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AMD Radeon 400 series is based on Polaris microarchitecture
I could tell you that I didn't know about the name, but that would be a lie. Anyway, Polaris is the new architecture codename empowering AMDs 2016 GPUs. We should have some more info on that next week. However, the naming leaked onto the web, so let's investigate a tiny bit.
Korean tech site HardwareBattle has leaked an image of seems to be an AMD presentation slide. According to some websites Polaris (North Star = brightest visible star in thes sky) will replace GCN as an architecture.
An astronomy Tweet by head of AMD Radeon Technology Group followed by a tweet from Chris Hook and Raja Koduri hint towards an upcoming Polaris-based GPU with performance accordingly. As you can see from a Twitter exchange in-between AMD marketing director Chris Hook and Koduri you can read in-between the lines with hinting towards a new micro-architecture.
Koduri references Polaris being "2.5 times brighter". Polaris would be the micro-architecture empowering GPUs like 'Greenland', based on the new 16 and or 14nm FinFET LPP process. We do hope that AMD's future is at least 2.5x more bright in 2016 with products that will shine like the North Star.
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#5213348 Posted on: 01/01/2016 02:04 PM
Yeah that image just looks all kinds of wrong.
Yeah that image just looks all kinds of wrong.
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#5213352 Posted on: 01/01/2016 02:43 PM
That image is probably just edited with what would be otherwise not visible. You can even see that "n" in inspiration is also shorter than it should be.
That image is probably just edited with what would be otherwise not visible. You can even see that "n" in inspiration is also shorter than it should be.
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#5213365 Posted on: 01/01/2016 03:27 PM
I've been thinking about getting an Asus R9 390 Strix. Does anyone have an idea about how long it will be, before the 400 series is released?
I've been thinking about getting an Asus R9 390 Strix. Does anyone have an idea about how long it will be, before the 400 series is released?
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#5213370 Posted on: 01/01/2016 03:37 PM
TBA 2016, just like Pascal.
R9 390 is a very good card. If you need a card now no need to wait something we still dont know nothing about.
I've been thinking about getting an Asus R9 390 Strix. Does anyone have an idea about how long it will be, before the 400 series is released?
TBA 2016, just like Pascal.
R9 390 is a very good card. If you need a card now no need to wait something we still dont know nothing about.
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#5213387 Posted on: 01/01/2016 04:05 PM
Maaaaaaaan I love the sound of new hardware on the horizon....!!
Either company could release their big dogs next and I think I'll scoop up at least one from each company this go around. Going to be nice rocking something new in a year or so....
Maaaaaaaan I love the sound of new hardware on the horizon....!!
Either company could release their big dogs next and I think I'll scoop up at least one from each company this go around. Going to be nice rocking something new in a year or so....
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#5213388 Posted on: 01/01/2016 04:07 PM
I have the R9 290 (basically the same thing) and for 1080p gaming it's probably the best-valued GPU you can get at the moment, with or without the bonus games the GPU may come with. I too am interested to see where the 400 series goes but I don't think you'd regret getting a 290/390.
Just something to keep in mind though - I don't know if you like doing BIOS mods but many of these GPUs have their BIOS totally locked-down. Also, seeing as you're in Flordia, I hope your AC works during the summer, because these GPUs exhaust a lot of heat.
I've been thinking about getting an Asus R9 390 Strix. Does anyone have an idea about how long it will be, before the 400 series is released?
I have the R9 290 (basically the same thing) and for 1080p gaming it's probably the best-valued GPU you can get at the moment, with or without the bonus games the GPU may come with. I too am interested to see where the 400 series goes but I don't think you'd regret getting a 290/390.
Just something to keep in mind though - I don't know if you like doing BIOS mods but many of these GPUs have their BIOS totally locked-down. Also, seeing as you're in Flordia, I hope your AC works during the summer, because these GPUs exhaust a lot of heat.
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#5213400 Posted on: 01/01/2016 04:23 PM
TBA 2016, just like Pascal.
R9 390 is a very good card. If you need a card now no need to wait something we still dont know nothing about.
Didn't Nvidia say a while back that Pascal would be released in Q1? What happened to that?
TBA 2016, just like Pascal.
R9 390 is a very good card. If you need a card now no need to wait something we still dont know nothing about.
Didn't Nvidia say a while back that Pascal would be released in Q1? What happened to that?
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#5213407 Posted on: 01/01/2016 04:31 PM
I have the R9 290 (basically the same thing) and for 1080p gaming it's probably the best-valued GPU you can get at the moment, with or without the bonus games the GPU may come with. I too am interested to see where the 400 series goes but I don't think you'd regret getting a 290/390.
Just something to keep in mind though - I don't know if you like doing BIOS mods but many of these GPUs have their BIOS totally locked-down. Also, seeing as you're in Flordia, I hope your AC works during the summer, because these GPUs exhaust a lot of heat.
AC works well.
The Asus Strix looks to OC very well, should I want to do that, so I wouldn't be looking to mod the bios. Running a Dell U2715H 2560x1440
I have the R9 290 (basically the same thing) and for 1080p gaming it's probably the best-valued GPU you can get at the moment, with or without the bonus games the GPU may come with. I too am interested to see where the 400 series goes but I don't think you'd regret getting a 290/390.
Just something to keep in mind though - I don't know if you like doing BIOS mods but many of these GPUs have their BIOS totally locked-down. Also, seeing as you're in Flordia, I hope your AC works during the summer, because these GPUs exhaust a lot of heat.
AC works well.
The Asus Strix looks to OC very well, should I want to do that, so I wouldn't be looking to mod the bios. Running a Dell U2715H 2560x1440
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#5213416 Posted on: 01/01/2016 04:47 PM
Nvidia never gave a time-frame other than 2016. But it's usually about 9-10 months from tape out to a chip launch. Which would put the launch around April. But this isn't a normal chip launch. It's the first Finfet GPU, it's the first HBM GPU for Nvidia, it's a new architecture and they are most likely going to use a mezzanine connector to a PCI bridge and ship the chip in modules to OEMs. All of these things will definitely complicate the time table for the launch.
Didn't Nvidia say a while back that Pascal would be released in Q1? What happened to that?
Nvidia never gave a time-frame other than 2016. But it's usually about 9-10 months from tape out to a chip launch. Which would put the launch around April. But this isn't a normal chip launch. It's the first Finfet GPU, it's the first HBM GPU for Nvidia, it's a new architecture and they are most likely going to use a mezzanine connector to a PCI bridge and ship the chip in modules to OEMs. All of these things will definitely complicate the time table for the launch.
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#5213452 Posted on: 01/01/2016 05:53 PM
Why would AMD want to scrape GCN? GCN is well known for AMD software engineers, early tests show perform well on DX12, is same architecture used in consoles and 14nm should make it power efficient too. Plus its cheaper to improve on GCN then create completely new arch.
Probably Polaris is just a name for new GCN version why should nVidia be the only one with fancy names
Why would AMD want to scrape GCN? GCN is well known for AMD software engineers, early tests show perform well on DX12, is same architecture used in consoles and 14nm should make it power efficient too. Plus its cheaper to improve on GCN then create completely new arch.
Probably Polaris is just a name for new GCN version
why should nVidia be the only one with fancy names
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#5213453 Posted on: 01/01/2016 05:54 PM
As said, Polaris is most likely GCN 1.3/2.0
As said, Polaris is most likely GCN 1.3/2.0
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#5213458 Posted on: 01/01/2016 06:07 PM
GCN 2.0 i believe it will be, since recently AMD said GCN wasn't going anywhere. It works well enough. I want to upgrade my R9 290 but don't feel compelled to as it playing everything i own @ 2560x1080p without breaking a sweat.
As said, Polaris is most likely GCN 1.3/2.0
GCN 2.0 i believe it will be, since recently AMD said GCN wasn't going anywhere. It works well enough. I want to upgrade my R9 290 but don't feel compelled to as it playing everything i own @ 2560x1080p without breaking a sweat.
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#5213480 Posted on: 01/01/2016 07:11 PM
Everything in the near future is light based. I think this is just a reference to it's power though.
As in Polaris is 2.5 times faster than GCN. That i doubt is totally true. Not 2.5x faster than their fastest GPU. 2.5x faster than GCN 1.1 or even 1.0.
I've been reading up on these light based processors of the near future, were they just replace copper traces in the PCB with fiber instead.
Since we are getting close to the end of Moores Law(with silicon based tech) they are looking for ideas for a new way to use current silicon but with better/faster latency and throughput using light based internal connections.
I very much doubt AMD will receive this new tech with Polaris but the light based CPU/GPUs will start making an appearance in 2016 that i have no doubt about.
It's very clever tech because they can stretch out Silicon usage for longer while they look for alternatives.
I've read that they might not even bother aiming for 8nm and 10nm will be a huge risk as well. So they are looking into ways of using 12/14nm for much longer and that means they need to find new ways of using 12/14nm.
These light based processors have already been given the green light so expect half Silicon, half Quantum real soon.
Everything in the near future is light based. I think this is just a reference to it's power though.
As in Polaris is 2.5 times faster than GCN. That i doubt is totally true. Not 2.5x faster than their fastest GPU. 2.5x faster than GCN 1.1 or even 1.0.
I've been reading up on these light based processors of the near future, were they just replace copper traces in the PCB with fiber instead.
Since we are getting close to the end of Moores Law(with silicon based tech) they are looking for ideas for a new way to use current silicon but with better/faster latency and throughput using light based internal connections.
I very much doubt AMD will receive this new tech with Polaris but the light based CPU/GPUs will start making an appearance in 2016 that i have no doubt about.
It's very clever tech because they can stretch out Silicon usage for longer while they look for alternatives.
I've read that they might not even bother aiming for 8nm and 10nm will be a huge risk as well. So they are looking into ways of using 12/14nm for much longer and that means they need to find new ways of using 12/14nm.
These light based processors have already been given the green light so expect half Silicon, half Quantum real soon.
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#5213502 Posted on: 01/01/2016 08:16 PM
Brightest visible star in the sky?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List-of-brightest-stars
Brightest visible star in the sky?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List-of-brightest-stars
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Photoshopped?
If this is a quick photo, then tell me why the "for" and the word "every" are not in line of context? it seems photo-shopped, could be so you could read it, but this is certainly not the original.