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AMD Hawaii R9 290X GPU Specifications ?
A set of AMD Hawaii R9 290X GPU Specifications have been revealed by the German website 3DCenter.org. It is unclear how valid the specs really are. Key points: 4 raster engines, up to 2816 shader units, little bit more than 900 MHz base clock, temperature-controlled boost clock, 28nm process, around 430 mm² die-size, infos about process and die-size from an AMD interview with Forbes.
The 3DCenter website itself is in German, so this is a very rough Google translation, make of the information what you want:
From the corresponding speculative thread of our forum come first reasonably reliable data for Hawaii graphics chip from AMD's Volcanic Islands-generation , which AMD 25 September in the Radeon R200 series will introduce. However, the data stated are not speculations or assumptions, but come from a seemingly informed user - however, there is the residual risk that this is deliberate disinformation by AMD or the information in the transmission may have been partially corrupted. Thus, the following specifications are hardly ever can be laid on the gold scale - on the other hand correspond to these specifications Hawaii chip quite the preliminary expectations , that are realistic in every case:
AMD Hawaii
- 28nm production at TSMC
- ~ 430mm ² chip area (18% on R1000/Tahiti)
- 2.0 GCN Architecture (R1000/Tahiti: 1.0 GCN)
- DirectX 11.2 (as R1000/Tahiti)
- 4 raster engines (+100% over R1000/Tahiti)
- max 2816 shader units aka 44 shader clusters - in any case more than the 2304 shader units, the GeForce GTX 780 (+37.5% compared to R1000/Tahiti)
- Chip clock (Hawaii XT): slightly more than 900 MHz (similar to the Radeon HD 7970, but lower than the Radeon HD 7970 "edition GHz")
- Temperature-controlled boost clock - the card is not able to play to their full performance due to limits on temperature and power consumption regularly
- probably only a 384-bit DDR memory interface (such R1000/Tahiti)
- Presentation: 25 September 2013
- For sale: probably mid / late October 2013
- Sell ??name: Radeon probably R9-290 (Hawaii Pro) & Radeon R9-290X (Hawaii XT)
| Technik | Taktraten | Perf.Index | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Radeon HD 7990 | AMD 2x R1000/Tahiti, 4 Raster-Engines, 4096 Shader-Einheiten, 256 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 2x 384 Bit DDR Speicherinterface | 950/1000/3000 MHz | 600% |
| nVidia GeForce 690 | nVidia 2x GK104, 8 Raster-Engines, 3072 Shader-Einheiten, 256 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 2x 256 Bit DDR Speicherinterface | 915/1019/3000 MHz | 580% |
| GeForce GTX Titan Ultra | nVidia GK110, 5 Raster-Engines, 2880 Shader-Einheiten, 240 TMUs, 48 ROPs, 384 Bit DDR Speicherinterface | ~950/3400 MHz | 530-550% |
| Radeon R9-290X (Annahme 1) |
AMD Hawaii, 4 Raster-Engines, 2816 Shader-Einheiten, 176 TMUs, 32-48 ROPs, 384 Bit DDR Speicherinterface | ~950/975/3500 MHz | 485-510% |
| Radeon R9-290X (Annahme 2) |
AMD Hawaii, 4 Raster-Engines, 2560 Shader-Einheiten, 160 TMUs, 32-48 ROPs, 384 Bit DDR Speicherinterface | ~950/975/3500 MHz | 465-490% |
| GeForce GTX Titan | nVidia GK110, 5 Raster-Engines, 2688 Shader-Einheiten, 224 TMUs, 48 ROPs, 384 Bit DDR Speicherinterface | 837/876/3000 MHz | 480% |
| nVidia GeForce 780 | nVidia GK110, 4 oder 5 Raster-Engines, 2304 Shader-Einheiten, 192 TMUs, 48 ROPs, 384 Bit DDR Speicherinterface | 863/902/3000 MHz | 440% |
| Radeon HD 7970 "GHz Edition" | AMD R1000/Tahiti, 2 Raster-Engines, 2048 Shader-Einheiten, 128 TMUs, 32 ROPs, 384 Bit DDR Speicherinterface | 1000/1050/3000 MHz | 390% |
AMD Hawaii is 30% smaller than Kepler GK110 - 09/17/2013 08:39 AM
Forbed interviewed and he Talks New Radeon Cards, Next-Gen Consoles, 7990 Criticism. According to matt Skynner their new GPU is smaller than TITAN. Considerably smaller. It should be around 423mm2. T...
AMD Hawaii GPU might launch on September 25 - 08/08/2013 08:10 AM
AMD is planning to introduce its Hawaii GPU at the end of September according to a report on DSB. A press event is set to take place on September 23rd in Hawaii and the public launch is expected on Se...
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#4658257 Posted on: 09/19/2013 09:59 PM
My guess is around 2560 cores (more would be nice). But more importantly we need to see how much is GCN 2.0 better than GCN 1.0. Remember 6970 had less cores than 5870 but due to more efficient architecture (VLIW 4 vs VLIW 5), the performance was better even with less cores.
Interesting times ahead...
btw, Hilbert, when can we expect a review for it? around 25th or near the launch in OCT?
My guess is around 2560 cores (more would be nice). But more importantly we need to see how much is GCN 2.0 better than GCN 1.0. Remember 6970 had less cores than 5870 but due to more efficient architecture (VLIW 4 vs VLIW 5), the performance was better even with less cores.
Interesting times ahead...
btw, Hilbert, when can we expect a review for it? around 25th or near the launch in OCT?
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#4658279 Posted on: 09/19/2013 10:39 PM
Selling my GTX 690 this Saturday. Going for either a new AMD or a Palit SJS GTX 780.
My money goes to the best/fastest product in that price range or lower.
I really hope that AMD suprises me.
Selling my GTX 690 this Saturday. Going for either a new AMD or a Palit SJS GTX 780.
My money goes to the best/fastest product in that price range or lower.
I really hope that AMD suprises me.
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#4658525 Posted on: 09/20/2013 10:21 AM
Yes I've heard about possible 2800 cores,
Yeah. But the problem is none of these numbers came from a reputable source, like AMD. They're almost entirely random speculation, wishful thinking, and/or a logical assumption.
example: PCPerspective (formerly AMDMB.com) claimed back in May that it was "rumored" this chip would have 4096 ****** processors.
Now... getting back to the reality that if Hawaii is being released this month, they would without question be using the 28nm manufacturing process because 20nm is not ready for prime-time.
The following quote was made by an AMD executive...
Quotes from Matt Skynner – Corporate Vice President & GM, Graphics BU and AMD Canada General Manager
This is probably the most interesting part of the whole review. According to matt Skynner their new GPU is smaller than TITAN. Considerably smaller. It should be around 423mm2. This basically means that it’s 15% bigger than Tahiti. That said, you can probably pack 20% more components into bigger die.
Quote:
“It’s also extremely efficient. GK110 is nearly 30% bigger from a die size point of view. We believe we have the best performance for the die size for the enthusiast GPU.”
In the same interview it was said that AMD will focus on enthusiast segment, rather than ultra-enthusiast.
Source
That sounds to me like it's a mid-high card, probably somewhere near between GTX 770 and 780. The fact that he says Kepler is 30% larger in die size actually makes me think AMD isn't releasing a high end card until 20nm is finished. My GTX 680 is 294mm^2, which puts Hawaii's size too small to be high end.
Yes I've heard about possible 2800 cores,
Yeah. But the problem is none of these numbers came from a reputable source, like AMD. They're almost entirely random speculation, wishful thinking, and/or a logical assumption.
example: PCPerspective (formerly AMDMB.com) claimed back in May that it was "rumored" this chip would have 4096 ****** processors.
Now... getting back to the reality that if Hawaii is being released this month, they would without question be using the 28nm manufacturing process because 20nm is not ready for prime-time.
The following quote was made by an AMD executive...
Quotes from Matt Skynner – Corporate Vice President & GM, Graphics BU and AMD Canada General Manager
This is probably the most interesting part of the whole review. According to matt Skynner their new GPU is smaller than TITAN. Considerably smaller. It should be around 423mm2. This basically means that it’s 15% bigger than Tahiti. That said, you can probably pack 20% more components into bigger die.
Quote:
“It’s also extremely efficient. GK110 is nearly 30% bigger from a die size point of view. We believe we have the best performance for the die size for the enthusiast GPU.”
In the same interview it was said that AMD will focus on enthusiast segment, rather than ultra-enthusiast.
Source
That sounds to me like it's a mid-high card, probably somewhere near between GTX 770 and 780. The fact that he says Kepler is 30% larger in die size actually makes me think AMD isn't releasing a high end card until 20nm is finished. My GTX 680 is 294mm^2, which puts Hawaii's size too small to be high end.
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#4658692 Posted on: 09/20/2013 05:00 PM
7970Ghz falls between 770GTX and 780GTX, enough said.
5 more days and all will be clear, but I still bet it will be at least 20-30% faster then a GK110 with 14SMX + DoublePrecision (aka Titan), if 2800core then even more 30-40%.
7970Ghz falls between 770GTX and 780GTX, enough said.
5 more days and all will be clear, but I still bet it will be at least 20-30% faster then a GK110 with 14SMX + DoublePrecision (aka Titan), if 2800core then even more 30-40%.
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Oh yes it will be, the rumors are about the 280 but they couldn't even get THAT right, apparently lol.