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AMD NAVI would see three video card models, $249 RX 3080 close to RTX 2070
Quite a bit of information leaked onto the web over the last day or so, whether or not that information is correct remains to be seen. However, more info surfaced and it entails the pending GPU launch from AMD, based on 7nm NAVI.
Youtuber AdoredTV once again spreads out quite a bit of information about the next generation Zen processors (Ryzen 3000 ZEN2) however at the end of the video the end of the video, the Youtuber spreads word about another leak regarding AMD's future GPUs, codenamed Navi.
If the information is correct this line-up will exist out of three graphics card series to replace the current Polaris generation mainly. The naming would be 'RX 3000 series', opposed to RX 600. We'll quickly take you through the three products.
The Radeon RX 3060 would be the entry-level card and would have 4 GB GDDR6. Here I have reason to doubt, GDDR6 is a new type of memory that is very fast and new always is expensive. it would make little sense to include it onto an entry-level product So that raises a red flag as far as I am concerned. The product would sit in the $130 range
The second product would be the Radeon RX 3070, which replaces the RX 570. It would operate at Vega 56 performance at merely a TDPof 120 watts. IT gets 8 GB GDDR6 and would costs at $200 at minimum.
The higher end card would be the RX 3080, and also has 8 GB of GDDR6. At 150 watts it would be about 15% faster than the Vega 64 which is RTX 2070 territory. This card is tagged at $ 250 (which seems too cheap to be true).
We cannot vouch for the info that is spread, and as mentioned I do see red flags here. So as to what extent and how valid this information is we cannot tell. So please read and absorb this with a super big disclaimer in mind, the info could be incorrect. Extreme caution is recommended.
It is likely we'll hear a bit more in January from the CEO of AMD, Lisa Su, at CES.
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#5614305 Posted on: 12/06/2018 12:06 PM
I m playing world of wordcraft at 100fps most of the time, at 1080p with an old gtx 770 4gb.
There are tons of people that game at 1080p and that bought a 1060 6gb very expensive and that would maybe do a little upgrade.
Competing on high end if you do not have the right product is useless, and also you cannot stay too much time without pushing out something or people will forget about you.
This navi is a welcome thing, and there is still crossfire eventually.
I m playing world of wordcraft at 100fps most of the time, at 1080p with an old gtx 770 4gb.
There are tons of people that game at 1080p and that bought a 1060 6gb very expensive and that would maybe do a little upgrade.
Competing on high end if you do not have the right product is useless, and also you cannot stay too much time without pushing out something or people will forget about you.
This navi is a welcome thing, and there is still crossfire eventually.
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#5614306 Posted on: 12/06/2018 12:07 PM
Yes, I know I'm not necessarily in AMD's focus group. Makes it only easier to think AMD's offerings as what they are, good, but not for everybody it's the holy grail. Also, I was referring to @Noufel 's post, where he exactly seems to have a hard time to acknowledge what you say (and the truth in it).
Did you see the prices on these cards? You are not in their target market. Price-insensitive gamers who want the absolute maximum performance are a small minority. For most of the world even an RX580 is "top range" and something like a 2070-80 is the stuff of dreams only.
Yes, I know I'm not necessarily in AMD's focus group. Makes it only easier to think AMD's offerings as what they are, good, but not for everybody it's the holy grail. Also, I was referring to @Noufel 's post, where he exactly seems to have a hard time to acknowledge what you say (and the truth in it).
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#5614307 Posted on: 12/06/2018 12:07 PM
Haha I love it! AMD going in dry!
Haha I love it! AMD going in dry!
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#5614310 Posted on: 12/06/2018 12:12 PM
I'm not saying they need to release something to compete with the next Titan, i'm saying they need release something to compete with 2080/2080Ti, at least as fast as 2080, and possibly not far from 2080Ti, and that's not 1-2% it's 10-15% of the market actually.
Why should they care about 1-2% of the market? Its not where the money is.
I'm not saying they need to release something to compete with the next Titan, i'm saying they need release something to compete with 2080/2080Ti, at least as fast as 2080, and possibly not far from 2080Ti, and that's not 1-2% it's 10-15% of the market actually.
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#5614312 Posted on: 12/06/2018 12:13 PM
This all sounds a little sceptical to me.
The name of the cards 3060 3070 3080 really?
Somehow just doesn't ring true
This all sounds a little sceptical to me.
The name of the cards 3060 3070 3080 really?
Somehow just doesn't ring true
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#5614316 Posted on: 12/06/2018 12:23 PM
Links to backup your claim? The 1080ti which has been in circulation for a couple years is less than 2%.
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
I'm not saying they need to release something to compete with the next Titan, i'm saying they need release something to compete with 2080/2080Ti, at least as fast as 2080, and possibly not far from 2080Ti, and that's not 1-2% it's 10-15% of the market actually.
Links to backup your claim? The 1080ti which has been in circulation for a couple years is less than 2%.
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
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#5614317 Posted on: 12/06/2018 12:24 PM
This all sounds a little sceptical to me.
The name of the cards 3060 3070 3080 really?
Somehow just doesn't ring true
Forget the name of the cards. Doubt that aspect of it is true.
This all sounds a little sceptical to me.
The name of the cards 3060 3070 3080 really?
Somehow just doesn't ring true
Forget the name of the cards. Doubt that aspect of it is true.
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#5614318 Posted on: 12/06/2018 12:26 PM
Zen 2 + Navi = Gamer's dream
Zen 2 + Navi = Gamer's dream
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#5614319 Posted on: 12/06/2018 12:34 PM
Links to backup your claim? The 1080ti which has been in circulation for a couple years is less than 2%.
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
Oh so steam reflects 100% the usage of the videocard you think? Don't fool yourself. Sales reflect that, not steam, which isn't something everyone use, especially in asia. Cards such as 1080-1080Ti take up to 10 to 15% of the sales, and that's based on logic. There's no doubt 1050 to 1070 take the biggest chunk of the market, but that's not 99 or 98% of it, otherwise 9 people out of 10 i ask would have that, and that doesn't happen.
Links to backup your claim? The 1080ti which has been in circulation for a couple years is less than 2%.
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
Oh so steam reflects 100% the usage of the videocard you think? Don't fool yourself. Sales reflect that, not steam, which isn't something everyone use, especially in asia. Cards such as 1080-1080Ti take up to 10 to 15% of the sales, and that's based on logic. There's no doubt 1050 to 1070 take the biggest chunk of the market, but that's not 99 or 98% of it, otherwise 9 people out of 10 i ask would have that, and that doesn't happen.
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#5614323 Posted on: 12/06/2018 12:51 PM
" however at the end of the video the end of the video"
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Yeah, the pricing doesn't seems right, at least not for the time of the supposed announcement
" however at the end of the video the end of the video"
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Yeah, the pricing doesn't seems right, at least not for the time of the supposed announcement
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#5614326 Posted on: 12/06/2018 01:00 PM
It is important to compete in the high-end, for a matter of market perception. The brand who have the top performance products, is more likely to sell the rest of the range better!
That's why AMD is stuck on 20%~25% of market share, despite having good cards in the mid-range for a few years now! Competing only in the mid-range is not enough to gain meaningful market share.
So, i don't know why some people think that high-end is not important. If it's not important, why AMD don't get traction? And please, spare me the excuse that this happen because people are all Nvidia fanboys.
It is important to compete in the high-end, for a matter of market perception. The brand who have the top performance products, is more likely to sell the rest of the range better!
That's why AMD is stuck on 20%~25% of market share, despite having good cards in the mid-range for a few years now! Competing only in the mid-range is not enough to gain meaningful market share.
So, i don't know why some people think that high-end is not important. If it's not important, why AMD don't get traction? And please, spare me the excuse that this happen because people are all Nvidia fanboys.
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#5614328 Posted on: 12/06/2018 01:02 PM
You are confusing what enthusiast owners in forums like here may own vs the larger market. Again, you have yet to back up your claims with links or stats, your mere logic or assumptions do not apply.
Oh so steam reflects 100% the usage of the videocard you think? Don't fool yourself. Sales reflect that, not steam, which isn't something everyone use, especially in asia. Cards such as 1080-1080Ti take up to 10 to 15% of the sales, and that's based on logic. There's no doubt 1050 to 1070 take the biggest chunk of the market, but that's not 99 or 98% of it, otherwise 9 people out of 10 i ask would have that, and that doesn't happen.
You are confusing what enthusiast owners in forums like here may own vs the larger market. Again, you have yet to back up your claims with links or stats, your mere logic or assumptions do not apply.
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#5614329 Posted on: 12/06/2018 01:05 PM
Yes, that is true. Whoever leads in the top performing high end segment benefits from the trickle-down effect in sales. But the high end in itself remains a very low percentage of total card sales.
It is important to compete in the high-end, for a matter of market perception. The brand who have the top performance products, is more likely to sell the rest of the range better!
Yes, that is true. Whoever leads in the top performing high end segment benefits from the trickle-down effect in sales. But the high end in itself remains a very low percentage of total card sales.
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#5614330 Posted on: 12/06/2018 01:06 PM
RX 3080 is the 580 replacement. It's about the same MSRP as the 580 was.
If this news holds up, these will rake the mid-GPU sector.
Price they are sold at may be a bit higher as we have always seen.
RX 3080 is the 580 replacement. It's about the same MSRP as the 580 was.
If this news holds up, these will rake the mid-GPU sector.
Price they are sold at may be a bit higher as we have always seen.
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Sure, nice performance at $250 if true, but it is slower than what I bought 17 months ago, so it is quite hard to care.
The OG 1080 was released almost 3 years ago, and Navi barely beats it. Very-very late to the party.
On the other hand if they could put 2 of these on a card like back in the old days, and this could get interesting.