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Guru3D.com » News » AMD James Prior Sheds Light on Threadripper Dummy Dies

AMD James Prior Sheds Light on Threadripper Dummy Dies

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 09/19/2017 08:53 AM | source: | 23 comment(s)
AMD James Prior Sheds Light on Threadripper Dummy Dies

AMD's Senior Product Manager, James Prior talked a bit about the story that broke earlier on last week related to the fact that Threadripper is fitted with four AMD Zepplin dies. He mentions that the two extra dies have "no path to operation".

That also means you cannot activate 32-cores of course and that EPYC is a different processor (but sharing the same design). Prior outted his remarks on twitter:

Threadripper is not a Epyc processor. Different substrate, different dies. 2 dies work, other 2 have no path to operation. Basically rocks.

Prior also added that AMD decided to use the term "dummy" instead of "inactive" to describe Threadripper's additional dies as there is no way of utilizing/activating these additional CPU dies.

Yes, exactly why they're not described as inactive, but dummy. Doesn't matter if they were dead, or active, they're not going to work.

Earlier on overclocker der8auer tried to de-lid a Threadripper, but with the heatspreader soldered to the dies he broke that CPU (of course). In his video he took it a step further and check out the dummy dies. When he pealed them loose, the four dies revealed themselves, opposed to some sort of two die / two dummy configuration. James Prior however still has not mentioned as to why exactly they are using two extra dies? But likely, the ones used did not pass wafer inspections, e.g. they are non working dead and thus re-used



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Athlonite
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#5473539 Posted on: 09/20/2017 09:02 AM
maybe they did it to let intel feel good about their 18 core cpu, so now intel is hopefully set on 18 core max for x299 and whatever comes next in the next year while amd is free to unleash a 24-32c part, but I also wonder if they are not wired because they are meant to be dead or because the x399 chipset isnt wired for the extra dies at all


They're not wired up because there are probably to many flaws in the two disabled dies to alow any of the die to be used not that the chipset isn't capable of seeing that many cores

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#5473546 Posted on: 09/20/2017 09:21 AM
I don't get all the discussion on these dummy cores, who cares, it's not even a thing!

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#5473613 Posted on: 09/20/2017 01:42 PM
I don't get all the discussion on these dummy cores, who cares, it's not even a thing!


Kinda like when a pretty girl only shows you only one boob...yet you know there's another one somewhere.

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