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Guru3D Rig of the Month - December 2019
AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Desktop Processor Spotted on ASUS Crosshair VII HERO Mobo
Interesting, you have to love result databases. The the first 'optimized' Ryzen, Ryzen 2 processor has hit the SiSoft Sandra database. The entry shows a processor called Ryzen 5 2600, which obviously is Zen+, the model listed is a six-core twelve threaded processor
The entry within the SiSoft database is:
- ZD2600BBM68AF_38/34_Y (6C 12T 3.4GHz, 1.1GHz IMC, 6x 512kB L2, 2x 8MB L3).
And yes you can deduct anything and pretty much everything from that, including the a 3.4 GHz base clock and a 3.8 GHz turbo. Have a look at the screenshot below:
What's also interesting is the motherboard listed, it is an ASUS ROG CROSSHAIR VII HERO (WI-FI) running on Windows 10, that would be an X470 Motherboard alright.
Recent announcements indicate a launch for the new platform and revision 2 processors as early as April. If we table things up and compare a bit, this would be the differences. It seems AMD is capable of achieving slightly higher clocks alright.
| Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 1600 | AMD Ryzen 5 2600 |
|---|---|---|
| Architecture | 14nm Zen | 12nm Zen+ |
| Cores | 6 | 6 |
| Threads | 12 | 12 |
| Cache | 19 MB (L2+L3) | 19 MB (L2+L3) |
| Base Clock | 3.2 GHz | 3.4 GHz |
| Boost Clock | 3.6 GHz | 3.8 GHz |
| TDP | 65W | 65W |
| Release | Q2 2017 | Q2 2018 |
Judging from just this processor, AMD is able to achieve at least 200 MHz more out of the optimized 12nm production nodes. Thanks go out to Poul Olsen from Denmark for this spot.
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#5512001 Posted on: 01/18/2018 04:09 PM
Seems to be about 15% faster than an R5 1600?
http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_run.php?q=c2ffcee889e8d5e3dbedd4e3dafc8eb383a5c0a598a88efdc0f1&l=en
I'll admit I expected more since we're also talking about a 6% clock speed increase.
Keep in mind, a lot of the memory bandwidth is now divided for the IGP too, so who knows if Ryzen 2 cores are actually slightly faster than 15%. Regardless, I'd say a roughly ~10% IPC improvement is acceptable for something where we knew there were no major architectural changes. The Ryzen 2000 series is likely just a series of bugfixes from the first generation (some of the first models produced had some pretty serious hardware bugs) and a few micro-optimizations here and there. As I've mentioned in other posts, if the Ryzen 2000 series is better at overclocking, that's what will really keep people's interest.
Seems to be about 15% faster than an R5 1600?
http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_run.php?q=c2ffcee889e8d5e3dbedd4e3dafc8eb383a5c0a598a88efdc0f1&l=en
I'll admit I expected more since we're also talking about a 6% clock speed increase.
Keep in mind, a lot of the memory bandwidth is now divided for the IGP too, so who knows if Ryzen 2 cores are actually slightly faster than 15%. Regardless, I'd say a roughly ~10% IPC improvement is acceptable for something where we knew there were no major architectural changes. The Ryzen 2000 series is likely just a series of bugfixes from the first generation (some of the first models produced had some pretty serious hardware bugs) and a few micro-optimizations here and there. As I've mentioned in other posts, if the Ryzen 2000 series is better at overclocking, that's what will really keep people's interest.
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#5512003 Posted on: 01/18/2018 04:12 PM
Just 6% ??? C'mon AMD... daf*k is this?
Dear God... I've waited a billion years for the Ryzen refresh, I still have to wait... and it's just 6%.
At least the X470 platform I hope will be better for PCI-e & Memory... I hope!
Just 6% ??? C'mon AMD... daf*k is this?
Dear God... I've waited a billion years for the Ryzen refresh, I still have to wait... and it's just 6%.
At least the X470 platform I hope will be better for PCI-e & Memory... I hope!
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#5512004 Posted on: 01/18/2018 04:12 PM
I5 8500 seems faster and a better option already. I expected better performance from Zen's optimized refresh line-up tbh.
I5 8500 seems faster and a better option already. I expected better performance from Zen's optimized refresh line-up tbh.
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#5512007 Posted on: 01/18/2018 04:14 PM
Just 6% ??? C'mon AMD... daf*k is this?
Dear God... I've waited a billion years for the Ryzen refresh, I still have to wait... and it's just 6%.
At least the X470 platform I hope will be better for PCI-e & Memory... I hope!
It's a 6% clock speed increase... What difference does that make if you're getting an X series motherboard?
Just 6% ??? C'mon AMD... daf*k is this?
Dear God... I've waited a billion years for the Ryzen refresh, I still have to wait... and it's just 6%.
At least the X470 platform I hope will be better for PCI-e & Memory... I hope!
It's a 6% clock speed increase... What difference does that make if you're getting an X series motherboard?
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#5512008 Posted on: 01/18/2018 04:30 PM
keep in mind, the chip could still be an engineering sample. ;-)
keep in mind, the chip could still be an engineering sample. ;-)
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#5512009 Posted on: 01/18/2018 04:30 PM
I know it's clock speed. I was expecting at least a 10% increase. C'mon... you're reducing the fab-process, and you're updating known / initial release issues... I was expecting a 2800X to reach 4.5+ GHz. At 4.24 GHz it seems a no-upgrade kind of difference, cause IPC will be an insignificant factor.
It's a 6% clock speed increase... What difference does that make if you're getting an X series motherboard?
I know it's clock speed. I was expecting at least a 10% increase. C'mon... you're reducing the fab-process, and you're updating known / initial release issues... I was expecting a 2800X to reach 4.5+ GHz. At 4.24 GHz it seems a no-upgrade kind of difference, cause IPC will be an insignificant factor.
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#5512010 Posted on: 01/18/2018 04:30 PM
So this would make the 2600X 3.8GHz, 4.2GHz turbo (4.3GHz with XFR?), hypothetically at least. If it overclocks better could we see 4.4/4.5GHz? A 10 - 15% performance improvement from a 6% clock speed increase isn't to shabby these days anyway.
So this would make the 2600X 3.8GHz, 4.2GHz turbo (4.3GHz with XFR?), hypothetically at least. If it overclocks better could we see 4.4/4.5GHz? A 10 - 15% performance improvement from a 6% clock speed increase isn't to shabby these days anyway.
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#5512011 Posted on: 01/18/2018 04:33 PM
I still don't see what there is to complain about. Clock speed is irrelevant on an unlocked CPU, especially if there's an IPC improvement. It's also the non-X version.
I know it's clock speed. I was expecting at least a 10% increase. C'mon... you're reducing the fab-process, and you're updating known / initial release issues... I was expecting a 2800X to reach 4.5+ GHz. At 4.24 GHz it seems a no-upgrade kind of difference, cause IPC will be an insignificant factor.
I still don't see what there is to complain about. Clock speed is irrelevant on an unlocked CPU, especially if there's an IPC improvement. It's also the non-X version.
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#5512012 Posted on: 01/18/2018 04:33 PM
Could be... but so close to release, I'm guessing they already have plenty of wafers cooked. It's unlikely they'll tweak something in the last few months before launch...
keep in mind, the chip could still be an engineering sample. ;-)
Could be... but so close to release, I'm guessing they already have plenty of wafers cooked. It's unlikely they'll tweak something in the last few months before launch...
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#5512014 Posted on: 01/18/2018 04:35 PM
Yeah... we'll see. I was stating that clock has everything to do with it, while IPC will be an insignificant increase.
We're debating over things too far from our grasp. I'm still hoping for better clock speeds at the high end.
I still don't see what there is to complain about. Clock speed is irrelevant on an unlocked CPU, especially if there's an IPC improvement. It's also the non-X version.
Yeah... we'll see. I was stating that clock has everything to do with it, while IPC will be an insignificant increase.
We're debating over things too far from our grasp. I'm still hoping for better clock speeds at the high end.
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#5512017 Posted on: 01/18/2018 04:43 PM
AMD is also looking for more power efficiency, can't have dramatic improvements in both without major changes. This looks good. Interested in power use too.
AMD is also looking for more power efficiency, can't have dramatic improvements in both without major changes. This looks good. Interested in power use too.
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#5512026 Posted on: 01/18/2018 05:07 PM
I have no idea why people are looking at "BASE CLOCK INCREASE PERCENTAGE". Useless numbers. Amd are doing the same as Intel - increasing base clock by 200mhz from previous generation (i5-6500 3200mhz, i5-7500 3400mhz).
What is really important is how much it overclocks. Base speed doesn't really matter.
I know it's clock speed. I was expecting at least a 10% increase. C'mon... you're reducing the fab-process, and you're updating known / initial release issues... I was expecting a 2800X to reach 4.5+ GHz. At 4.24 GHz it seems a no-upgrade kind of difference, cause IPC will be an insignificant factor.
I have no idea why people are looking at "BASE CLOCK INCREASE PERCENTAGE". Useless numbers. Amd are doing the same as Intel - increasing base clock by 200mhz from previous generation (i5-6500 3200mhz, i5-7500 3400mhz).
What is really important is how much it overclocks. Base speed doesn't really matter.
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#5512032 Posted on: 01/18/2018 05:25 PM
I have no idea why people are looking at "BASE CLOCK INCREASE PERCENTAGE". Useless numbers. Amd are doing the same as Intel - increasing base clock by 200mhz from previous generation (i5-6500 3200mhz, i5-7500 3400mhz).
What is really important is how much it overclocks. Base speed doesn't really matter.
It's because not all people overclock their CPU.
I often like to leave things the way they were intended to be used, just because it gives me a 'stock/guarantee' kind of reassurance. Weird, huh?
I have no idea why people are looking at "BASE CLOCK INCREASE PERCENTAGE". Useless numbers. Amd are doing the same as Intel - increasing base clock by 200mhz from previous generation (i5-6500 3200mhz, i5-7500 3400mhz).
What is really important is how much it overclocks. Base speed doesn't really matter.
It's because not all people overclock their CPU.
I often like to leave things the way they were intended to be used, just because it gives me a 'stock/guarantee' kind of reassurance. Weird, huh?
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#5512033 Posted on: 01/18/2018 05:28 PM
Assumption, but most likely they will Clock much better, hence 4,5ghz under OC potentially can be reached. Time will tell!
Assumption, but most likely they will Clock much better, hence 4,5ghz under OC potentially can be reached. Time will tell!
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Seems to be about 15% faster than an R5 1600?
http://ranker.sisoftware.net/show_run.php?q=c2ffcee889e8d5e3dbedd4e3dafc8eb383a5c0a598a88efdc0f1&l=en
I'll admit I expected more since we're also talking about a 6% clock speed increase.