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AMD Ryzen 3 and Ryzen 5 Raven Ridge Packaging Spotted
You can check out the grabs of AMD Ryzen 3 2200G and Ryzen 5 2400G "Raven Ridge" desktop APU retail packaging. Yes, AMD is on track with these alright. The processor in box packages would include the upcoming APU which is paired with an AMD Wraith Stealth cooler.
The packaging is different with visually integrated a "AMD Radeon Vega Graphics" logo.
The product namkes will be long alright:
- AMD Ryzen 3 2200G with Radeon Vega 8 graphics
- AMD Ryzen 5 2400G with Radeon Vega 11 graphics.
The Ryzen 3 2200G is expected to be priced (MSRP) at the USD $99.99 marker and Ryzen 5 2400G at $169.99; both APUs are now said to launch in the retail channel on the 12th of February.
AMD has announced the specifications of two of these APU's: the Ryzen 3 2200G and the Ryzen 5 2400G series. What is interesting to see straight of the bat is that default memory speeds have been bumped upwards to up to 2933 MHz.
Since the APUs graphics engine makes use of that DDR4 memory, this is a clever move, reports computer base. As all AM4 platforms are currently being prepared with Raven Ridge BIOS updates and thus the Ryzen 2000 CPUs as well, the upcoming new processors would launch alongside new X470 motherboards. The motherboard manufacturers claim support speeds of up to 4000 MHz.
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| Model | Cores / Threads | CPU clock / turbo | L2 cache | L3 cache | graphics | shaders | Max. GPU clock | Storage | CTDP | TDP | price |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ryzen 5 2400G | 4/8 | 3.6 / 3.9 GHz | 2 MB | 4 MB | Vega11 | 704 | 1,250 MHz | DDR4-2933 | 45-65 W | 65 W | $ 169 |
| Ryzen 3 2200G | 4/4 | 3.5 / 3.7 GHz | 2 MB | 4 MB | Vega8 | 512 | 1,100 MHz | DDR4-2933 | 45-65 W | 65 W | $ 99 |
| MOBILE | |||||||||||
| Ryzen 7 2700U | 4/8 | 2.2 / 3.8 GHz | 2 MB | 4 MB | Vega10 Mobile | 640 | 1,300 MHz | DDR4-2400 | 12-25 W | 15W | NA |
| Ryzen 5 2500U | 4/8 | 2.0 / 3.6 GHz | 2 MB | 4 MB | Vega8 Mobile | 512 | 1,100 MHz | DDR4-2400 | 12-25 W | 15W | NA |
| Ryzen 3 2300U | 4/4 | 2.0 / 3.4 GHz | 2 MB | 4 MB | Vega6 Mobile | 384 | 1,100 MHz | DDR4 | 12-25 W | 15W | NA |
| Ryzen 3 2200U | 2/4 | 2.5 / 3.4 GHz | 1 MB | 4 MB | Vega3 Mobile | 192 | 1,100 MHz | DDR4 | 12-25 W | 15W | NA |
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#5513321 Posted on: 01/23/2018 10:49 AM
I am looking forward to the first reviews to see its performance and if it is good to mount one with an itx board.
I am looking forward to the first reviews to see its performance and if it is good to mount one with an itx board.
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#5513333 Posted on: 01/23/2018 11:40 AM
This might be really good for a HTPC.
This might be really good for a HTPC.
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#5513358 Posted on: 01/23/2018 01:45 PM
This might be the only way that I can reasonably upgrade the video on my system....
Yeesh...
This might be the only way that I can reasonably upgrade the video on my system....
Yeesh...
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#5513369 Posted on: 01/23/2018 02:16 PM
Beautiful even on price :V
Beautiful even on price :V
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#5513370 Posted on: 01/23/2018 02:19 PM
Looks like console level 1st (XBOX One) has 768 SP at lower clocks and lower IPC
2400G gonna be really nice for HD gaming within reasonable settings.
Looks like console level 1st (XBOX One) has 768 SP at lower clocks and lower IPC
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#5513373 Posted on: 01/23/2018 02:32 PM
Graphic Vega 11 shaders 704 clock 1,250 MHz equal with ...?
Graphic Vega 11 shaders 704 clock 1,250 MHz equal with ...?
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#5513395 Posted on: 01/23/2018 03:46 PM
Somewhere around RX-550 or HD-7790. But, I saw those benchmarks from AMD where they shown performance change with faster memory.
If you want to get most of this chip, memory price is going to play big role.
Graphic Vega 11 shaders 704 clock 1,250 MHz equal with ...?
Somewhere around RX-550 or HD-7790. But, I saw those benchmarks from AMD where they shown performance change with faster memory.
If you want to get most of this chip, memory price is going to play big role.
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#5513397 Posted on: 01/23/2018 03:52 PM
Somewhere around RX-550 or HD-7790. But, I saw those benchmarks from AMD where they shown performance change with faster memory.
If you want to get most of this chip, memory price is going to play big role.
Considering you can buy an RX 550 for as much as $140 or if you're lucky, $100, honestly, I'd rather just get the APU and pricey RAM. The extra $20-$60 is very well worth having a 4c/8t CPU. Even budget RAM isn't cheap, so it doesn't really matter what you get because it'll leave a bitter taste no matter what.
Somewhere around RX-550 or HD-7790. But, I saw those benchmarks from AMD where they shown performance change with faster memory.
If you want to get most of this chip, memory price is going to play big role.
Considering you can buy an RX 550 for as much as $140 or if you're lucky, $100, honestly, I'd rather just get the APU and pricey RAM. The extra $20-$60 is very well worth having a 4c/8t CPU. Even budget RAM isn't cheap, so it doesn't really matter what you get because it'll leave a bitter taste no matter what.
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#5513401 Posted on: 01/23/2018 04:08 PM
Not saying that it is bad in any way. Just that one can have idea of buying cheap ram to cheap system.
And here RAM speed is very important.
Once next 8C/16T Ryzens are out and in my main system, I will consider 2400G/2700U/2X00H APU systems for mobile gaming. Light USB powered screens made quite some progress, so even mITX system can be put into notebook case/bag.
Considering you can buy an RX 550 for as much as $140 or if you're lucky, $100, honestly, I'd rather just get the APU and pricey RAM. The extra $20-$60 is very well worth having a 4c/8t CPU. Even budget RAM isn't cheap, so it doesn't really matter what you get because it'll leave a bitter taste no matter what.
Not saying that it is bad in any way. Just that one can have idea of buying cheap ram to cheap system.
And here RAM speed is very important.
Once next 8C/16T Ryzens are out and in my main system, I will consider 2400G/2700U/2X00H APU systems for mobile gaming. Light USB powered screens made quite some progress, so even mITX system can be put into notebook case/bag.
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#5513405 Posted on: 01/23/2018 04:20 PM
Not saying that it is bad in any way. Just that one can have idea of buying cheap ram to cheap system.
And here RAM speed is very important.
No I know - I'm agreeing with you. I'm just clarifying that you're going to pay a lot for RAM no matter what, and even low-end discrete GPUs are getting expensive, so getting this APU seems like a no-brainer in comparison.
Once next 8C/16T Ryzens are out and in my main system, I will consider 2400G/2700U/2X00H APU systems for mobile gaming. Light USB powered screens made quite some progress, so even mITX system can be put into notebook case/bag.
I've considered doing a similar approach. I personally would rather take a bare LCD panel from a junked laptop (which I have plenty of), get an LVDS controller board (they cost around $30 on ebay and aren't difficult to wire up directly to the PSU), and mount all of it to a small and rigid briefcase. Then use a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. A 250W Pico PSU ought to keep the internals tidy, too. If there's room, maybe I could fit a 12v lead acid battery inside, which the Pico PSU would accept as a direct power source.
But, I'm not sure when/if I'm going to make this, simply because I don't have a need for a modest gaming rig on-the-go.
Fun stuff to think about, though.
Not saying that it is bad in any way. Just that one can have idea of buying cheap ram to cheap system.
And here RAM speed is very important.
No I know - I'm agreeing with you. I'm just clarifying that you're going to pay a lot for RAM no matter what, and even low-end discrete GPUs are getting expensive, so getting this APU seems like a no-brainer in comparison.
Once next 8C/16T Ryzens are out and in my main system, I will consider 2400G/2700U/2X00H APU systems for mobile gaming. Light USB powered screens made quite some progress, so even mITX system can be put into notebook case/bag.
I've considered doing a similar approach. I personally would rather take a bare LCD panel from a junked laptop (which I have plenty of), get an LVDS controller board (they cost around $30 on ebay and aren't difficult to wire up directly to the PSU), and mount all of it to a small and rigid briefcase. Then use a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. A 250W Pico PSU ought to keep the internals tidy, too. If there's room, maybe I could fit a 12v lead acid battery inside, which the Pico PSU would accept as a direct power source.
But, I'm not sure when/if I'm going to make this, simply because I don't have a need for a modest gaming rig on-the-go.
Fun stuff to think about, though.
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#5513414 Posted on: 01/23/2018 04:40 PM
No I know - I'm agreeing with you. I'm just clarifying that you're going to pay a lot for RAM no matter what, and even low-end discrete GPUs are getting expensive, so getting this APU seems like a no-brainer in comparison.
I've considered doing a similar approach. I personally would rather take a bare LCD panel from a junked laptop (which I have plenty of), get an LVDS controller board (they cost around $30 on ebay and aren't difficult to wire up directly to the PSU), and mount all of it to a small and rigid briefcase. Then use a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. A 250W Pico PSU ought to keep the internals tidy, too. If there's room, maybe I could fit a 12v lead acid battery inside, which the Pico PSU would accept as a direct power source.
But, I'm not sure when/if I'm going to make this, simply because I don't have a need for a modest gaming rig on-the-go.
Fun stuff to think about, though.
I keep one notebook screen for purpose of making it into full screen if needs arises too. It is 17" 1600x900. I was originally inclined to take it fully apart and use it as transparent side panel of next PC case showing some stuff. But then, I was never into looking at PC case
So, that screen is going to be waiting for quite a while. If it had touch, I would already have it running for android emulator / android_x86.
No I know - I'm agreeing with you. I'm just clarifying that you're going to pay a lot for RAM no matter what, and even low-end discrete GPUs are getting expensive, so getting this APU seems like a no-brainer in comparison.
I've considered doing a similar approach. I personally would rather take a bare LCD panel from a junked laptop (which I have plenty of), get an LVDS controller board (they cost around $30 on ebay and aren't difficult to wire up directly to the PSU), and mount all of it to a small and rigid briefcase. Then use a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. A 250W Pico PSU ought to keep the internals tidy, too. If there's room, maybe I could fit a 12v lead acid battery inside, which the Pico PSU would accept as a direct power source.
But, I'm not sure when/if I'm going to make this, simply because I don't have a need for a modest gaming rig on-the-go.
Fun stuff to think about, though.
I keep one notebook screen for purpose of making it into full screen if needs arises too. It is 17" 1600x900. I was originally inclined to take it fully apart and use it as transparent side panel of next PC case showing some stuff. But then, I was never into looking at PC case
So, that screen is going to be waiting for quite a while. If it had touch, I would already have it running for android emulator / android_x86.
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#5513425 Posted on: 01/23/2018 04:57 PM
I keep one notebook screen for purpose of making it into full screen if needs arises too. It is 17" 1600x900. I was originally inclined to take it fully apart and use it as transparent side panel of next PC case showing some stuff. But then, I was never into looking at PC case
So, that screen is going to be waiting for quite a while. If it had touch, I would already have it running for android emulator / android_x86.
I'm not sure if you're aware, but you can buy touchscreen layers for existing non-touch LCDs. After all, no LCD panel is made with touch built-in. Due to the dimensions of your display, you're pretty much just limited to resistive touch panels:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/17-3inch-Resistive-Touch-Screen-Panel-397x232mm-4Wire-USB-kit-for-17-3-monitor/172851503336?hash=item283ec0a0e8:g:qjAAAOSwL4BZrlNo
So, it's not cheap, but it is an option.
I've considered doing the same idea of making transparent "slides", for a few reasons. Maybe some of them could inspire you:
1. To use with an overhead projector. Makes for a great ghetto home theater, I just currently don't have a place to put it (I do have the projector, though).
2. I have a mineral oil aquarium PC. I'd like to do a transparent LCD on one of the side walls to make it look like there are fish inside, while also telling me stuff like temperatures and system load. But, I don't have an LCD that's the right size and I don't care enough to buy one. So, that idea is also on hold.
3. There's also the idea of taking a mirror or a window in your home and make it "smart", where it'll tell you the weather or maybe emails, news feeds, text messages, and so on. But, I'm not "plugged-in" enough to really care about making this.
I keep one notebook screen for purpose of making it into full screen if needs arises too. It is 17" 1600x900. I was originally inclined to take it fully apart and use it as transparent side panel of next PC case showing some stuff. But then, I was never into looking at PC case
So, that screen is going to be waiting for quite a while. If it had touch, I would already have it running for android emulator / android_x86.
I'm not sure if you're aware, but you can buy touchscreen layers for existing non-touch LCDs. After all, no LCD panel is made with touch built-in. Due to the dimensions of your display, you're pretty much just limited to resistive touch panels:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/17-3inch-Resistive-Touch-Screen-Panel-397x232mm-4Wire-USB-kit-for-17-3-monitor/172851503336?hash=item283ec0a0e8:g:qjAAAOSwL4BZrlNo
So, it's not cheap, but it is an option.
I've considered doing the same idea of making transparent "slides", for a few reasons. Maybe some of them could inspire you:
1. To use with an overhead projector. Makes for a great ghetto home theater, I just currently don't have a place to put it (I do have the projector, though).
2. I have a mineral oil aquarium PC. I'd like to do a transparent LCD on one of the side walls to make it look like there are fish inside, while also telling me stuff like temperatures and system load. But, I don't have an LCD that's the right size and I don't care enough to buy one. So, that idea is also on hold.
3. There's also the idea of taking a mirror or a window in your home and make it "smart", where it'll tell you the weather or maybe emails, news feeds, text messages, and so on. But, I'm not "plugged-in" enough to really care about making this.
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#5513437 Posted on: 01/23/2018 05:22 PM
@schmidtbag : Good ideas, but I think mirror will not work very well as there is still need for backlight. Maybe, if it is see through mirror and then backlight can be put behind it as it leaks light. Or it will need sufficient ambient light to go through back and forth. (Not sure about ghost effect.)
But all those ideas will become very soon very common thanks to micro-LED technology.
@schmidtbag : Good ideas, but I think mirror will not work very well as there is still need for backlight. Maybe, if it is see through mirror and then backlight can be put behind it as it leaks light. Or it will need sufficient ambient light to go through back and forth. (Not sure about ghost effect.)
But all those ideas will become very soon very common thanks to micro-LED technology.
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#5513443 Posted on: 01/23/2018 05:32 PM
Depends on how you set it up. You primarily just want to use high-contrast emblems and text; it can't really be used for desktop use, images, or video. So for the most part you want the entire background to be white (making the LCD transparent) and then use solid colors or black for everything you want to read. Visibility isn't much of a problem when it is set up like that.
I think it may be worth clarifying that the LCD would be in front of the mirror, not behind it, something kind of like this (both sides of the glass are LCD):
When the display is placed behind the mirror then yes, you absolutely need a backlight.
@schmidtbag : Good ideas, but I think mirror will not work very well as there is still need for backlight. Maybe, if it is see through mirror and then backlight can be put behind it as it leaks light. Or it will need sufficient ambient light to go through back and forth. (Not sure about ghost effect.)
Depends on how you set it up. You primarily just want to use high-contrast emblems and text; it can't really be used for desktop use, images, or video. So for the most part you want the entire background to be white (making the LCD transparent) and then use solid colors or black for everything you want to read. Visibility isn't much of a problem when it is set up like that.
I think it may be worth clarifying that the LCD would be in front of the mirror, not behind it, something kind of like this (both sides of the glass are LCD):
When the display is placed behind the mirror then yes, you absolutely need a backlight.
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2400G gonna be really nice for HD gaming within reasonable settings.