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Guru3D.com » News » AMD Q4 sales decline remained small thanks to good sales of Ryzen CPUs and Radeon GPUs

AMD Q4 sales decline remained small thanks to good sales of Ryzen CPUs and Radeon GPUs

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 01/31/2018 08:27 AM | source: | 15 comment(s)
AMD Q4 sales decline remained small thanks to good sales of Ryzen CPUs and Radeon GPUs

AMD has reported fourth-quarter revenue for Q4  2017. Turnover and profit were lower than in the third quarter, but the decline in profit and turnover remained relatively small thanks to an increase in Ryzen processor and Radeon graphics cards sales.


AMD) today announced revenue for the fourth quarter of 2017 of $1.48 billion, operating income of $82 million and net income of $61 million or diluted earnings per share of $0.06. Non-GAAP(1) operating income was $103 million, non-GAAP(1) net income was $88 million and non-GAAP(1) diluted earnings per share was $0.08.

For fiscal 2017, the Company reported revenue of $5.33 billion, operating income of $204 million and net income of $43 million or diluted earnings per share of $0.04.  Non-GAAP(1) operating income was $301 million, non-GAAP(1) net income was $179 million and non-GAAP(1) diluted earnings per share was $0.17.

 

 
GAAP Financial Results
 
    Q4-17   Q3-17   Q4-16   2017   2016
Revenue   $1.48B   $1.64B   $1.11B   $5.33B   $4.27B
Operating income (loss)   $82M   $126M   $(3)M   $204M   $(372)M
Net income (loss)   $61M   $71M   $(51)M   $43M   $(497)M
Earnings (loss) per share   $0.06   $0.07   $(0.06)   $0.04   $(0.60)
 
Non-GAAP Financial Results(1)
 
    Q4-17   Q3-17   Q4-16   2017   2016
Revenue   $1.48B   $1.64B   $1.11B   $5.33B   $4.27B
Operating income   $103M   $155M   $26M   $301M   $44M
Net income (loss)   $88M   $110M   $(8)M   $179M   $(117)M
Earnings (loss) per share   $0.08   $0.10   $(0.01)   $0.17   $(0.14)
                     

 

“2017 marked a key inflection point for AMD as we re-shaped our product portfolio, delivered 25 percent annual revenue growth, expanded gross margin and achieved full-year profitability," said Dr. Lisa Su, AMD president and CEO. "We are even more excited about 2018 as we launch our next wave of high-performance products and continue to position AMD as one of the premier long-term growth companies in the technology industry.”

Q4 2017 Results

  • Revenue of $1.48 billion was up 34 percent year-over-year, primarily driven by strong sales of Radeon™ graphics and Ryzen™ processors. Revenue was down 10 percent sequentially, primarily driven by seasonally lower sales of semi-custom SoCs.
  • Gross margin was 35 percent, up 3 percentage points year-over-year and flat sequentially.
  • On a GAAP basis, operating income was $82 million compared to an operating loss of $3 million a year ago and operating income of $126 million in the prior quarter. The year-over-year increase was primarily due to higher revenue from the Computing and Graphics segment, while the sequential decrease was primarily due to seasonally lower Enterprise, Embedded and Semi-Custom segment revenue. Net income was $61 million compared to a net loss of $51 million a year ago and net income of $71 million in the prior quarter. Diluted earnings per share was $0.06 compared to a loss per share of $0.06 a year ago and diluted earnings per share of $0.07 in the prior quarter.
  • On a non-GAAP basis, operating income was $103 million compared to operating income of $26 million a year ago and $155 million in the prior quarter. The year-over-year improvement was primarily due to higher revenue from the Computing and Graphics segment, while the sequential decrease was primarily due to seasonally lower Enterprise, Embedded and Semi-Custom segment revenue. Net income was $88 million compared to net loss of $8 million a year ago and net income of $110 million in the prior quarter. Diluted earnings per share was $0.08 compared to a loss per share of $0.01 a year ago and diluted earnings per share of $0.10 in the prior quarter.
  • Cash and cash equivalents were $1.18 billion at the end of the quarter, up $306 million from the end of the prior quarter.

2017 Annual Results

  • Revenue of $5.33 billion, up 25 percent on an annual basis, was driven by an increase in the Computing and Graphics segment.
  • On a GAAP basis, gross margin was 34 percent, up 11 percentage points from the prior year primarily due to the absence of a $340 million charge (WSA charge) recorded in 2016 associated with an amendment to our wafer supply agreement with GLOBALFOUNDRIES. Operating income was $204 millioncompared to an operating loss of $372 million in the prior year. The operating income improvement was primarily due to higher revenue and gross margin expansion in 2017, and the absence of the WSA charge recorded in 2016, partially offset by higher operating expenses. Net income was $43 million compared to a net loss of $497 million in the prior year. Diluted earnings per share was $0.04 compared to a loss per share of $0.60 in 2016.
  • On a non-GAAP(1) basis, gross margin was 34 percent, up 3 percentage points year-over-year primarily due to improved revenue mix from new products. Operating income was $301 million compared to an operating income of $44 million in the prior year. Operating income improvement was primarily related to higher revenue and gross margin expansion, partially offset by higher operating expenses. Net income was $179 million compared to a net loss of $117 million in the prior year. Diluted earnings per share was $0.17 compared to a loss per share of $0.14 in 2016.
  • Cash and cash equivalents were $1.18 billion at the end of the year, down from $1.26 billion at the end of 2016.

Quarterly Financial Segment Summary

  • Computing and Graphics segment revenue was $958 million, up 60 percent year-over-year and 17 percent sequentially. The year-over-year and sequential increases were primarily driven by strong sales of Radeon graphics and Ryzen desktop processors.
    ◦         Operating income was $85 million, compared to an operating loss of $21 million in Q4 2016 and operating income of $70 million in Q3 2017. The year-over-year and sequential improvements were primarily driven by higher revenue.
    ◦         Client average selling price (ASP) was up year-over-year driven by higher Ryzen desktop processors ASP. Client ASP was flat sequentially.
    ◦         GPU ASP increased year-over-year and sequentially due to higher desktop and professional graphics ASP.
  • Enterprise, Embedded and Semi-Custom segment revenue was $522 million, up 3 percent year-over-year driven by server revenue. Sequentially, revenue decreased 37 percent driven by seasonally lower semi-custom SoC revenue.
    ◦         Operating income was $19 million compared to $47 million in Q4 2016 and $84 million in Q3 2017. The year-over-year decrease was primarily due to the absence of a $31 million licensing gain in Q4 2016 and an increase in R&D expenses, partially offset by the benefit from a richer product mix. The sequential decrease was primarily due to seasonally lower semi-custom SoC revenue.
  • All Other operating loss was $22 million compared with operating losses of $29 million in Q4 2016 and $28 million in Q3 2017. The year-over-year and sequential improvement was primarily related to lower stock-based compensation charges in Q4 2017.

Current Outlook
AMD’s outlook statements are based on current expectations. The following statements are forward-looking, and actual results could differ materially depending on market conditions and the factors set forth under “Cautionary Statement” below.

For Q1 2018, AMD expects revenue to be approximately $1.55 billion, plus or minus $50 million, an increase of 32 percent year-over-year, primarily driven by the strength of the ramp of new Ryzen, GPU and EPYC products.

Guidance for Q1 2018 and the year-over-year comparison are under the new revenue recognition accounting standard (ASC 606). AMD is adopting the new revenue recognition standard by applying the “full retrospective” method. For comparative purposes under the new standard, Q1 2017 restated revenue was $1.18 billion and Q4 2017 restated revenue was $1.34 billion.

For fiscal 2018, AMD expects the impact of the new standard on revenue to be immaterial.







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#5515790 Posted on: 01/31/2018 03:50 PM
So the GPUs were bought as soon as there was availability because of mining and the CPUs had many discounts and still there is a decline. How?

As Relayer said, it's down to seasonality of their business (they forecasted it in the previous earnings call, so it's no real surprise).

The results were more-or-less what was expected, no big surprises either way. Stock is behaving positively so that's a good sign (the previous two earnings led to massive sell-offs). I think investors have figured out the business by now, and are listening to Dr. Su's statement that it will be a slow, gradual process.

Is it just me or are the percentages vs last year surprisingly low? 2017 was a pretty good year for AMD - they had a best-selling CPU on Amazon, they made a couple big customers via Epyc (though who knows if the money for that went through yet), Vega sold very well despite it's disappointing performance, and for pretty much the first time in AMD's history are we seeing all-AMD laptops that are actually worth getting. All of that and they have just a 25% annual revenue increase?

AMD was still making losses earlier in the year, and Ryzen was a staggered release (and the full product stack still isn't here, as the desktop APUs haven't been released yet). Intel also released their Coffee Lake platform late last year, which might have slowed AMD's momentum somewhat.

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#5515793 Posted on: 01/31/2018 03:58 PM
AMD was still making losses earlier in the year, and Ryzen was a staggered release (and the full product stack still isn't here, as the desktop APUs haven't been released yet). Intel also released their Coffee Lake platform late last year, which might have slowed AMD's momentum somewhat.

To my understanding, the annual revenue doesn't account for things like R&D, loans, or production costs (that's what gross margins are). So for that to only increase by 25% is what I find odd. That being said, I do find the increase in gross margin to be pretty reasonable.

I figure by the time Intel released CL, pretty much everyone who wanted an AM4 Ryzen already bought one, so I'm not sure CL had too much of an effect.

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#5515800 Posted on: 01/31/2018 04:14 PM
To my understanding, the annual revenue doesn't account for things like R&D, loans, or production costs (that's what gross margins are). So for that to only increase by 25% is what I find odd. That being said, I do find the increase in gross margin to be pretty reasonable.

I figure by the time Intel released CL, pretty much everyone who wanted an AM4 Ryzen already bought one, so I'm not sure CL had too much of an effect.
It's 25% for the total business, but note that the compute and graphics segment grew by 60% YoY (and most of that is probably due to Ryzen). As the future driver of growth, it's definitely encouraging. AMD also indicated that Zen 2 will have a fix for Spectre exploits so that's something to look forward to.

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#5515806 Posted on: 01/31/2018 04:47 PM
One needs to dig a little deeper to get to how the company is actually performing. Understanding the overall picture the Cash Flow Statement paints is needed. How much cash was used or provided by operations versus how much was used up by financing activities. Hopefully they can keep supplying the consumer market with these results after mining moves on.

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#5515871 Posted on: 01/31/2018 08:20 PM
AMD is doing very well and has created a cascade effect for Intel and the cpu market. the adoption of their server platforms has accelerated beyond their wildest dream, effectively ripping out the largest market segment from Intel.
there is almost an industry wide use of AMD in cloud servers to the point AMD has had to increase capital (mfg. infrastructure) ahead of earlier projection.
they are effectively trying to insulate each of their markets from the overall decline in pc sales and i think they've done well.
the SoC market is doing very well with next gen consoles and industrial/institutional markets.
and of course gpu's are selling as fast as they're made, regardless of spec.

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