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AMD Ryzen 5 3500 spotted: Six Cores but no SMT (updated)
From the looks of things, AMD is to complement its Ryzen 3000 line-up with another six-core. The Ryzen 5 3500 is running 3.6 GHz for a base clock with a 4.1 Ghz Turbo, it, however, lacks Hyperthreading (SMT) and thus is a six-thread processor.
AMD's Ryzen 3000 processors have been making news offering high performance and value for money. The R5 3600's little sister. With 3.6 GHz, it offers an identical base clock as its little sister, but it does not get SMT. In boost mode, it also 'only' reaches 4.1 GHz. In terms of price, the new CPU should rank in a price range of roughly 150 to 200 euros as the R5 3600 is offered for ~210 euros, (already available at online retailers under 200 euros).
Update September 25th, 2019 - the processor has once again surfaced, this time in an Asian store. The Ryzen 5 3500X again was listed at a maximum clock speed of 4.1 GHz. The CPU is in the store for 1099 yuan, converted around 140 euros. On the Vietnam AMD red team fan club a photo appeared as well.
| Processor | Cores/Threads | Clock speed/turbo (GHz) | Cache (total) | TDP |
| Ryzen 9 3950X | 16/32 | 3.5 / 4.7 | 72MB | 105W |
| Ryzen 9 3900X | 12/24 | 3.8 / 4.6 | 70MB | 105W |
| Ryzen 7 3800X | 8/16 | 3.9 / 4.5 | 36MB | 105W |
| Ryzen 7 3700X | 8/16 | 3.6 / 4.4 | 36MB | 65W |
| Ryzen 5 3600X | 6/12 | 3.8 / 4.4 | 35MB | 95W |
| Ryzen 5 3600 | 6/12 | 3.6 / 4.2 | 35MB | 65W |
| Ryzen 5 3500X | 6/6 | 3.6 / 4.1 | 32MB | tba |
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#5714547 Posted on: 09/26/2019 01:33 AM
Hyperthreading and symmetric multithreading are not exactly the same thing. This chip will still do SMT even with hyperthreading disabled because it has six cores so it can run six threads simultaneously and that is SMT. Hyperthreading is one specific form of SMT that refers to running multiple threads on the same core simultaneously.
The bottom line is SMT is not disabled on this chip, hyperthreading is disabled.
Hyperthreading and symmetric multithreading are not exactly the same thing. This chip will still do SMT even with hyperthreading disabled because it has six cores so it can run six threads simultaneously and that is SMT. Hyperthreading is one specific form of SMT that refers to running multiple threads on the same core simultaneously.
The bottom line is SMT is not disabled on this chip, hyperthreading is disabled.
#5714551 Posted on: 09/26/2019 02:42 AM
Hyperthreading and symmetric multithreading are not exactly the same thing. This chip will still do SMT even with hyperthreading disabled because it has six cores so it can run six threads simultaneously and that is SMT. Hyperthreading is one specific form of SMT that refers to running multiple threads on the same core simultaneously.
The bottom line is SMT is not disabled on this chip, hyperthreading is disabled.
Uh what? SMT (Simultaneous multithreading) and Hyperthreading are the same thing. Just having multiple threads doesn't make it SMT enabled.
Hyperthreading and symmetric multithreading are not exactly the same thing. This chip will still do SMT even with hyperthreading disabled because it has six cores so it can run six threads simultaneously and that is SMT. Hyperthreading is one specific form of SMT that refers to running multiple threads on the same core simultaneously.
The bottom line is SMT is not disabled on this chip, hyperthreading is disabled.
Uh what? SMT (Simultaneous multithreading) and Hyperthreading are the same thing. Just having multiple threads doesn't make it SMT enabled.
#5714555 Posted on: 09/26/2019 03:45 AM
Hyperthreading and symmetric multithreading are not exactly the same thing. This chip will still do SMT even with hyperthreading disabled because it has six cores so it can run six threads simultaneously and that is SMT. Hyperthreading is one specific form of SMT that refers to running multiple threads on the same core simultaneously.
The bottom line is SMT is not disabled on this chip, hyperthreading is disabled.
The term "HyperThreading" is trademarked by Intel. HyperThreading is nothing but a marketing name given to Intel's SMT implementation.
SMT or Simultaneous Multi-Threading refers to the ability of a processor core to execute multiple threads, simultaneously.
You're confusing SMT (Simultaneous Multi-Threading) and SMP (Simultaneous Multi-Processing).
In the case of the Ryzen 5 3500 and 3500X, SMT is disabled (since each core can only execute a single thread)....SMP is not.
Hyperthreading and symmetric multithreading are not exactly the same thing. This chip will still do SMT even with hyperthreading disabled because it has six cores so it can run six threads simultaneously and that is SMT. Hyperthreading is one specific form of SMT that refers to running multiple threads on the same core simultaneously.
The bottom line is SMT is not disabled on this chip, hyperthreading is disabled.
The term "HyperThreading" is trademarked by Intel. HyperThreading is nothing but a marketing name given to Intel's SMT implementation.
SMT or Simultaneous Multi-Threading refers to the ability of a processor core to execute multiple threads, simultaneously.
You're confusing SMT (Simultaneous Multi-Threading) and SMP (Simultaneous Multi-Processing).
In the case of the Ryzen 5 3500 and 3500X, SMT is disabled (since each core can only execute a single thread)....SMP is not.
#5714875 Posted on: 09/27/2019 03:14 AM
Thanks for correcting my brain fart guys.
I have never seen the term SMT used and somehow thought it was SMP.
Thanks for correcting my brain fart guys.
I have never seen the term SMT used and somehow thought it was SMP.
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Yeah to get 5.0Ghz he will need a D15s or a 240mm AIO but on a Hyper 212+ or something 4.8 is very doable. If he can find a z370 prime from ASUS and some 3200 G.Skill RAM those should cost about $220 together.
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119163?Item=N82E16813119163
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232707
https://www.newegg.com/be-quiet-shadow-rock-slim-bk010/p/13C-001F-00004
Hell this will dissipate 160W for $50 thats more than enough to run the 8700k at 5.0Ghz
You also said its a delided chip, lovely. :p
He will be happy.