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AMD mentions Vega Enthusiast GPUs to be released H1 2017
An intersting spot, in a recent AMD investor presentation of August 2016 there is a mention of 'Vega' for the enthusiast market in the slides, with a launch date set at 1H 2017. That could be Vega 11.
1H 2017 would mean first half of 2017. Now we know there will be multiple Vega (Vega 10 and Vega 11) based products so that is an interesting spot alright as AMD originally was supposed to launch their high-end class VEGA (codename) product in early 2017, as it now seems that launch is being moved forward towards October.
"Vega10" is lined up to replace the 390/490 series. "Vega11" will replace the FIJI / Fury parts. Rumors right now indicate that Vega10 has 4096 stream processors and could compete with the GeForce GTX 1080 and GTX 1070. Vega11 (thus that launches 2017 1H would feature 6144 stream processors and would be lined against the GP100 big pascal GPU (think Titan).
The new info on VEGA 11 can be spotted in this presentation.
AMD decided to pull the launch of its next big silicon, Vega10 from early-2017 launch to October 2016 (that is still a rumor though). Vega10 would be the GPU that replaces the Hawaii/Grenada series, perhaps with GDDR5X memory ? If so, Vega11 could be the enthusiast class HBM2 memory product that releases in 2017.
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#5327495 Posted on: 08/28/2016 06:15 PM
AMD wouldn't go out of business, someone would buy them. I can also only think of one or two games that have been "broken" and with Batman I'm not convinced that it was Gameworks. What other games are there? You can say Witcher 3, but AMD fixed HW performance with a driver update that reduced tessellation. You can say Project Cars, but AMD didn't submit anything to the game developer for almost a year before launch.
R6 Siege has Gameworks stuff, runs great on both AMD & Nvidia. The Division has Gameworks stuff, runs great on both AMD & Nvidia. Deus Ex has both PhysX and Flex and it runs better on AMD than Nvidia. How do you explain these titles? Is Gameworks only gimping some games and not others, or is game development just more complex then most people on guru3d are willing to admit?
Only thing hindering performance on either camp is poor coding by devs or 0 help from amd/nvidia. Imo.
AMD wouldn't go out of business, someone would buy them. I can also only think of one or two games that have been "broken" and with Batman I'm not convinced that it was Gameworks. What other games are there? You can say Witcher 3, but AMD fixed HW performance with a driver update that reduced tessellation. You can say Project Cars, but AMD didn't submit anything to the game developer for almost a year before launch.
R6 Siege has Gameworks stuff, runs great on both AMD & Nvidia. The Division has Gameworks stuff, runs great on both AMD & Nvidia. Deus Ex has both PhysX and Flex and it runs better on AMD than Nvidia. How do you explain these titles? Is Gameworks only gimping some games and not others, or is game development just more complex then most people on guru3d are willing to admit?
Only thing hindering performance on either camp is poor coding by devs or 0 help from amd/nvidia. Imo.
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#5327502 Posted on: 08/28/2016 06:54 PM
I find you very offensive and just plain wrong as every point you've made favouring Nvidia is silly. You can't reinforce your opinions with ad hominem attacks without your self sounding like a uninformed moron.
The only idiots that will crossover from Nvidia are people that are so mad they wanna hurt themselves. Simply no way in hell I am sacking PhysX, Inspector, and Gameworks just so I can try out a hotter AMD card lol.
I find you very offensive and just plain wrong as every point you've made favouring Nvidia is silly. You can't reinforce your opinions with ad hominem attacks without your self sounding like a uninformed moron.
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#5327508 Posted on: 08/28/2016 07:18 PM
They ARE NOT selling point features. They are features, that when you buy into the ecosystem, MOST NEVER want to go back and be without them if someone values graphics.
Big different there. And since when has AMD ever shown, like ever, that they are even close to Nvidia when it comes to watt/perf?
Most, don't even know Inspector exists. Most, don't actually care about PhysX. Most, know nothing about Gameworks. You're trying to project what you think you know about enthusiasts onto the rest of the market. The majority of the market would prefer to see open-platform, vendor agnostic features than vendor specific.
They ARE NOT selling point features. They are features, that when you buy into the ecosystem, MOST NEVER want to go back and be without them if someone values graphics.
Big different there. And since when has AMD ever shown, like ever, that they are even close to Nvidia when it comes to watt/perf?
Most, don't even know Inspector exists. Most, don't actually care about PhysX. Most, know nothing about Gameworks. You're trying to project what you think you know about enthusiasts onto the rest of the market. The majority of the market would prefer to see open-platform, vendor agnostic features than vendor specific.
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#5327585 Posted on: 08/29/2016 12:49 AM
Err, I don't think the majority of the market even cares about open-platform etc either tbh if you're talking consumers.
The majority market care about games working and not crashing, fast loading, looks good, fun to play. Anything else is only talked about by enthusiasts.
The majority of the market would prefer to see open-platform, vendor agnostic features than vendor specific.
Err, I don't think the majority of the market even cares about open-platform etc either tbh if you're talking consumers.
The majority market care about games working and not crashing, fast loading, looks good, fun to play. Anything else is only talked about by enthusiasts.
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SWEET!
Thee more I wait, the more powerful GPU I will be able to buy. + I also save moneys.
I cant possibly lose...
win/win situation right there. I just bought this 980ti from a friend so it will carry me over to whatever comes 2017 easy