AMD Ryzen 5 3500 spotted: Six Cores but no SMT (updated)

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 09/25/2019 07:39 AM | source: twitter | 35 comment(s)

From the looks of things, AMD is to complement its Ryzen 3000 line-up with another six-core. The Ryzen 5 3500 is running 3.6 GHz for a base clock with a 4.1 Ghz Turbo, it, however, lacks Hyperthreading (SMT) and thus is a six-thread processor.

AMD's Ryzen 3000 processors have been making news offering high performance and value for money. The R5 3600's little sister. With 3.6 GHz, it offers an identical base clock as its little sister, but it does not get SMT. In boost mode, it also 'only' reaches 4.1 GHz. In terms of price, the new CPU should rank in a price range of roughly 150 to 200 euros as the R5 3600 is offered for ~210 euros, (already available at online retailers under 200 euros).

Update September 25th, 2019 - the processor has once again surfaced, this time in an Asian store. The Ryzen 5 3500X again was listed at a maximum clock speed of 4.1 GHz. The CPU is in the store for 1099 yuan, converted around 140 euros. On the Vietnam AMD red team fan club a photo appeared as well.

Processor	Cores/Threads	Clock speed/turbo (GHz)	Cache (total)	TDP
Ryzen 9 3950X	16/32	3.5 / 4.7	72MB	105W
Ryzen 9 3900X	12/24	3.8 / 4.6	70MB	105W
Ryzen 7 3800X	8/16	3.9 / 4.5	36MB	105W
Ryzen 7 3700X	8/16	3.6 / 4.4	36MB	65W
Ryzen 5 3600X	6/12	3.8 / 4.4	35MB	95W
Ryzen 5 3600	6/12	3.6 / 4.2	35MB	65W
Ryzen 5 3500X	6/6	3.6 / 4.1	32MB	tba

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Clanger
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#5704870 Posted on: 08/28/2019 03:27 AM

9600k will kill this thing @gaming....same with an 8600k

When you lower the core count on ryzen it no longer shines.

you have mistaken me for someone who cares.

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#5704872 Posted on: 08/28/2019 03:30 AM

you have mistaken me for someone who cares.

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#5704888 Posted on: 08/28/2019 05:09 AM

Seems that having SMT off gives more fps in a lot of games :p
Looks like 2~10% fps difference. So, disabling SMT puts those chips on intel's performance spot since their numbers indicate such difference.
Seems like scheduling sometimes puts second load on core that can't immediately be executed.

May be solved by windows in time or by Zen 3 since that is likely to have SMT4 on servers and therefore desktops with SMT2 enabled will benefit from architecture that has enough improvements to extract something meaningful from SMT4.

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#5704901 Posted on: 08/28/2019 06:22 AM

9600k will kill this thing @gaming....same with an 8600k

When you lower the core count on ryzen it no longer shines.

9600k costs more than 3600. There ia no real value there.

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#5714297 Posted on: 09/25/2019 08:50 AM

Wouldn't it be interesting to compare this new six-core with the old Phenom II 1100T paired with 1600 MHz DDR3 memory and a 2400 to 2600 MHz northbridge overclock on a Asus Crosshair V or an Asus Sabertooth 990FX based board to see how times has changed?

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#5714307 Posted on: 09/25/2019 09:53 AM

9600k will kill this thing @gaming....same with an 8600k

When you lower the core count on ryzen it no longer shines.

When You lower the core speed on Intel it no longer shines....

So? Every company has it's own aproach.

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#5714372 Posted on: 09/25/2019 01:40 PM

9600k will kill this thing @gaming....same with an 8600k

When you lower the core count on ryzen it no longer shines.
IPC for Zen 2 definitely has increased. On top of that, games that only take advantage of 6 cores this will have no problem.

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#5714373 Posted on: 09/25/2019 01:44 PM

Even the i5 9400f is more expensive than this. People forget the pricing is the key here.

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#5714374 Posted on: 09/25/2019 01:44 PM

IPC for Zen 2 definitely has increased. On top of that, games that only take advantage of 6 cores this will have no problem.

yea^...I'm trying/ gonna get a used 8700k from a fellow member at a good price...I should be set for a few years no?

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#5714375 Posted on: 09/25/2019 01:47 PM

yea^...I'm trying/ gonna get a used 8700k from a fellow member at a good price...I should be set for a few years no?

You'd have no issues going Coffee Lake or Zen 2 for a few good years.

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#5714377 Posted on: 09/25/2019 01:53 PM

yea^...I'm trying/ gonna get a used 8700k from a fellow member at a good price...I should be set for a few years no?

I saw that @Loophole35 was selling it at the great price but you'll need expensive motherboard and good cooling if you want those clocks he was running it. You have a chance here for the even lower price get a brand new 3600X where you dont need WC and Z board. Think twice before you act.

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#5714378 Posted on: 09/25/2019 01:59 PM

You'd have no issues going Coffee Lake or Zen 2 for a few good years.

for some reason I want his 8700k....he gave me a nice z mobo and 16Gb of ram a few years ago to go with a 2600k that I got from another member and damn thing is flawless I tell ya....boots every time...good quality stuff.

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#5714380 Posted on: 09/25/2019 02:06 PM

He was the one? I though @sykozis gaved you the 2600k.

Edit : Nwm i got it

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#5714384 Posted on: 09/25/2019 02:18 PM

He was the one? I though @sykozis gaved you the 2600k.

Edit : Nwm i got it

yea, I got the 2600k from sykozis to replace an i3 back then when I had a cheap mobo and Loop sent me the z68 mobo with 16Gb of Corsair Ram......I am currently typing on it now...good stuff/ Great people...
Proud member here for sure...I love this place.

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#5714395 Posted on: 09/25/2019 03:13 PM

Yeah to get 5.0Ghz he will need a D15s or a 240mm AIO but on a Hyper 212+ or something 4.8 is very doable. If he can find a z370 prime from ASUS and some 3200 G.Skill RAM those should cost about $220 together.
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813119163?Item=N82E16813119163
https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232707

https://www.newegg.com/be-quiet-shadow-rock-slim-bk010/p/13C-001F-00004
Hell this will dissipate 160W for $50 thats more than enough to run the 8700k at 5.0Ghz

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