AMD mentions Vega Enthusiast GPUs to be released H1 2017

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 08/27/2016 02:36 PM | source: | 61 comment(s)

An intersting spot, in a recent AMD investor presentation of August 2016 there is a mention of 'Vega' for the enthusiast market in the slides, with a launch date set at 1H 2017. That could be Vega 11.

1H 2017 would mean first half of 2017. Now we know there will be multiple Vega (Vega 10 and Vega 11) based products so that is an interesting spot alright as AMD originally was supposed to launch their high-end class VEGA (codename) product in early 2017, as it now seems that launch is being moved forward towards October.

"Vega10" is lined up to replace the 390/490 series. "Vega11" will replace the FIJI / Fury parts. Rumors right now indicate that Vega10 has 4096 stream processors and could compete with the GeForce GTX 1080 and GTX 1070. Vega11 (thus that launches 2017 1H would feature 6144 stream processors and would be lined against the GP100 big pascal GPU (think Titan).

The new info on VEGA 11 can be spotted in this presentation.

AMD decided to pull the launch of its next big silicon, Vega10 from early-2017 launch to October 2016 (that is still a rumor though). Vega10 would be the GPU that replaces the Hawaii/Grenada series, perhaps with GDDR5X memory ? If so, Vega11 could be the enthusiast class HBM2 memory product that releases in 2017.

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Noisiv
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#5327068 Posted on: 08/27/2016 02:07 PM

1H means June-July for AMD (i think)

usually it does, but ...hmm..
if it was 1-3, why not call it q1

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#5327072 Posted on: 08/27/2016 02:31 PM

1H means June-July for AMD (i think).

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-mentions-vega-enthusiast-to-be-released-h1-2017.html

AMD: Investor Presentation August 2016 (slides)

https://app.scoutfin.com/document.html?id=57c01d11fcd1d0bb759fd048&_branch_match_id=297670879870932296

Yes it means June and productions starts in Q1 this is the reason why companies say 1H.

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#5327101 Posted on: 08/27/2016 03:42 PM

by then i'm sure nvidia will have an answer for it but i will not buy another nvidia product again.

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#5327133 Posted on: 08/27/2016 05:05 PM

I am thinking since it is going to be a year from now. It will be a bigger change in arch then Polaris.

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#5327141 Posted on: 08/27/2016 05:21 PM

I am thinking since it is going to be a year from now. It will be a bigger change in arch then Polaris.

But it's taking too long. Vega should sweep the fool with Pascal or they're in big trouble when next gen cards from NVIDIA come out. I'm kinda starting to wonder why they even bothered to release Polaris. Just a die shrinked Hawaii would have been the same, more or less.

usually it does, but ...hmm..
if it was 1-3, why not call it q1

I guess the reason is exactly that. They might just about manage to release it in 1H time window.

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#5327142 Posted on: 08/27/2016 05:21 PM

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#5327157 Posted on: 08/27/2016 05:54 PM

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#5327195 Posted on: 08/27/2016 07:56 PM

Summer 2017 is far too late...

If we assume Vega 11 is 50% larger Vega 10 which we already know to be 64 CUs then we're talking around 15tflop at 1200mhz. That's basically an overclocked Titan X, one year late.

I dont know why but i got the feeling that the small vega will be released in October along with Battlefield 1 Launch "its just a hunch" , but even if what you said reveals to be true , it aint that bad "an overclocked titan x" one year later
with a lil difference , i doubt that big vega will cost 1200$.
maybe within the first half they will release the entire lineup.

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#5327199 Posted on: 08/27/2016 08:14 PM

Well I was honestly hoping AMD had a plan, and so far it seems like bull****. Just wait guys. Just keep waiting. We are going to kill Nvidia some day.

Not really. Nvidia is just too far ahead, with the better engineers in the business and a strong marketing team. AMD is all but done in the high-end market, which is why they should really concentrate on the lower end market and try to survive.

So far IDK. I just don't see why people would want something without the Nvidia features because AMD has so far not shown any reason to. The only idiots that will crossover from Nvidia are people that are so mad they wanna hurt themselves. Simply no way in hell I am sacking PhysX, Inspector, and Gameworks just so I can try out a hotter AMD card lol.

Maybe something like overall power would matter if they ever released a card with more power and efficiency than Nvidia. That will be the day.

At any rate they are getting skunked right now. Nvidia surely has other cards coming next year and there is no way AMD makes any gains here.

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#5327200 Posted on: 08/27/2016 08:19 PM

Summer 2017 is far too late...

If we assume Vega 11 is 50% larger Vega 10 which we already know to be 64 CUs then we're talking around 15tflop at 1200mhz. That's basically an overclocked Titan X, one year late.
@ $1500 +13% tax CND I don't care if the TITAN X had come out in 2015

http://www.ncix.com/detail/pny-geforce-gtx-titan-x-76-128292.htm

no sale here so buy as many as you can before they go oos where you live.
and for me money is not a issue ,

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#5327203 Posted on: 08/27/2016 08:38 PM

wasted

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#5327204 Posted on: 08/27/2016 08:38 PM

Sadly by then so many people bought a new gpu that it will give a massive marketshare to Nvivida once again...

I was willing to wait for this holiday / Q1 at the most but summer next year is not going to happen...

AMD have missed a whole lot of people in the high end department this year that wanted to upgrade from 290 / 290x /390 / 390x fury / fury x/ 970 / 980 / 980ti that are looking to switch to AMD or just want to upgrade and waited what AMD had in store.

1070 and 1080 will sell a fcton this year and the next -_-

Big big oppertunity missed for AMD and a great loss to regain that much needed marketshare.

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#5327217 Posted on: 08/27/2016 09:43 PM

That's not the interesting part of the presentation to me, rather this:

Returning to high performance computing with “Summit Ridge” shipping in volume in Q1 2017 for desktop and notebook offerings to follow in 2H 2017

Basically, nothing for laptops for a long time.

And as for the console people, here is an idea of the revenue for AMD from consoles:

Incremental design wins secured amounting to $1.5B over the next 3 to 4 years—Microsoft’s Project Scorpio

Though the bright side is that it looks like they are focusing on the server/datacenter/cloud market primarily.. finally.

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#5327235 Posted on: 08/27/2016 10:20 PM

If AMD can keep things going in new titles like they have with Doom Vulkan and Deus Ex MD things really aren't looking that bad at all. We're seeing in some titles Fury X sitting between 1070 and 1080 and RX480 between 1060 and 1070. Obviously Titan X(P) is in a whole different league, but the pricing makes it somewhat of an outlier.

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#5327237 Posted on: 08/27/2016 10:27 PM

1H aka end of first half -> June ... IF they don't delay again

Even if Vega will greatly outperform 1070/1080 (I doubt so):
1) Nvidia will have pretty much the exclusive on high end cards for a whole year (!)
2) By June 2017 Nvidia will already have an answer to Vega imho (1080ti)

As a happy 290 owner I was waiting for Vega to upgrade, but at this point I might as well get a 1070... the only thing that has held me back has been the price, but if Vega is so far away, I don't see Pascal prices dropping anytime soon... might as well buy now.

Shame :/

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