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AMD possibly will be using XX5 revisions e.g. AMD Radeon RX 495
AMD could be moving towards xx5 donominators say 480 and then later on a 485 for their graphics card series, indicating faster models compared to 0 suffix based models. The company also reaffirms the arrival of the Radeon RX 490 model.
These xx5 revisions may actually be released after the initial batches and this are released after the current line of available products, thus these would be updated GPUs with say optimizations on 14nm FinFET chips for higher clock speeds and lower consumption. While AMD hasn't confirmed this is the case it certainly is indicative. So inevitable you might see say a Radeon RX 485 with the 4 for Generation, the 8 is the tier and the 5 being the revision. Striking is the mention of the '9', which AMD again the arrival of the RX 490 card confirms indirectly.
Tier versus performance things wil look like this, and if you look closely at the slide you can see the xx5 shown under 'Revision':
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| Radeon RX | 49X | >256bit | uhd, 2160p |
| 48X, 47X | 256bit | wqhd, 1440p | |
| 46X, 45X | 128bit | fullhd, 1080p | |
| Radeon | 460X, 45X | 128bit | fullhd, 1080p |
| 44X | 64bit | - | |
You can also spot the Tier 9 in there indicating Radeon RX 490, it is listed with a 256-bit wide (or higher) memory bus and tagged as a 4K capable graphics cards. AMD has not officially confirmed of the revisions, but pointed to the possibility of it with this slide.
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#5299065 Posted on: 07/01/2016 05:08 PM
But that is the point of the statement being that it is a 1440 card; hooking it up to an adaptive sync monitor. It does support it. So why not make an advertising point about it. The only way these adaptive sync monitors make it to the masses is if more sell. The statement on AMDs part is more self serving but pushes the fact to get the tech moving.
But that is the point of the statement being that it is a 1440 card; hooking it up to an adaptive sync monitor. It does support it. So why not make an advertising point about it. The only way these adaptive sync monitors make it to the masses is if more sell. The statement on AMDs part is more self serving but pushes the fact to get the tech moving.
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#5299067 Posted on: 07/01/2016 05:11 PM
That's the whole point of adaptive sync. One does not need to turn things way down. The dips and low frame rates are compensated for. All the cards need to do is output frame rates within the adaptive sync range.
...why build a PC that can't max out the games you want to run? Like, how is it enjoyable to game at 1440p when you have to turn everything down?
That's the whole point of adaptive sync. One does not need to turn things way down. The dips and low frame rates are compensated for. All the cards need to do is output frame rates within the adaptive sync range.
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#5299068 Posted on: 07/01/2016 05:11 PM
In that logic a 750Ti is a QHD card when hooked to a G-sync monitor.
But that is the point of the statement being that it is a 1440 card; hooking it up to an adaptive sync monitor. It does support it. So why not make an advertising point about it. The only way these adaptive sync monitors make it to the masses is if more sell. The statement on AMDs part is more self serving but pushes the fact to get the tech moving.
In that logic a 750Ti is a QHD card when hooked to a G-sync monitor.
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#5299072 Posted on: 07/01/2016 05:13 PM
you always have to take into consideration that if we focus on single setting FPS/performance difference:
1440p vs 1080p is a MUCH smaller hit on FPS
than
8xMSAA vs 2xMSAA
for example.
so people start making tradeoffs.
for example me. i play AAA games in 1440p with MSAA disabled but mostly TAA/SMAA/FXAA (what the game offers) enabled.
that way i have constantly above 60fps easily and can enjoy a very nice image quality (1440p!)
but if i go to 1080p and enable MSAAx8 instead i have generally the same image quality but my fps are around 45 and 60fps (approximately, and depending on game)
the next advantage is, that a resolution scaling is also a rather perf-level-stable setting without any fluctuation due to difference in scenery.
that means if there is a scene with many edges to be smoothened MSAA will draw more FPS so the variability of the FPS is way higher depending on the game scene.
with a resolution increase i have a pretty clear performance hit throughout
the whole game / throughout all situations of the game.
this is what people can do when they dont have the highest end cards.
...why build a PC that can't max out the games you want to run? Like, how is it enjoyable to game at 1440p when you have to turn everything down?
you always have to take into consideration that if we focus on single setting FPS/performance difference:
1440p vs 1080p is a MUCH smaller hit on FPS
than
8xMSAA vs 2xMSAA
for example.
so people start making tradeoffs.
for example me. i play AAA games in 1440p with MSAA disabled but mostly TAA/SMAA/FXAA (what the game offers) enabled.
that way i have constantly above 60fps easily and can enjoy a very nice image quality (1440p!)
but if i go to 1080p and enable MSAAx8 instead i have generally the same image quality but my fps are around 45 and 60fps (approximately, and depending on game)
the next advantage is, that a resolution scaling is also a rather perf-level-stable setting without any fluctuation due to difference in scenery.
that means if there is a scene with many edges to be smoothened MSAA will draw more FPS so the variability of the FPS is way higher depending on the game scene.
with a resolution increase i have a pretty clear performance hit throughout
the whole game / throughout all situations of the game.
this is what people can do when they dont have the highest end cards.
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you sounded like it is i a big difference of hooking up a $200 card to a 550$ monitor compared to cards of other cost.
so i just asked if someone should just pay other prices for not so expensive cards to attach them to a monitor without a strange feeling about it?
you see i put my 4000$ motorcycle into a 15000$ carport.
and i dont feel that the bike is not worthy of that carport at all.
Not the best comparison. A carport is worth something without the motorcycle.
You can find one under 400.
A 2560x1440?
Lowest priced QHD free-sync on newegg is a refurb asus at $399.99