AMD Pirate Islands Radeon R9 300 Series

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 04/10/2014 07:42 AM | source: | 38 comment(s)

The colleagues over at WccfTech posted something about the next generation Radeon graphics cards. They dug up an old (what is claimed to be) roadmap which shows details about three GPUs, the R9 390X, R9 380X and R9 370X. There is no validation regarding the source material and their post is highly speculative. Then again .. rumors always start somewhere and props to them for retrieving that info.

Now in their news item posted they already claim themselves that all information is to be taken with a pinch of salt, which really is the proper way to address this information.

The source leak indicates future Pirate Islands GPU code names and some specs. Specs NEVER are final which makes me frown up-on the posted material, anyway here's what they are claiming:

According to these details all GPUs will be based on the TSMC 20nm Node and will be true Pirate Island cores, which is why nomenclature of the dies will be derivative in nature. Another thing mentioned is that all Pirate Island GPUs will have the DirectX 12 Hardware Feature Set. According to these details the R9 370X is slated for announcement/arrival sometime this July-August this year. The R9 370X will feature a ‘Treasure Island XTX’ core and supposedly has 1536 Stream-processors, 96 Texture Units and 48 ROPs on the uncut die. Of course this road-map precedes the report we got of TSMC having a little trouble with 20nm so I am not sure how valid the time frame is anymore.

Now according to the details, we will see the R9 390X before the R9 380X. The R9 390X will feature the ‘Bermuda XTX’ core and feature a staggeringly high number of SPs, ie. 4224. The Texture Unit count is 264 with 96 ROPs. It is slated to show up late 2014 around November or so. Once again keep in mind the TSMC comment above. Finally the R9 380X which will feature the ‘Fiji XTX’ core and the following die configuration: 3072 SPs, 192 Texture Units and 72 ROPs and should appear sometime early 2015. Now interestingly the R9 390X ‘Bermuda XTX’ GPU is slated to have 512 Bits of Memory Bandwidth while as the R9 380X is slated to have 384 Bits with the R9 370X coming last with 256 Bits. Now the road-map even hints at the clock speeds of AMD’s future GPUs but I think it is prudent to mention that all these tech specs at this point in time are about as solid as the wind. However let us continue, with the help of this table:

GPU	Codename	Core	Stream Processors*	Texture Units*	ROPs*	Core Clock*	Memory Clock*	Memory Bandwidth*
R9 370X	Treasure Island	Treasure Island XTX	1536	96	48	~900Mhz	~5Ghz	256Bit
R9 380X	Fiji	Fiji XTX	3072	192	72	~900Mhz	~6Ghz	384Bit
R9 390X	Bermuda	Bermuda XTX	4224	264	96	~1000Mhz	~7Ghz	512Bit

* Values are not indicative of the final product.

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Elite3540
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#4798309 Posted on: 04/10/2014 10:13 AM

The 390X Bermuda looks like a beast!

Thanks for sharing.

Illnino
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#4798345 Posted on: 04/10/2014 11:14 AM

Man thats alot of SP on 1 die, but hey if they can pull it off i think ill pick one up.

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#4798385 Posted on: 04/10/2014 12:27 PM

96 ROPs

Damn they really are going for the 4K market.

How the hell are they going to feed that?

Hari_Seldon
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#4798449 Posted on: 04/10/2014 02:13 PM

AMD isn't limited to just TSMC. lol

AMD also has a deal with GloFo for GPUs... So, if TSMC can't put out GPUs for them, AMD can simply fall back to GloFo.

Is GlobalFoundries ready to make 20nm GPUs?

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#4798454 Posted on: 04/10/2014 02:29 PM

AMD isn't limited to just TSMC. lol

AMD also has a deal with GloFo for GPUs... So, if TSMC can't put out GPUs for them, AMD can simply fall back to GloFo.

I dont see them use only Glofo for gpu's ... I believe Glofo is more enclined to produce SOC, Nand in 14-16nm FinFet instead, just for grab as many money and marketshare possible..

Now we know that TSMC seems have some delay for mass production of 20nm ( high performance, we are not speaking about SOC ) ..

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#4798461 Posted on: 04/10/2014 02:54 PM

I dont see them use only Glofo for gpu's ... I believe Glofo is more enclined to produce SOC, Nand in 14-16nm FinFet instead, just for grab as many money and marketshare possible..

Now we know that TSMC seems have some delay for mass production of 20nm ( high performance, we are not speaking about SOC ) ..

I saw on YT video from HW dev. conference where guy from TSMC showed their new roadmap and talked about High performance 20nm was not good enough (very small difference to low power draw tech) and basically there is no special high performance 20nm on TSMC (one tech. which scales power draw based on clocks), should be back with 14/16nm FinFET.

So 20nm TSMC will not bring maximum and therefore performance bump will be pretty nice with 14/16nm.

As for GloFo I am not sure here, but they should be capable to make similarly clocked GPUs as those present in APUs are decent overclockers even on 28nm. Proper question would be:
"What kind of power consumption we can expect from GloFo chips?" (because I have not seen any kind of measurement based on GPU in APU)

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#4798508 Posted on: 04/10/2014 04:02 PM

I use NVidia cards but gotta tell yea, AMD, stepping it up with performance while also keeping the compute side and bitcoin mining. Both companies have some serious awesomeness all around

. Debating though..... grab a second GTX 780 Gaming edition, save a bit more and see how the 880 does, or see how the 390x does...... hmmm......

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#4798514 Posted on: 04/10/2014 04:18 PM

I use NVidia cards but gotta tell yea, AMD, stepping it up with performance while also keeping the compute side and bitcoin mining. Both companies have some serious awesomeness all around

. Debating though..... grab a second GTX 780 Gaming edition, save a bit more and see how the 880 does, or see how the 390x does...... hmmm......

Second 780 and wait for Pascal or the successor to Pirate Islands.

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#4798517 Posted on: 04/10/2014 04:23 PM

Second 780 and wait for Pascal or the successor to Pirate Islands.

Yea that's what I was thinking. I just tend to not go SLI but to buy the newest GFX card of the year. 580 when it came out, 680 when it came out and now 780. I'll have to think about it though. Thanks for the reply.

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#4798557 Posted on: 04/10/2014 05:27 PM

Tbh if the 880 is real in the other thread it stands no chance against 390x O.o really noway it can stand a chance. Everyone of these is just speculation and we will see both camps delivering real stuff late 2014 or early 2015

I shall get second 290x once new stuff hits the stores

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#4798581 Posted on: 04/10/2014 06:20 PM

Yea seriously that 390x looks sharp. What 290x you got?

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#4798596 Posted on: 04/10/2014 06:55 PM

Can Be Announced This Summer ?

During the CeBIT 2014, Heise (German Web) suggested that AMD can release the first video line of Pirate Islands (20 nm) in August this year. It is because Nvidia is getting the advantages on AMD in the battle of the video cards.

On the other hand ASCII (Japanese Web) expects announcement of the new Radeon R9 370X in July this year. Supposedly, It will operates with 1536 stream processors, 256-bit memory bus and GDDR5 memory chips with an effective frequency of 5 GHz. Graphics core will be clocked at 900 MHz. Among other things it will support DirectX 12.

In October 2014 will be released Radeon R9 390X (Bermuda XTX) with 4224 shader and 512-bit memory bus. Frequency formula will be as follows: 1 GHz GPU chip and 7 GHz for memory chips. Later on, in early 2015, debuts of the Radeon R9 380X, aka Fuji XTX. In the arsenal of new items will be 3072 stream processors, 384-bit memory bus and chips GDDR5.Exemplary operating frequencies R9 380X make 900/6000 MHz.

http://extremespec.net/amd-pirate-islands-announced-summer/

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#4798864 Posted on: 04/11/2014 02:05 AM

The 390X looks like a monstrous gpu and I can't wait to see its performance.. :thumbup:

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#4799737 Posted on: 04/12/2014 08:14 PM

Nice find Rich_Guy

...my shiny new MSI 290X Gaming is starting to feel very short lived... and I've not even gotten round to trying to OC it yet lol

Some of those 4K monitors are starting to sound like realistic prospects suddenly ^^

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#4799797 Posted on: 04/12/2014 10:37 PM

Cracking cards those MSi Gamings

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