AMD Readies Ryzen 5 Series and will offer six- and four-core processors starting April 11

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 03/16/2017 05:22 AM | source: | 81 comment(s)

AMD today is announcing more Ryzen processors. As you guys know AMD made a promise to release the Ryzen 5 series in Q2 this year. Well, they have been able to meet that time slot and as such we can shed some light on Ryzen 5 processors that are to be released April 11^th.

First off I wanted to write a quick apology to the AMD team, a handful of you might have noticed this news-item yesterday morning already. Ye ol' Hilbert here converted the embargo time wrong, which was initially set at March 15th 11pm CT. Once you convert CT to CET that reads 5am CET (central european standard time). However, that would be on the next day, and not the current day for Europe. So all info that you all have been able to read widely on the web yesterday is a result of a time conversion error from our side. In the minutes the news-item was only all content including full screenshots got posted and plastered onto the web everywhere. That is so how we not roll. That said, it's 4 and 6-core Ryzen time you guys. Ryzen 5 will be a handful of 6-core processors as well as 4-core processors, priced attractively I must say. Both the 6 and 4 core models all are SMT thus you may double up the cores into threads 4:8 and 6:12.

AMD will release four new models:

Ryzen 5 1600X
This is a six-core part with 12-threads. The base frequency will be 3.6 GHz with a nice 4.0 Ghz boost frequency. This processor will cost 249 USD.
Ryzen 5 1600
This is a six-core part with 12-threads. The base frequency will be 3.2 GHz with a nice 3.6 GHz boost aka turbo frequency. This processor will cost 219 USD.
Ryzen 5 1500X
This is a four-core part with 8-threads. The base frequency will be 3.5 GHz with a 3.7 GHz boost aka turbo frequency. This processor will cost 189 USD.
Ryzen 5 1400
The 1400 is again a four-core part with 8-threads. The base frequency will be 3.2 GHz with a 3.4 GHz boost aka turbo frequency. This processor will cost 169 USD.

As stated before these processors are priced competitive alright. The flagship units will have a 95 Watt TDP, the lower SKUs settle for 65 Watts. These value are indicative that the processors are all 8-core models with a CCX or two cores disabled, this is yet to be confirmed though.

Update: The six-core parts will configured into a strict 3+3 combination, while the four-core parts will use 2+2. This confirms that both core clusters are in use and indeed these are 8-core parts with cores disabled. That also means for the 4-core enabled parts, the CCX clusters will run into the very same CPU bound game performance challenges. Then again with less cores enabled there's also less load and thus there should be less latency in-between the two CCXes.

AMD is going to make SKUs available with a stock coolers, these will be the Wraith Stealth for the Ryzen 5 1400 and the Wraith Spire for the 1600 and 1600X. These stock coolers do not have LED lighting enabled.

Improved XFR ranges - Ryzen 5 1500X also has support for an extended XFR frequency range of up to 3.9GHz (+200MHz over the max, all-core turbo frequency), XFR details for the other processors in the line-up have not been detailed. The four Ryzen 5 processors will be available starting April 11^th. Ryzen series 3 you will see in the 2^nd Half of 2017.


Processor model	Cores/Threads	L3 Cache	TDP	Base	Turbo	Unlocked	Price
AMD Ryzen 7 1800X	8/16	16 MB	95 W	3.6 GHz	4.0 GHz	Yes	$499
AMD Ryzen 7 1700X	8/16	16 MB	95 W	3.4 GHz	3.8 GHz	Yes	$399
AMD Ryzen 7 1700	8/16	16 MB	65 W	3.0 GHz	3.7 GHz	Yes	$349
AMD Ryzen 5 1600X	6/12	16 MB	95 W	3.6 GHz	4.0 GHz	Yes	$249
AMD Ryzen 5 1600	6/12	16 MB	95 W	3.2 GHz	3.6 GHz	Yes	$219
AMD Ryzen 5 1500X	4/8	TBA	65 W	3.5 GHz	3.7 GHz	Yes	$189
AMD Ryzen 5 1400	4/8	TBA	65 W	3.2 GHz	3.4 GHz	Yes	$169

In the above table you can see the launch SKUs as well as an overview of what to expect in the coming months processor wise, it is going to be a busy year with AMD processor reviews alright. Have a browse below at the media deck for some more details.

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prateek
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#5407602 Posted on: 03/16/2017 09:06 AM

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#5407603 Posted on: 03/16/2017 09:08 AM

Yeah, I was wondering about that. Thanks. Though it's kind of disappointing they won't be offering non-defective dies for "4 core" chips, just a straight up working set of 4. I guess they have a lot of defective dies.

Well, this in turn means that the R5s will not be better than R7s in gaming - or rather, at the very least suffern from the same CCX latency issues.

From one perspective that's unfortunate but from the other side it makes sense as it would likely not look good for AMD, either if they went with a single 4 core CCX having their quads outperform the rest even though they run at the same clock speeds.

Question remains if the CCX issues will be addressed eventually, by whomever.

I'd also not be surprised if the first batch(es) of R5s could be reliably unlocked :nerd:

Perhaps however the release of R7s ahead of time were meant to collect enough 'spare parts' for the others.

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#5407604 Posted on: 03/16/2017 09:11 AM

I've got a bad feeling that fewer cores will equate to more performance impact.... AMD is already showing multi-threaded Cinebench results that show the Ryzen 5 1600X only being 69% faster than the i5 7600k....which isn't very promising considering there's 8 more logical cores.

Ryzen 5 1600X has 12 logical cores (6c/12t)
Core i5 7600K has 4 logical cores (4c/4t)

1600x with 6 core Vs i5 4 cores means 50% more cores . SMT enabled will add a performance between 10-30% . So 69% is good.

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#5407609 Posted on: 03/16/2017 09:13 AM

From one perspective that's unfortunate but from the other side it makes sense as it would likely not look good for AMD, either if they went with a single 4 core CCX having their quads outperform the rest even though they run at the same clock speeds.

No, it doesn't make sense. Like has been said multiple times, Intel's quad is still a better game performer than the obnoxiously expensive ones with more cores. If that works perfectly for Intel, why would it suddenly hurt AMD? It would be weird for an underdog to be so picky and proud.

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#5407611 Posted on: 03/16/2017 09:22 AM

From a binning perspective they'd throw away halves of perfectly fine R7s if they build their R5s with 1 CCX 4c. Instead they turn their trash into gold. Economically speaking, for them, it's good.

Additionally they keep consistency across the whole Ryzen platform, which is also good. Assuming they'll sell of course. Given the price points chances are they will until there will be HT i5s.

Of course they could cater to gamers specifically by going 1 CCX 4c but then game developers perhaps would have even less of an incentive to optimize for Ryzen's CCX setup effectively leaving the 1600 and R7s gimped for eternity.

Funnily enough this may puts their APUs ahead, for they may come as single CCX parts.

Overall, as a customer (who picked up an R7 or 1600(X)) I'd expect my CPU to perform the same on the same frequency as the lower end parts insofar they're of the same generation (or processor family anyway).

I understand however, that AMD is again taking a gamble. I think Intel has hit its maximum with the 7700K - so I don't see any >5ghz chips soon. This only leaves scaling to more cores than fequency and brute force.

If Ryzen remains unadopted and no one will optimize for it AMD may fall very flat again but it'll also leave us stuck with 7700Ks for another X years.

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