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AMD mentions Vega Enthusiast GPUs to be released H1 2017
An intersting spot, in a recent AMD investor presentation of August 2016 there is a mention of 'Vega' for the enthusiast market in the slides, with a launch date set at 1H 2017. That could be Vega 11.
1H 2017 would mean first half of 2017. Now we know there will be multiple Vega (Vega 10 and Vega 11) based products so that is an interesting spot alright as AMD originally was supposed to launch their high-end class VEGA (codename) product in early 2017, as it now seems that launch is being moved forward towards October.
"Vega10" is lined up to replace the 390/490 series. "Vega11" will replace the FIJI / Fury parts. Rumors right now indicate that Vega10 has 4096 stream processors and could compete with the GeForce GTX 1080 and GTX 1070. Vega11 (thus that launches 2017 1H would feature 6144 stream processors and would be lined against the GP100 big pascal GPU (think Titan).
The new info on VEGA 11 can be spotted in this presentation.
AMD decided to pull the launch of its next big silicon, Vega10 from early-2017 launch to October 2016 (that is still a rumor though). Vega10 would be the GPU that replaces the Hawaii/Grenada series, perhaps with GDDR5X memory ? If so, Vega11 could be the enthusiast class HBM2 memory product that releases in 2017.
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#5327217 Posted on: 08/27/2016 10:43 PM
That's not the interesting part of the presentation to me, rather this:
Basically, nothing for laptops for a long time.
And as for the console people, here is an idea of the revenue for AMD from consoles:
Though the bright side is that it looks like they are focusing on the server/datacenter/cloud market primarily.. finally.
That's not the interesting part of the presentation to me, rather this:
Returning to high performance computing with “Summit Ridge” shipping in volume in Q1 2017 for desktop and notebook offerings to follow in 2H 2017
Basically, nothing for laptops for a long time.
And as for the console people, here is an idea of the revenue for AMD from consoles:
Incremental design wins secured amounting to $1.5B over the next 3 to 4 years—Microsoft’s Project Scorpio
Though the bright side is that it looks like they are focusing on the server/datacenter/cloud market primarily.. finally.
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#5327235 Posted on: 08/27/2016 11:20 PM
If AMD can keep things going in new titles like they have with Doom Vulkan and Deus Ex MD things really aren't looking that bad at all. We're seeing in some titles Fury X sitting between 1070 and 1080 and RX480 between 1060 and 1070. Obviously Titan X(P) is in a whole different league, but the pricing makes it somewhat of an outlier.
If AMD can keep things going in new titles like they have with Doom Vulkan and Deus Ex MD things really aren't looking that bad at all. We're seeing in some titles Fury X sitting between 1070 and 1080 and RX480 between 1060 and 1070. Obviously Titan X(P) is in a whole different league, but the pricing makes it somewhat of an outlier.
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#5327237 Posted on: 08/27/2016 11:27 PM
1H aka end of first half -> June ... IF they don't delay again
Even if Vega will greatly outperform 1070/1080 (I doubt so):
1) Nvidia will have pretty much the exclusive on high end cards for a whole year (!)
2) By June 2017 Nvidia will already have an answer to Vega imho (1080ti)
As a happy 290 owner I was waiting for Vega to upgrade, but at this point I might as well get a 1070... the only thing that has held me back has been the price, but if Vega is so far away, I don't see Pascal prices dropping anytime soon... might as well buy now.
Shame :/
1H aka end of first half -> June ... IF they don't delay again
Even if Vega will greatly outperform 1070/1080 (I doubt so):
1) Nvidia will have pretty much the exclusive on high end cards for a whole year (!)
2) By June 2017 Nvidia will already have an answer to Vega imho (1080ti)
As a happy 290 owner I was waiting for Vega to upgrade, but at this point I might as well get a 1070... the only thing that has held me back has been the price, but if Vega is so far away, I don't see Pascal prices dropping anytime soon... might as well buy now.
Shame :/
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#5327247 Posted on: 08/28/2016 12:11 AM
Those features aren't selling points for everyone. Personally, I really couldn't care less about PhysX. I haven't touched Inspector since I move away from SLI and Gameworks support isn't a game breaker either. Every cross platform game is going to have to be optimized for AMD hardware anyway since XBox One and PS4 both use AMD hardware. If the devs remove any optimizations specific to AMD hardware from cross-platform games, AMD has legal recourse against them unless the devs can prove that such optimizations will break the game. How many devs are going to risk it?
So far IDK. I just don't see why people would want something without the Nvidia features because AMD has so far not shown any reason to. The only idiots that will crossover from Nvidia are people that are so mad they wanna hurt themselves. Simply no way in hell I am sacking PhysX, Inspector, and Gameworks just so I can try out a hotter AMD card lol.
Those features aren't selling points for everyone. Personally, I really couldn't care less about PhysX. I haven't touched Inspector since I move away from SLI and Gameworks support isn't a game breaker either. Every cross platform game is going to have to be optimized for AMD hardware anyway since XBox One and PS4 both use AMD hardware. If the devs remove any optimizations specific to AMD hardware from cross-platform games, AMD has legal recourse against them unless the devs can prove that such optimizations will break the game. How many devs are going to risk it?
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Sadly by then so many people bought a new gpu that it will give a massive marketshare to Nvivida once again...
I was willing to wait for this holiday / Q1 at the most but summer next year is not going to happen...
AMD have missed a whole lot of people in the high end department this year that wanted to upgrade from 290 / 290x /390 / 390x fury / fury x/ 970 / 980 / 980ti that are looking to switch to AMD or just want to upgrade and waited what AMD had in store.
1070 and 1080 will sell a fcton this year and the next -_-
Big big oppertunity missed for AMD and a great loss to regain that much needed marketshare.