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Guru3D.com » News » AMD might move to Samsung for 3nm fabrication due to TSMCs preference for Apple

AMD might move to Samsung for 3nm fabrication due to TSMCs preference for Apple

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 11/19/2021 03:16 PM | source: hd-tecnologia.com | 32 comment(s)
AMD might move to Samsung for 3nm fabrication due to TSMCs preference for Apple

AMD's current CPUs and GPUs are manufactured by the Taiwan-based semiconductor giant TSMC, however, the company might swing towards Samsung when it comes to producing 3nm chips. 

TSMC is increasingly reserving more and more wafers for Apple who opened up a huge sack of cash to gain p[priority. And TSMC is doing exactly that, prioritizing reserving wafers created under future manufacturing methods such as 3nm, the amount of wafers left available for AMD seems to be insufficient in relation to demand. The corporation feels compelled to shift suppliers in order to meet their requirements.

 

 This year TSMC reserved the majority of 5nm capacity to Apple as well

 

AMD is not the only business that is displeased with TSMC's resource allocation procedures. Qualcomm would be in a similar situation and would have participated in the discussions with Samsung to determine whether they could supply a number of chips greater than what TSMC could deliver, which, as in the case of AMD, was insufficient to meet the demand. of your clients. If Samsung Foundry, the division of the South Korean company in charge of semiconductor manufacturing, has sufficient capacity to meet the demands of AMD and Qualcomm, this transfer of two industry giants could result in a significant increase in the company's revenue as a result of the transfer of two giants. We do not know whether Samsung planned such a large amount of capacity for its 3nm chip factories as a result of not having a large number of clients, but we will undoubtedly learn more about this in the course of next year as more information becomes available. about these possible agreements, which is obviously a great mystery at least publicly.

For the time being, all of this information is based on hearsay though, so we recommend that you treat it with caution. According to official expectations, both AMD and Qualcomm will continue to collaborate with TSMC, however this report makes a lot of sense in light of recent actions by the Taiwanese foundry business to emphasize Apple, which is the company's most important customer.







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Noisiv
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#5966767 Posted on: 11/21/2021 05:06 PM
way to cherrypick data which does not include the CPU's (which vastly outsell gpus)
i'm not talking about GPUs i'm talking total fab output.
that's what is material and on topic

I am sorry If you think that I am cherry picking.
Here... I made a chart. It's pretty self-explanatory.



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#5966772 Posted on: 11/21/2021 05:19 PM
I am sorry If you think that I am cherry picking.
Here... I made a chart. It's pretty self-explanatory.




yeah you just killed your own argument/statement re:Nvidia

Noisiv
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#5966777 Posted on: 11/21/2021 05:44 PM
yeah you just killed your own argument/statement re:Nvidia


What are you talking about?

Look its pretty simple:

Nvidia has been given 21% just for Pro GPUs.
Meanwhile AMD has been allotted 27% to produce EVERYTHING they are selling. That looks like anything but AMD having some sort of special relations with TSMC. And that's in comparison with runaway Nvidia.

Compared to Apple: They are given 1/10 of Apple's 5nm.

What are you even arguing here? Or arguing against?

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#5966845 Posted on: 11/21/2021 10:51 PM
What are you talking about?

Look its pretty simple:

Nvidia has been given 21% just for Pro GPUs.
Meanwhile AMD has been allotted 27% to produce EVERYTHING they are selling. That looks like anything but AMD having some sort of special relations with TSMC. And that's in comparison with runaway Nvidia.

Compared to Apple: They are given 1/10 of Apple's 5nm.

What are you even arguing here? Or arguing against?
Apple was TSMCs main 7nm customer in the early stages of the node but moved off to 5nm. AMD also increased their 7nm due to spare capacity from Mediateks reduced orders (due to Huawei's penalization by U.S. regulations). If Apple had still been active on 7nm, they would have shrunk AMDs position drastically. But they are always one step/node ahead of the others due to $$$. They outbid everyone else for production space for newest nodes.They left 7nm behind to move forward. Thats why the others show larger positions on the 7nm chart.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-overtakes-Apple-as-TSMC-s-main-7nm-customer.528532.0.html

Noisiv
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#5966853 Posted on: 11/21/2021 11:38 PM
@alanm
yeah of course. but tunejunky thinks AMD is the Apple (of TSMC's eye :D)

Despite AMD being given only few % more of 7nm than NV, yet AMD's entire product range (CPU/GPU/consoles) is on 7nm.
Meanwhile runaway Nvidia has been 'punished' by being given 21% of 7nm for... wait for it... FOR ONE(1) chip, ie GA-100.

And when I say 'punished' - remember those stupid early stories about TSMC punishing NV for going to Samsung :rolleyes:
Some punishment - being given as much capacity for
ONE(1) CHIP
as their 'most valued partner' (AMD) has been given for their ENTIRE production.

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