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AMD Halts Support for Windows 8.1 with Consumer Radeon drivers
Yesterday AMD released their Radeon Crimson ReLive Edition Driver v17.7.2 (download), and some of you have asked me if I know where the Windows 8.1 drivers are. That indeed is a fair question, as they are missing.
Earlier on Windows 8.1 32-bit support was already halted, and we as well noticed that there has not been a 8.1 64-bit driver available ever since yesterday either. I just asked AMD to see what is going on there, and it is confirmed that there will no longer be any new Windows 8.1 drivers for Radeon graphics cards. The install base is just too small, and yes you should be moving onwards to Windows 10. Obviously previous driver releases are still available (we have them mirrored here). Here is what we got back from AMD:
"We no longer support Windows 8.1 officially with consumer postings. If users want to use the Windows 7 driver on Windows 8.1 then that is their choice."
So there you have it. It is time to upgrade to Windows 10 folks.
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#5457800 Posted on: 08/01/2017 06:02 AM
And you would know about them "accidentally" collecting and possessing said documents how exactly?
Do you haave a sppecial way of flagging the files not to be sent through their analytics? Scanned by their cloud based AV? Even though you must grant them a worldwide royalty free license to all the data on the PC?
If such a flagging technique existed it would be misused by malware makers in about 5 seconds. You may have legal recourse if you could somehow prove something that not even the vast majority of M$(or google) employees have the access to prove. If you have legal documents im sure you know how parallel construction works
Instead of reading the EULA and deciding it's "all encompassing".... It would be better to have an understanding of the actual laws. Even though, per the EULA, MS has an implied right to view files on any computer running Windows 10, some files are exempted from the EULA. The courts have already ruled that no EULA or ToS can be used to circumvent laws or constitutionally protected rights. In my case, I have legal documents stored on my computer that are confidential, as mandated by state courts. It's actually illegal for an MS employee or anyone not directly connected to the cases they pertain to, to view the documents. The Windows 10 EULA can't protect MS or any of it's employees from criminal charges for viewing those documents.
And you would know about them "accidentally" collecting and possessing said documents how exactly?
Do you haave a sppecial way of flagging the files not to be sent through their analytics? Scanned by their cloud based AV? Even though you must grant them a worldwide royalty free license to all the data on the PC?
If such a flagging technique existed it would be misused by malware makers in about 5 seconds. You may have legal recourse if you could somehow prove something that not even the vast majority of M$(or google) employees have the access to prove. If you have legal documents im sure you know how parallel construction works
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#5458103 Posted on: 08/01/2017 11:26 PM
And you would know about them "accidentally" collecting and possessing said documents how exactly?
Do you haave a sppecial way of flagging the files not to be sent through their analytics? Scanned by their cloud based AV? Even though you must grant them a worldwide royalty free license to all the data on the PC?
If such a flagging technique existed it would be misused by malware makers in about 5 seconds. You may have legal recourse if you could somehow prove something that not even the vast majority of M$(or google) employees have the access to prove. If you have legal documents im sure you know how parallel construction works
The great thing about laws. I don't have to prove they have accessed or copied the file. I just have to have a reasonable belief that it happened to begin legal action against them.
You're looking at everything based on an absolute worst case scenario, which it's in the best interest of MS to avoid. There is no case where MS can create an automated rule for scanning files, that doesn't create the potential for criminal charges against the company and/or an employee of. There's also no way to implement such a system that does not intentionally create a security hole that MS could be held liable for.
And you would know about them "accidentally" collecting and possessing said documents how exactly?
Do you haave a sppecial way of flagging the files not to be sent through their analytics? Scanned by their cloud based AV? Even though you must grant them a worldwide royalty free license to all the data on the PC?
If such a flagging technique existed it would be misused by malware makers in about 5 seconds. You may have legal recourse if you could somehow prove something that not even the vast majority of M$(or google) employees have the access to prove. If you have legal documents im sure you know how parallel construction works
The great thing about laws. I don't have to prove they have accessed or copied the file. I just have to have a reasonable belief that it happened to begin legal action against them.
You're looking at everything based on an absolute worst case scenario, which it's in the best interest of MS to avoid. There is no case where MS can create an automated rule for scanning files, that doesn't create the potential for criminal charges against the company and/or an employee of. There's also no way to implement such a system that does not intentionally create a security hole that MS could be held liable for.
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#5458109 Posted on: 08/01/2017 11:44 PM
the horse kindly asked people stop beating it dead corpse , how many pages of the topic is about drivers and how many are about win and its telemetry. people need to drop it
the horse kindly asked people stop beating it dead corpse , how many pages of the topic is about drivers and how many are about win and its telemetry. people need to drop it
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#5458112 Posted on: 08/01/2017 11:55 PM
And on that bombshell it's time to end the show
this train has derailed and burned into a pile of ashes. just mention MS telemetry in any topic and idiots here will most certainly derail the top and keep beating the dead corpse, it most funny especial seeing what smartphones are track is far worse, yet people dont give **** about that. turn blind eye to one but not the other, such hypocrites
And on that bombshell it's time to end the show
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There are an awful lot of assumptions in there. Who says i dont care what my smartphone or google does?
Microsoft gets so much hate for Windows 10 because they changed their entire OS to cater to the "i want everything free" millenial clueless crowd which doesnt understand the necessity or value of privacy.