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AMD Radeon R300 Grenada is 380X, Fiji is 390X and Bermuda is 395x2
Alright, it's time for some sugar and spice. New specs and codenames for AMDs upcoming Radeon 300 series have surfaced on the web. Initially you will see a Radeon R9 380X and R9 380 graphics released, these now fall under codename Grenanda.
Fiji and Bermuda (Radeon R9 390 & 390X & 395x2)
We start with Fiji, this will be an new GCN v1.3 based silicon, that GPU forms the basis of the high-end and enthusiast class products. Very little is know TBH. The latest gossip points towards 4,096 shader processors / GCN 1.3 architecture / 256 TMUs with 128 ROPs, and a 1024-bit wide HBM memory interface, offering 640 GB/s of memory bandwidth. We assume 4 GB will be defacto the the memory amount. Expect the R9 390, the R9 390X, and the 2x Fiji = Bermuda = R9 390X2 to be based on that GPU.
Grenada (Radeon R9 380 & 380X)
Grenada will be based on the good and relatively old 28nm fab process, the GPU will actually be refresh of Hawaii. Here is the spicy bit as this is going to be rather disappointing for a lot of you guys, Grenada will have the same specs as Hawaii - 2,816 GCN stream processors, 176 TMUs, 64 ROPs, and a 512-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface and is tapping into 4 GB memory (fully usable we assume:). The GPU is different in the sense that it is going to have increased clock frequencies to beat the GTX 980 from Nvidia. We expect a similar TDP, yet better cooling we hope.
Hawaii GPU to be refreshed
Tonga (Radeon R9 370 & 370X)
The second rumor is that Tonga (R9 285) which had a rather miserable launch will be re-used and form the basis of the Radeon R9 370 series. Tonga has 2,048 shader processors, GCN 1.3 architecture, 128 TMUs, 32 ROPs, and a 384-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface. We expect these cards to have increased clocks and 3GB of graphics memory.
Trinidad (Radeon R7 360 & 360X)
Trinidad is the low-end segment, and will be the Radeon R7 360 & 360X. Very little is known however this will be a refresh based on Pitcairn.
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It is rumored that AMD is working hard on releasing the next high-end graphics cards, tagged as Radeon R9 390X (or 380X). Asian website Chiphell now has posted a couple of benchmarks in their forums ...
AMD Radeon 390 and 390X Specs and Benchmarks ? - 11/11/2014 08:57 AM
Interesting news, over at the ranking system of SiSoft Sandra new entries have been spotted of what seem to be GPUs that we don't know of. And the specs are pretty appealing. Let's call the two entr...
AMD Radeon R9 285 Launches September 2nd - 08/22/2014 07:00 AM
AMD has kept the wraps on this one tight, however a document shows that the Tonga based Radeon R9 285 will be released onb the 2nd September, 2014. Tomorrow August 23rd AMD is celebrating 30 years o...
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#5010796 Posted on: 02/09/2015 09:49 PM
If you do not understand how rebrands are bad for consumers as a whole, I do not know what to tell you. If these rumors are true, only the very high end will be new. Everything else will be rebrands. Me? I always buy the best, so it does not really pertain to me. Many if not most people cannot afford the best and they may be relegated to buying rebrands. 7970, 7970 ghz edition, 8970, 280x and whats rumored in the slide too. Enough is enough. Same goes for nvidia rebrands. Enough is enough.
If you do not understand how rebrands are bad for consumers as a whole, I do not know what to tell you. If these rumors are true, only the very high end will be new. Everything else will be rebrands. Me? I always buy the best, so it does not really pertain to me. Many if not most people cannot afford the best and they may be relegated to buying rebrands. 7970, 7970 ghz edition, 8970, 280x and whats rumored in the slide too. Enough is enough. Same goes for nvidia rebrands. Enough is enough.
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#5010797 Posted on: 02/09/2015 10:00 PM
Who cares about mid-high end rebrands, yes both sides do it..
Those who really follow the scene are only interested in FijiXT and GM200 anyway, so let them rebrand Evergreen 5000 series for lower tier if they want
Who cares about mid-high end rebrands, yes both sides do it..
Those who really follow the scene are only interested in FijiXT and GM200 anyway, so let them rebrand Evergreen 5000 series for lower tier if they want
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#5010801 Posted on: 02/09/2015 10:05 PM
Well yeah. Who cares about mid-high end rebrands. I got my 280X aka 7970 for 250$ when it was 'Hot'. 7970 was a 450$ flagship AMD card so thats not always a bad thing.
Anyway, all eyes are towards 390X, what happens with other cards are not a big deal at all.
Well yeah. Who cares about mid-high end rebrands. I got my 280X aka 7970 for 250$ when it was 'Hot'. 7970 was a 450$ flagship AMD card so thats not always a bad thing.
Anyway, all eyes are towards 390X, what happens with other cards are not a big deal at all.
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#5010807 Posted on: 02/09/2015 10:26 PM
first we need to see the price.. if the 380x is 250-270 bucks it would be awesome
If you do not understand how rebrands are bad for consumers as a whole, I do not know what to tell you. If these rumors are true, only the very high end will be new. Everything else will be rebrands. Me? I always buy the best, so it does not really pertain to me. Many if not most people cannot afford the best and they may be relegated to buying rebrands. 7970, 7970 ghz edition, 8970, 280x and whats rumored in the slide too. Enough is enough. Same goes for nvidia rebrands. Enough is enough.
first we need to see the price.. if the 380x is 250-270 bucks it would be awesome
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#5010810 Posted on: 02/09/2015 10:31 PM
Well yeah. Who cares about mid-high end rebrands. I got my 280X aka 7970 for 250$ when it was 'Hot'. 7970 was a 550$ flagship AMD card so thats not always a bad thing.
Anyway, all eyes are towards 390X, what happens with other cards are not a big deal at all.
Fixed that for you.
Injected in the 499EUR / 549 USD price tag bracket the product will have to compete directly with the equally expensive GeForce GTX 580, it will actually be a decent notch better then that IMHO. The results that you'll witness today will not dishearten. Where it matters (the latest and newer games) the Radeon HD 7970 will be a good 20%, 30% sometimes even 40% faster then the competition, and in the world of enthusiast graphics performance that's what we call, a product with a little extra booty... well actually I call it that, but my mind is twisted (hey I admit it).
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Well yeah. Who cares about mid-high end rebrands. I got my 280X aka 7970 for 250$ when it was 'Hot'. 7970 was a 550$ flagship AMD card so thats not always a bad thing.
Anyway, all eyes are towards 390X, what happens with other cards are not a big deal at all.
Fixed that for you.
Injected in the 499EUR / 549 USD price tag bracket the product will have to compete directly with the equally expensive GeForce GTX 580, it will actually be a decent notch better then that IMHO. The results that you'll witness today will not dishearten. Where it matters (the latest and newer games) the Radeon HD 7970 will be a good 20%, 30% sometimes even 40% faster then the competition, and in the world of enthusiast graphics performance that's what we call, a product with a little extra booty... well actually I call it that, but my mind is twisted (hey I admit it).
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#5010811 Posted on: 02/09/2015 10:36 PM
Well yeah. Who cares about mid-high end rebrands. I got my 280X aka 7970 for 250$ when it was 'Hot'. 7970 was a 450$ flagship AMD card so thats not always a bad thing.
Anyway, all eyes are towards 390X, what happens with other cards are not a big deal at all.
Was is the key 280x was considered mid range on release like the 770. After all the 7970 price cuts they were around the $250 range in the USA. 7950 around $200. Was not really much of a deal tbh.
Well yeah. Who cares about mid-high end rebrands. I got my 280X aka 7970 for 250$ when it was 'Hot'. 7970 was a 450$ flagship AMD card so thats not always a bad thing.
Anyway, all eyes are towards 390X, what happens with other cards are not a big deal at all.
Was is the key 280x was considered mid range on release like the 770. After all the 7970 price cuts they were around the $250 range in the USA. 7950 around $200. Was not really much of a deal tbh.
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#5010835 Posted on: 02/09/2015 11:39 PM
So... aside from the 380(X), where have you continued reading that suddenly changed your mind? That makes no sense at all. Even GCN 1.2 is pretty good - there was only ONE chip in the R9 200 series that used it, and nobody wanted it because of the lack of VRAM, but otherwise it's a good chip.
In most cases, nvidia is the better brand. If you can afford it, you don't need to focus on AMD. But I gotta say, your claim here is utter nonsense. To my knowledge, Mantle and Freesync are the ONLY technologies they released that are game specific, and even then, I'm not sure freesync is. Freesync is also an open platform (hence, "Free") so other developers can use it, presumably royalty-free. Mantle was a proof-of-concept, and it did its job because OGL-Next, Metal, and DX12 were inspired because of it. AMD has other technologies, such as Eyefinity, that aren't game-specific. Meanwhile, nvidia has CUDA, G-sync, Physx, and VisionWorks which are all intentionally proprietary to their platform and have very few implementations in games.
I'm not trying to bash nvidia here, because I have happily owned nvidia products in the past (and still do). But your bias is ridiculous.
Don't forget about all those cool AA modes that don't see much support.
So... aside from the 380(X), where have you continued reading that suddenly changed your mind? That makes no sense at all. Even GCN 1.2 is pretty good - there was only ONE chip in the R9 200 series that used it, and nobody wanted it because of the lack of VRAM, but otherwise it's a good chip.
In most cases, nvidia is the better brand. If you can afford it, you don't need to focus on AMD. But I gotta say, your claim here is utter nonsense. To my knowledge, Mantle and Freesync are the ONLY technologies they released that are game specific, and even then, I'm not sure freesync is. Freesync is also an open platform (hence, "Free") so other developers can use it, presumably royalty-free. Mantle was a proof-of-concept, and it did its job because OGL-Next, Metal, and DX12 were inspired because of it. AMD has other technologies, such as Eyefinity, that aren't game-specific. Meanwhile, nvidia has CUDA, G-sync, Physx, and VisionWorks which are all intentionally proprietary to their platform and have very few implementations in games.
I'm not trying to bash nvidia here, because I have happily owned nvidia products in the past (and still do). But your bias is ridiculous.
Don't forget about all those cool AA modes that don't see much support.
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#5010850 Posted on: 02/10/2015 12:14 AM
I hope there'll be an 8GB version of the 390X. The next card(s) I'll upgrade to will have to have at least 8GB of fully usable memory. I'd prefer an AMD card as I prefer RGSSAA over SGSSAA and other FSAA modes, but mere 4GB won't cut it for me.
I hope there'll be an 8GB version of the 390X. The next card(s) I'll upgrade to will have to have at least 8GB of fully usable memory. I'd prefer an AMD card as I prefer RGSSAA over SGSSAA and other FSAA modes, but mere 4GB won't cut it for me.
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#5010857 Posted on: 02/10/2015 12:31 AM
I agree. I want a 8 gb version.
I hope there'll be an 8GB version of the 390X. The next card(s) I'll upgrade to will have to have at least 8GB of fully usable memory. I'd prefer an AMD card as I prefer RGSSAA over SGSSAA and other FSAA modes, but mere 4GB won't cut it for me.
I agree. I want a 8 gb version.
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#5010891 Posted on: 02/10/2015 01:13 AM
Well it will be 4GB very fast ram, 2x faster then current 288 - 340GB/s variants, also dx11.1 - 12 games will be more memory conservative with better vram allocation - constant buffers, kinda like this now @ nvidia dev zone, posted on 15th Jan 2015.
Interesting read
https://developer.nvidia.com/content/constant-buffers-without-constant-pain-0
I hope there'll be an 8GB version of the 390X. The next card(s) I'll upgrade to will have to have at least 8GB of fully usable memory. I'd prefer an AMD card as I prefer RGSSAA over SGSSAA and other FSAA modes, but mere 4GB won't cut it for me.
Well it will be 4GB very fast ram, 2x faster then current 288 - 340GB/s variants, also dx11.1 - 12 games will be more memory conservative with better vram allocation - constant buffers, kinda like this now @ nvidia dev zone, posted on 15th Jan 2015.
Interesting read
https://developer.nvidia.com/content/constant-buffers-without-constant-pain-0
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#5010932 Posted on: 02/10/2015 02:12 AM
I bought 2x MSI 290x customsinds early 2014 and im sind sthen VERY pleased with card most drivers where good and i can run all perfectly had some real good benchmarks, price of 290x where SUPER.
So im waiting for 390x and hope it's as good as 290x custom are, can't wait to buy one.
I bought 2x MSI 290x customsinds early 2014 and im sind sthen VERY pleased with card most drivers where good and i can run all perfectly had some real good benchmarks, price of 290x where SUPER.
So im waiting for 390x and hope it's as good as 290x custom are, can't wait to buy one.
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#5010936 Posted on: 02/10/2015 02:17 AM
How many times is your inner ignorant green fan boy gonna post this? Seriously gtfo if your gonna just be dumb.
On topic,
Just got a R9 290 today. And honestly its a beast.
Just by itself it can handle BF Hardline beta all ultra 2xMSAA @ 4414x1024 res and still avg 55fps.
390x will be interesting to see what it does.
Ah, it looks like AMD is coming out with their new room heaters.
How many times is your inner ignorant green fan boy gonna post this? Seriously gtfo if your gonna just be dumb.
On topic,
Just got a R9 290 today. And honestly its a beast.
Just by itself it can handle BF Hardline beta all ultra 2xMSAA @ 4414x1024 res and still avg 55fps.
390x will be interesting to see what it does.
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#5010938 Posted on: 02/10/2015 02:20 AM
Rebrands are not simply changing the label on the card and box. The chipset is tweaked and improved as well. It really is a better card than the original one it is highly based upon.
EDIT: Well, most anyway. I have a problem with the ones where nothing is changed.
Rebrands are not simply changing the label on the card and box. The chipset is tweaked and improved as well. It really is a better card than the original one it is highly based upon.
EDIT: Well, most anyway. I have a problem with the ones where nothing is changed.
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#5010939 Posted on: 02/10/2015 02:22 AM
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1041?vs=1031
Your right look at the difference between a 7970 ghz edition and a 280x. epic improvement.
Rebrands are not simply changing the label on the card and box. The chipset is tweaked and improved as well. It really is a better card than the original one it is highly based upon.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1041?vs=1031
Your right look at the difference between a 7970 ghz edition and a 280x. epic improvement.
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Of course you don't see a problem.
BTW I want AMD to do good even take the crown for an entire generation so as to force Nvidia's hand and keep them honest, but I think they need to move past GCN for that to happen.
um both camps re-brand.. so again what is the big fuss?