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AMD Ryzen 5 3500 and multiple Pro models Coming
AMD will be releasing a Ryzern 5 3500 as well as Ryzen Pro variants of the Ryzen 5 3600, Ryzen 7 3700 and Ryzen 9 3900. A Eurasian registration database points that out.
It is not the first time that products are spotted there, it is a mandatory step to register products for import in several countries. The procs all have been listed at 65W TDP including the Ryzen 9 Pro 3900 with twelve cores. The database lists the model numbers, the number of cores and the tdp.
The Ryzen 5 3500 has six cores and a 65W TDP. This is probably a cheaper model with lower clock speed. It is not yet known when AMD will release the processors.
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#5695217 Posted on: 07/29/2019 08:00 PM
These CPU's will have SMT and are mostly the same as their non pro counterparts. Pro models in the past where available much longer and where basically non consumer versions meant for OEM's and enterprise solutions. It could have functions just like Intels Vpro (remote management, longer warranty etc).
I assume the 3500 won't have SMT? Because it doesn't make sense why they'd release 3 different 6c/12t CPUs with unlocked multipliers. Unlike Intel, AMD isn't dominating the OEM market, so I can't imagine that's the market they're targeting.
These CPU's will have SMT and are mostly the same as their non pro counterparts. Pro models in the past where available much longer and where basically non consumer versions meant for OEM's and enterprise solutions. It could have functions just like Intels Vpro (remote management, longer warranty etc).
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#5695218 Posted on: 07/29/2019 08:01 PM
I was talking about the 3500, not the Pro models. I would expect the 3600 Pro to have 6c/12t.
These CPU's will have SMT and are mostly the same as their non pro counterparts. Pro models in the past where available much longer and where basically non consumer versions meant for OEM's and enterprise solutions. It could have functions just like Intels Vpro (remote management, longer warranty etc).
I was talking about the 3500, not the Pro models. I would expect the 3600 Pro to have 6c/12t.
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#5695224 Posted on: 07/29/2019 08:12 PM
Ah my bad. The pro models will probably have a bit higher margin compared to the non Pro's because increased warranty and they have to keep production going on for longer.
I was talking about the 3500, not the Pro models. I would expect the 3600 Pro to have 6c/12t.
Ah my bad. The pro models will probably have a bit higher margin compared to the non Pro's because increased warranty and they have to keep production going on for longer.
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#5695233 Posted on: 07/29/2019 08:51 PM
It would be more sense to make a 4c/8t 3500 and price at 100$ range.
It would be more sense to make a 4c/8t 3500 and price at 100$ range.
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#5695291 Posted on: 07/30/2019 02:52 AM
Kinda obvious, but it bears reiterating (an oddly tautological word) that binning is a big part of amd strategy.
~nothing goes to waste, but all pay fair value for lower bins.
Their sku/price list is a juggling act to balance supply and demand for the various bin levels.
e.g. huge demand for epyc chips is no good w/o corresponding good sales of 3600 e.g. to use the inevitable lower binned CCXs.
point being, they dont HAVE to gimp smt to differentiate, but no doubt they will
Kinda obvious, but it bears reiterating (an oddly tautological word) that binning is a big part of amd strategy.
~nothing goes to waste, but all pay fair value for lower bins.
Their sku/price list is a juggling act to balance supply and demand for the various bin levels.
e.g. huge demand for epyc chips is no good w/o corresponding good sales of 3600 e.g. to use the inevitable lower binned CCXs.
point being, they dont HAVE to gimp smt to differentiate, but no doubt they will
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#5695571 Posted on: 07/30/2019 07:16 PM
well manual OC seems to be dead with zen 2, 3600x just includes a better cooler which allows it to perform marginally better, so im guessing the 3500 will have an even worse cooler
its funny how AMD came to the rescue with cheap unlocked CPUs, but now made it a moot point considering they all behave the same leaving almost 0 headroom for manual overclocking, so if you already have a good cooling solution, you get the cheapest model ignoring whatever advertised clocks they have, and it will run the same as the top end model
i very much prefer things to go this way rather than what scummy intel did after sandy
well manual OC seems to be dead with zen 2, 3600x just includes a better cooler which allows it to perform marginally better, so im guessing the 3500 will have an even worse cooler
its funny how AMD came to the rescue with cheap unlocked CPUs, but now made it a moot point considering they all behave the same leaving almost 0 headroom for manual overclocking, so if you already have a good cooling solution, you get the cheapest model ignoring whatever advertised clocks they have, and it will run the same as the top end model
i very much prefer things to go this way rather than what scummy intel did after sandy
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I assume the 3500 won't have SMT? Because it doesn't make sense why they'd release 3 different 6c/12t CPUs with unlocked multipliers. Unlike Intel, AMD isn't dominating the OEM market, so I can't imagine that's the market they're targeting. I'm guessing this would be another $50 cheaper over the 3600, which is already the more obvious choice over the 3600X in most cases. So, if this is 6c/12t, most of the people who would buy this are basically just saving themselves ~$100 over the 3600X for similar OC results. Of course, not everyone will OC, but I guess my point is custom PC builders are the most likely to get this CPU and many will probably pick this over the higher-end models, so AMD is basically just limiting their income.
But, without SMT, I think this would be a more interesting product.