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AMD reaffirms that the 5.5+ GHz of the Ryzen 7000 in demo was achieved without overclocking
During its presentation at Computex 2022, AMD announced (not released) its new line of Zen 4-based Ryzen 7000 processors. A demo based on a 16-core CPU running Ghostwire: Tokyo was demonstrated at speeds of 5.3 and 5.5 GHz at the event.
AMD assures users who flooded social media with comments that the chip in question was running without any type of overclocking aid. In an interview, AMD's marketing and gaming solutions executives, Robert Hallock and Frank Azor, stated that the 16-core CPU was a prototype running on an AMD reference motherboard.
The Ryzen 7000 was cooled by a 280mm AIO, allowing the processor to run at higher clock rates. They explained that the CPU was not overclocked and that the frequencies displayed are typical for the chip. Depending on the scenario, most cores will run at roughly 5.5 GHz, fluctuating between 5.2 and 5.5 GHz on all 16 cores while running Ghostwire: Tokyo. The Ryzen 7000 CPU was accompanied by two 16 GB DDR5-6000 CL30 memory.
Concerning the 170W consumption reported during the unveiling of the new processors, AMD stated that this is not the TDP of the 16-core Ryzen 7000 CPU, which consumed 125W, but rather the highest power delivery capacity of the new socket AM5 LGA 1718. This guarantees that the CPU has the driving margin to attain such high frequencies on several cores.
Despite the fact that the next generation of Ryzen processors has been disclosed, little technical information, or even the number of models, has been revealed. AMD claims double the L2 cache per core, a 15% gain in single threading, and boost speeds above 5GHz (as we've already seen). RDNA 2 graphics, DDR5, and PCIe 5.0 memory controllers will be built into the processors. The Zen 4-based cores are built on 5nm chiplets.
The first Ryzen 7000 processors should be available later this year.
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#6020622 Posted on: 05/26/2022 05:34 PM
Come on, all this marketing BS, When is enough, enough. What is the definition of overclocking now, given that these chips including Intel's overclock themselves automatically. Putting that information out to overclockers and enthusiasts is pathetic. Skipping this generation and going for next. Ryzen 4+ or 5 whatever the flavor is.
Come on, all this marketing BS, When is enough, enough. What is the definition of overclocking now, given that these chips including Intel's overclock themselves automatically. Putting that information out to overclockers and enthusiasts is pathetic. Skipping this generation and going for next. Ryzen 4+ or 5 whatever the flavor is.
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#6020625 Posted on: 05/26/2022 05:41 PM
Eep...
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-corrects-socket-am5-for-ryzen-7000-power-specs-230w-peak-power-170w-tdp
Still lower than intel, but still...
When you consider the higher thread count and that all of the cores are full-size, it looks a little better, but yeah, 230W is getting too high. 200W really ought to be the peak for a stock desktop CPU. This still might technically fall under the 170W TDP but I'd rather not see a stock CPU burst that high.
Eep...
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-corrects-socket-am5-for-ryzen-7000-power-specs-230w-peak-power-170w-tdp
Still lower than intel, but still...
When you consider the higher thread count and that all of the cores are full-size, it looks a little better, but yeah, 230W is getting too high. 200W really ought to be the peak for a stock desktop CPU. This still might technically fall under the 170W TDP but I'd rather not see a stock CPU burst that high.
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#6020630 Posted on: 05/26/2022 05:49 PM
Higher wattage is only when the CPU is on full load.
When you consider the higher thread count and that all of the cores are full-size, it looks a little better, but yeah, 230W is getting too high. 200W really ought to be the peak for a stock desktop CPU. This still might technically fall under the 170W TDP but I'd rather not see a stock CPU burst that high.
Higher wattage is only when the CPU is on full load.
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#6020641 Posted on: 05/26/2022 06:24 PM
For a 5nm chip ya that's not great at all.
If you count the process in nm, performance and consumption this is pure bollocks.
Add price (and I do expect a high one)
Edit: if I am to compare this Zen4 to Zen3 at the same frequency I bet is horshit difference lol
Exactly. For those of us that remember/have heard of Sudden Northwood Death Syndrome - I'm going to expect things like this occurring with these steadily smaller processes. I know that X nm doesn't mean the transistors are that small, it's the size of the smallest feature, but still, we're getting VERY close to the limits of what Si can handle. Running such small features at these voltages and currents isn't safe for the chips.
When you consider the higher thread count and that all of the cores are full-size, it looks a little better, but yeah, 230W is getting too high. 200W really ought to be the peak for a stock desktop CPU. This still might technically fall under the 170W TDP but I'd rather not see a stock CPU burst that high.
I'm running 1 x 14 nm chip (6850K) and 1 x 22 nm chip (5960X), both of which consume well under 200 W (each) overclocked, especially in the case of the former. Intel, AMD, and nVidia (especially) have just thrown efficiency and OCing headroom out of the window in recent years. It's getting silly.
For a 5nm chip ya that's not great at all.
If you count the process in nm, performance and consumption this is pure bollocks.
Add price (and I do expect a high one)
Edit: if I am to compare this Zen4 to Zen3 at the same frequency I bet is horshit difference lol
Exactly. For those of us that remember/have heard of Sudden Northwood Death Syndrome - I'm going to expect things like this occurring with these steadily smaller processes. I know that X nm doesn't mean the transistors are that small, it's the size of the smallest feature, but still, we're getting VERY close to the limits of what Si can handle. Running such small features at these voltages and currents isn't safe for the chips.
When you consider the higher thread count and that all of the cores are full-size, it looks a little better, but yeah, 230W is getting too high. 200W really ought to be the peak for a stock desktop CPU. This still might technically fall under the 170W TDP but I'd rather not see a stock CPU burst that high.
I'm running 1 x 14 nm chip (6850K) and 1 x 22 nm chip (5960X), both of which consume well under 200 W (each) overclocked, especially in the case of the former. Intel, AMD, and nVidia (especially) have just thrown efficiency and OCing headroom out of the window in recent years. It's getting silly.
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Eep...
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-corrects-socket-am5-for-ryzen-7000-power-specs-230w-peak-power-170w-tdp
Still lower than intel, but still...
For a 5nm chip ya that's not great at all.
If you count the process in nm, performance and consumption this is pure bollocks.
Add price (and I do expect a high one)
Edit: if I am to compare this Zen4 to Zen3 at the same frequency I bet is horshit difference lol