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AMD Ryzen 5000 ZEN3 CPU prices spotted in EU webshops
It's not exactly a secret what the USD prices are for the new Ryzen 5000 series, as AMD announced these. But in the U it's always a little wait and tell what the final prices will be due to VAT and well, price hikes of etailers.
The first etailers are now listing the new processors, sone in the UK, one in Finland, Netherlands, and also a Portuguese etailer. And yeah, it's too soon to tell as etailers really like to jack up process closer to release dates in order to maximize their profit.
| CPU | Cores / Threads | Clock speed/turbo (GHz) | Cache (total) | PCIe lanes CPU+x570 chiplet) |
MSRP |
| Series 5000 | |||||
| Ryzen 9 5950X | 16/32 | 3.4 / 4.9 | 72MB | tba | $799 |
| Ryzen 9 5900X | 12/24 | 3.7 / 4.8 | 70MB | tba | $549 |
| Ryzen 7 5800X | 8/16 | 3.8 / 4.7 | 36MB | tba | $449 |
| Ryzen 5 5600X | 6/12 | 3.7 / 4.5 | 35MB | tba |
$299 |
The Ryzen 9 5950X is listed at a starting price of 830 euros. The rest of the chips differ in price from both the regular predecessors and the XT variants introduced slightly later. The 5600X, 5800X, 5900X, and 5950X are listed at several webshops. My colleagues at HWI posted a nice overview, have a peek:
| AMD Ryzen 5000 processors based on Zen 3 (Vermeer) | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| CPU | Cores / Threads | base clock speed | boost clock speed | TDP | euro price (Finnish) | euro price (Portuguese) | euro price (Netherlands) |
| Ryzen 9 5950X | 16/32 | 3.4 GHz | 4.9 GHz | 105 watts | € 849.00 | € 830.00 | € 1190.00 |
| Ryzen 9 5900X | 12/24 | 3.7 GHz | 4.8 GHz | 105 watts | € 579.00 | € 570.00 | € 804.00 |
| Ryzen 7 5800X | 8/16 | 3.8 GHz | 4.7 GHz | 105 watts | € 479.00 | € 470.00 | € 660.00 |
| Ryzen 5 5600X | 6/12 | 3.7 GHz | 4.6 GHz | 65 watts | € 319.00 | € 313.00 | € 442.00 |
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#5841606 Posted on: 10/11/2020 11:34 PM
Way above msrp in Poland. What a joke
Way above msrp in Poland. What a joke
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#5841613 Posted on: 10/12/2020 12:02 AM
Well, why someone would buy a CPU if he/she doesn't need it?
Maybe because they can throw money at it and dont care about it lol
EDIT: Anyway... the price gap from 5800 to 5900 is not that big, for a 100€ more i am seriously thinking about going with the 5900 and i dont need 12 cores.
Well, why someone would buy a CPU if he/she doesn't need it?
Maybe because they can throw money at it and dont care about it lol
EDIT: Anyway... the price gap from 5800 to 5900 is not that big, for a 100€ more i am seriously thinking about going with the 5900 and i dont need 12 cores.
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#5841641 Posted on: 10/12/2020 04:19 AM
Was hoping the 5000 series would push the 3000 series prices down, but this does not look like that would be the case.
Hopefully these prices are just temporary higher then normal to grab all the "first" buyers during the high demand, low stock launch period.
AMD almost always has discounts eventually. Sometimes within a matter of months of release. I'm sure AMD knows demand is high and they just intend to maximize profit off their hardcore fans first, then tone things down a notch for everyone else.
I'm not going to expect prices better than the 3000 series any time soon, not unless Intel comes up with a compelling response. Part of the reason AMD is charging this much is most likely because they have the top product.
Whereas the US does not include sales tax in any of their pricing on any website ever, partially due to the fact that every state is different (some don't have sales tax but have income tax and pay their taxes on what they buy even if they don't spend money on a taxable item) and there's zero laws requiring that information on the products themselves, you get that information on checkout.
Haha I should introduce you to my home of New Hampshire. No sales tax or income tax (except on dividends). NH actually lacks a lot of taxes, and makes up for it in property tax and tolls.
Something I'm surprised you didn't mention is how some items are taxable while others aren't. For example I used to live in Massachusetts, and they had a separate tax for owning a car, buying alcohol, and buying tobacco products. Surprisingly, they consider soda and candy to be groceries, which isn't taxed. I know there are some places that do tax those.
All the minute details complicate the sale of a product, and can turn off buyers. The state and the store reaps the benefits when all the hidden costs are added at the checkout.
Was hoping the 5000 series would push the 3000 series prices down, but this does not look like that would be the case.
Hopefully these prices are just temporary higher then normal to grab all the "first" buyers during the high demand, low stock launch period.
AMD almost always has discounts eventually. Sometimes within a matter of months of release. I'm sure AMD knows demand is high and they just intend to maximize profit off their hardcore fans first, then tone things down a notch for everyone else.
I'm not going to expect prices better than the 3000 series any time soon, not unless Intel comes up with a compelling response. Part of the reason AMD is charging this much is most likely because they have the top product.
Whereas the US does not include sales tax in any of their pricing on any website ever, partially due to the fact that every state is different (some don't have sales tax but have income tax and pay their taxes on what they buy even if they don't spend money on a taxable item) and there's zero laws requiring that information on the products themselves, you get that information on checkout.
Haha I should introduce you to my home of New Hampshire. No sales tax or income tax (except on dividends). NH actually lacks a lot of taxes, and makes up for it in property tax and tolls.
Something I'm surprised you didn't mention is how some items are taxable while others aren't. For example I used to live in Massachusetts, and they had a separate tax for owning a car, buying alcohol, and buying tobacco products. Surprisingly, they consider soda and candy to be groceries, which isn't taxed. I know there are some places that do tax those.
All the minute details complicate the sale of a product, and can turn off buyers. The state and the store reaps the benefits when all the hidden costs are added at the checkout.
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#5841643 Posted on: 10/12/2020 04:45 AM
Haha I should introduce you to my home of New Hampshire.
Alaska has no sales or income tax either, however, some cities do.
Didn't know there were any states that disallowed cities to have their own sales tax, which looking it up is what new hampshire did.
If i lived in anchorage alaska for instance though i'd have no sales or income taxes, from the state/city anyways lol
Something I'm surprised you didn't mention is how some items are taxable while others aren't.
Yeah there's a lot of stuff that can be said about this. Different tax rates on different items, some items don't get taxed, all variable depending on what state and possibly even city you live in.
It's one of the things i have discussed with a few people about income tax vs sales tax. Living in washington with a 9-10% sales tax vs Montana with around (depending on how much you make_ 4-5% income tax, people often say "see, that's less!" but people don't take into consideration it's often no tax on food, depending on the food, or things like rent, whereas, income tax is affectively on all everything you spend money on, including rent, etc.
Did the calculations once, i definitely paid far more taxes in montana then i did in washington, so if i ever moved to another state, i'd honestly hope it's a sales tax compared to income anyways lol
All the minute details complicate the sale of a product, and can turn off buyers. The state and the store reaps the benefits when all the hidden costs are added at the checkout.
It may sound like penny pinching but it also does another thing:
Random examples so, know it's not from something specific.
If something said it cost 31.50 and that included taxes, then two of that would cost $63 with taxes, no matter what the % is supposed to be, due to the fact that's what the advertised easy to see price is per item with tax
Whereas something that is 29.99, but is $31.50 with tax, is not necessarily going to be $63 if you buy two, it could be $63.01. Working retail in the past i have seen this multiple times. My best guess is either the POS system calculated something like 31.505 as the price for one, and therefore two would be $63.01, or it simply calculates taxes completely at the end.
Similar to the whole 9/10th pricing on gas in places
Technically...it is more accurate this way, but yeah lol
Haha I should introduce you to my home of New Hampshire.
Alaska has no sales or income tax either, however, some cities do.
Didn't know there were any states that disallowed cities to have their own sales tax, which looking it up is what new hampshire did.
If i lived in anchorage alaska for instance though i'd have no sales or income taxes, from the state/city anyways lol
Something I'm surprised you didn't mention is how some items are taxable while others aren't.
Yeah there's a lot of stuff that can be said about this. Different tax rates on different items, some items don't get taxed, all variable depending on what state and possibly even city you live in.
It's one of the things i have discussed with a few people about income tax vs sales tax. Living in washington with a 9-10% sales tax vs Montana with around (depending on how much you make_ 4-5% income tax, people often say "see, that's less!" but people don't take into consideration it's often no tax on food, depending on the food, or things like rent, whereas, income tax is affectively on all everything you spend money on, including rent, etc.
Did the calculations once, i definitely paid far more taxes in montana then i did in washington, so if i ever moved to another state, i'd honestly hope it's a sales tax compared to income anyways lol
All the minute details complicate the sale of a product, and can turn off buyers. The state and the store reaps the benefits when all the hidden costs are added at the checkout.
It may sound like penny pinching but it also does another thing:
Random examples so, know it's not from something specific.
If something said it cost 31.50 and that included taxes, then two of that would cost $63 with taxes, no matter what the % is supposed to be, due to the fact that's what the advertised easy to see price is per item with tax
Whereas something that is 29.99, but is $31.50 with tax, is not necessarily going to be $63 if you buy two, it could be $63.01. Working retail in the past i have seen this multiple times. My best guess is either the POS system calculated something like 31.505 as the price for one, and therefore two would be $63.01, or it simply calculates taxes completely at the end.
Similar to the whole 9/10th pricing on gas in places
Technically...it is more accurate this way, but yeah lol
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Actually, the Portugese prices are nearly in sync with the US MSRP prices and the included VAT. If I'm right, VAT is 23% in Portugal.
5600X: 300 $ + 23% VAT= 369 $ ~ 313 EUR
5800X 400 $ + 23% VAT = 492 $ ~417 EUR
5900X: 550 $ + 23% VAT = 676,5 $ ~ 573 EUR
5950X: 800 $ + 23% VAT = 984 $ ~ 834 EUR
Only the 5800X is significantly more (470 instead of 417), but the 5600X is exactly the same, and the 5900X and 5950X are even 3-4 EURs cheaper. But those Dutch prices... what the heck? They can't be real, more like placeholders.
Well, why someone would buy a CPU if he/she doesn't need it?