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AMD Kabini APU launch in first half of 2013
AMD revealed it has taped out numerous of its 2013 products and that there are many working chips from the 2013 product lineup at the company's labs. Unfortunately, the chip designer didn't reveal anything about new high-performance processors, but it did announce that the Kabini SoC APU, which will replace the Brazos 2.0 low-power platform, is slated for the first half of 2013.
“We already have working silicon for many of our new 2013 products in house, including our next-generation 28nm Kabini APU, which is the successor to our highly successful Brazos platform and our first true SoC design. We are making good progress with the bring up of Kabini, which remains on track to launch in the first half of next year,” said Rory Read, chief executive officer of AMD, during a conference call with financial analysts.
The Kabini APU is a quad-core chip based on the Jaguar architecture, with a new GPU architecture as well as improvements for heterogeneous processing. The chip will have a new memory controller and will integrate input/output capabilities.
In order to significantly improve performance of Jaguar-based APUs over the Bobcat-powered chips, AMD decided to go into virtually all logical directions: increase the amount of cores, boost clock-speed, add support for modern instructions, increase amount of executed instructions per clock (IPC). AMD also decided to improve power efficiency through clock gating and unit redesign in a bid to ensure lower idle power consumption compared to existing low-power designs. Jaguar features SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AES, PCLMUL, AVX, BMI, F16C as well as MOVBE. Jaguar also introduces 128-bit floating point unit (FPU) with enhancements and double-pumping to support 256-bit AVX instructions as well as an innovative integer unit with new hardware divider, larger schedulers and more out-of-order resources. AMD implemented a new CC6 state with even deeper energy economy, with each core able to go there independently.
It is noteworthy that while AMD specifically stated that it is on track with Kabini, it did not say a word about higher-performance solutions, namely Kaveri, which will utilize Steamroller x86 cores on which the company pins a lot of hopes.
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#4434894 Posted on: 10/20/2012 01:37 PM
This is the exact architecture that AMD needs to pull itself out of its pit. If it doesn't deliver on this architecture, then sell your shares as fast as possible because it won't be able to compete in the mobile market (tablet, etc) which is where the money will be made.
This is the exact architecture that AMD needs to pull itself out of its pit. If it doesn't deliver on this architecture, then sell your shares as fast as possible because it won't be able to compete in the mobile market (tablet, etc) which is where the money will be made.
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#4434901 Posted on: 10/20/2012 01:53 PM
ARM is where to go. If I knew 10 years ago what I know now, I would of avoided AMD like the plague. But that's the risk of investing in a tech company.
ARM is where to go. If I knew 10 years ago what I know now, I would of avoided AMD like the plague. But that's the risk of investing in a tech company.
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#4434929 Posted on: 10/20/2012 02:54 PM
You know ARM and AMD are working together since years, and actual and future ARM ( 9 and v15 and next ) are /will be designed in collaboration with AMD, not only on the hardware side, but specifically too on the language, API and instruction side ? ( hardware side, this is specifically for allow ARM integration on different level of x86system, by design the architecture differently ( using the same interconnect, the same C++ for storage and memory, use and bring compatibility with x86 GPU ( Nvidia and AMD ), by use the same language..
If the next Mali 6004 support DX11, you think it is a pure hasard ? , if the next ARM 15v can support C++ and other specific x86 language API, this is a pure hasard ?, and if they can finally be connected on x86 system and use the same data and instruction, this is a pure hasard ? ( For example an ARM CPU, with the work of AMD have bring to it, can now use the same data stored in memory of a CPU x86 and vice versa, an cpu x86&GPUx86 can use the data treated by an ARM architecture and use them.. this was impossible before .. ( thanks too to bring compatibility on the interconnect on server and language on ARM architecture side for it, developp new bridge and instruction level on ARM side by side with AMD )
Why do you think, there's yet 3 groups made of ARM+AMD ? ( HSA; Common Plateform etc etc ). 2 years ago, AMD allready annonced there collaboration with ARM for the developpement of the ARM architecture..
Nvidia is doing low base ARM based architecture ( tegra ), Intel is fighting for is own.. AMD is doing a complete different things, they are at the base of ARM architecture developpement today and for the next years.
Even the next APU "brick" system unveiled this year by AMD completely integrate the ARM architecture.. you can design your Soc or APU like you will:
- AMD x86 CPU + AMD x86 GPU ( HD 8000 )
- AMD x86 CPU + MALI "ARM " or PowerVR etc GPU
- ARM CPU + AMD x86 GPU ( HD8000 )
- AMD CPU x86 + ARM x86 CPU + HD 8000 x86GPU or MALI/PowerVX / or both .
etc etc ..
This pass offcourse by bring total compatibiliy between x86 and ARM architectures, and this pass offcourse by the HSA Fundation . ( AMD fundation with co funding members: ARM, Samsung, Texas Instrument, Qualcomm etc.
The AMD plan is extremely simple and well working: they are on the hardware side of both x86 and ARM, on the software of both x86 and ARM, they are on the base on the language, the API for both x86 and ARM ..
When Nvidia is just integrate ARM based cpu and create SOC based on them ( their only line of defense against APU ( whatever they are made by AMD or Intel ) , AMD is on base level of developpement of ARM and x86.. Instead of fight ( as Intel is doing ), they are collaborating with ARM and developp a next architecture based on ARM and x86 on all level of the computing need.
It have less impact on a direct market approach as for the example have Tegra, but on the long run ...
The roadmap seems clear when HSA is everywhere ( I ask me if we will see the HSA term too on all Samsung, ARM; Qualcomm, TI roadmap )
ARM is where to go. If I knew 10 years ago what I know now, I would of avoided AMD like the plague. But that's the risk of investing in a tech company.
You know ARM and AMD are working together since years, and actual and future ARM ( 9 and v15 and next ) are /will be designed in collaboration with AMD, not only on the hardware side, but specifically too on the language, API and instruction side ? ( hardware side, this is specifically for allow ARM integration on different level of x86system, by design the architecture differently ( using the same interconnect, the same C++ for storage and memory, use and bring compatibility with x86 GPU ( Nvidia and AMD ), by use the same language..
If the next Mali 6004 support DX11, you think it is a pure hasard ? , if the next ARM 15v can support C++ and other specific x86 language API, this is a pure hasard ?, and if they can finally be connected on x86 system and use the same data and instruction, this is a pure hasard ? ( For example an ARM CPU, with the work of AMD have bring to it, can now use the same data stored in memory of a CPU x86 and vice versa, an cpu x86&GPUx86 can use the data treated by an ARM architecture and use them.. this was impossible before .. ( thanks too to bring compatibility on the interconnect on server and language on ARM architecture side for it, developp new bridge and instruction level on ARM side by side with AMD )
Why do you think, there's yet 3 groups made of ARM+AMD ? ( HSA; Common Plateform etc etc ). 2 years ago, AMD allready annonced there collaboration with ARM for the developpement of the ARM architecture..
Nvidia is doing low base ARM based architecture ( tegra ), Intel is fighting for is own.. AMD is doing a complete different things, they are at the base of ARM architecture developpement today and for the next years.
Even the next APU "brick" system unveiled this year by AMD completely integrate the ARM architecture.. you can design your Soc or APU like you will:
- AMD x86 CPU + AMD x86 GPU ( HD 8000 )
- AMD x86 CPU + MALI "ARM " or PowerVR etc GPU
- ARM CPU + AMD x86 GPU ( HD8000 )
- AMD CPU x86 + ARM x86 CPU + HD 8000 x86GPU or MALI/PowerVX / or both .
etc etc ..
This pass offcourse by bring total compatibiliy between x86 and ARM architectures, and this pass offcourse by the HSA Fundation . ( AMD fundation with co funding members: ARM, Samsung, Texas Instrument, Qualcomm etc.
The AMD plan is extremely simple and well working: they are on the hardware side of both x86 and ARM, on the software of both x86 and ARM, they are on the base on the language, the API for both x86 and ARM ..
When Nvidia is just integrate ARM based cpu and create SOC based on them ( their only line of defense against APU ( whatever they are made by AMD or Intel ) , AMD is on base level of developpement of ARM and x86.. Instead of fight ( as Intel is doing ), they are collaborating with ARM and developp a next architecture based on ARM and x86 on all level of the computing need.
It have less impact on a direct market approach as for the example have Tegra, but on the long run ...
The roadmap seems clear when HSA is everywhere ( I ask me if we will see the HSA term too on all Samsung, ARM; Qualcomm, TI roadmap )
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#4435015 Posted on: 10/20/2012 06:06 PM
Arm and AMD should merge and make lots of babies.
Arm and AMD should merge and make lots of babies.
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Kinda grown attached to my Core i5 2500K, even though I do have a FX-8120 in my spare rig.
For some reason, I don't think I'll be 'upgrading' any time soon, as I'm really happy with what I've got, which is something I didn't ever expect to see myself type.