of save might actually be more 50 than 100€, still for a lower performing part, which probably consumes less i give you that, but the 9900K is overall still faster.
1% faster in single thread while being 4-5% slower in multi thread while having much higher power consumption. Why do you lie?
Not forced, but if you buy a high end CPU you might want a high mobo too, and x470 is high end, but of the previous generation, i guess x570 brings something more to the table than just pcie 4 doesn't it?
Why would you? So you don't even know what extra does the X570 adds but you say you need it. LOL
Just did Geekbench on my 5 years old 4790k... I'm not impressed at all.
Obvious troll is obvious.
Why is everyone saying this is good? Wasn't the 3800X supposed to smoke 9900K? Remember that at this point the 9900K can be found for less than 500€ (472€ shipping included in my country) and that a decent motherboard is going to probably cost less for the 9900K compared to the 3800K, or at the very least the same, if the 3800X is going to cost only 50-100€ less i'm not sure it's such big of a deal.
Please stop lying. 100 $/EUR difference in CPU price, and you don't need to buy an expensive X570 motherboard. In this test, there was an X470. But you can use B450 or even B350-X370 if you want.... Plus written above, the 3700X will be much better value, as it will probably be able to be OCd to 3800X levels.
Why buy a 3800X then? I mean you can get a x470 no problems, but what's the point, if i buy a new system for example, i'd like to have the best and newest hardware at that point.
Why do you say that with a GTX 1060 in your rig?
Equivalent? It doesn't seem to me they're actually equivalent, they're similar, but not equivalent besides 50-100€ less for the CPU but an equivalent motherboard will probably cost more for the AMD configuration this time, so... that 50-100€ of save might actually be more 50 than 100€, still for a lower performing part, which probably consumes less i give you that, but the 9900K is overall still faster.
1% faster in single thread while being 4-5% slower in multi thread while having much higher power consumption. Why do you lie?
Not forced, but if you buy a high end CPU you might want a high mobo too, and x470 is high end, but of the previous generation, i guess x570 brings something more to the table than just pcie 4 doesn't it?
Why would you? So you don't even know what extra does the X570 adds but you say you need it. LOL
Just did Geekbench on my 5 years old 4790k... I'm not impressed at all.
Obvious troll is obvious.
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#5682870 Posted on: 06/21/2019 12:16 PM
Oh you're one of those people who are so stuck on intel you think the 3800x requires a x570 board. I'm so sorry for your mindset.
All that shows is how intel hasn't advanced their IPC in quite some time. As well as stated in the article the bench was done with low frequency memory. Also stated in the article that even an intel 9900k with better memory gets a better single-threaded score, and it's already known (unless something changed in Zen2) that AMD loves faster memory.
It's pretty sad though, you can't even find a quad-core 8 threaded processor that is new from Intel anymore, so i guess your older processor is better then current quad-core processors for intel....talk about backwards process'.
Also, your multi-score is pretty horrible, but being the fact it's 5 years old, it makes sense.
Not everything is about single-threaded scores, bud.
Totaly agree, you can even use it on some 300 chipset, (MSI, Asus and Asrock have bios update ready for them)
What make me unhappy is that it is low score (despite being good score) compared to the old gen Intel, even more when you see that Intel will release new one...
AMD will have a good but too pricy CPU and hard to get in some country... same story as the Rysen 2000 on high end.
Anyway i am really happy with the Athlon GE 200 for my use, one of the best CPU i had.
Oh you're one of those people who are so stuck on intel you think the 3800x requires a x570 board. I'm so sorry for your mindset.
All that shows is how intel hasn't advanced their IPC in quite some time. As well as stated in the article the bench was done with low frequency memory. Also stated in the article that even an intel 9900k with better memory gets a better single-threaded score, and it's already known (unless something changed in Zen2) that AMD loves faster memory.
It's pretty sad though, you can't even find a quad-core 8 threaded processor that is new from Intel anymore, so i guess your older processor is better then current quad-core processors for intel....talk about backwards process'.
Also, your multi-score is pretty horrible, but being the fact it's 5 years old, it makes sense.
Not everything is about single-threaded scores, bud.
Totaly agree, you can even use it on some 300 chipset, (MSI, Asus and Asrock have bios update ready for them)
What make me unhappy is that it is low score (despite being good score) compared to the old gen Intel, even more when you see that Intel will release new one...
AMD will have a good but too pricy CPU and hard to get in some country... same story as the Rysen 2000 on high end.
Anyway i am really happy with the Athlon GE 200 for my use, one of the best CPU i had.
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#5682874 Posted on: 06/21/2019 12:26 PM
Not impressed by this new 3800X at the same price level as my 9900k wich can score much higher both single and multi (on air cooling with D15s):
Not impressed by this new 3800X at the same price level as my 9900k wich can score much higher both single and multi (on air cooling with D15s):
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#5682875 Posted on: 06/21/2019 12:26 PM
Ryzens have an absurdly long branch prediction history that make them appear to have better repetitive tasks than random real-world workflows.
Geekbench…. by far one of the worst synthetic tools you can use to compare. I find it interesting there are no leaks using proper benchmarks...….
Ryzens have an absurdly long branch prediction history that make them appear to have better repetitive tasks than random real-world workflows.
Geekbench…. by far one of the worst synthetic tools you can use to compare. I find it interesting there are no leaks using proper benchmarks...….
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Why buy a 3800X then? I mean you can get a x470 no problems, but what's the point, if i buy a new system for example, i'd like to have the best and newest hardware at that point.
3700X is of better value. But people buy depending on their budget. That's why notion of paying extra $50~100 makes little sense for comparable products.
If one can save that on one component, it can be investment towards something that yields higher value per $. (Like GPU, M.2, or memory in case of productivity system.)