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AMD Fixes More Ryzen Issues with New BIOS Firmware Microcode
Performance keeps on improving in games with Ryzen, that would be the generic message AMD is evangelizing in a new Blog post. It seems that AMD has made good progress on the software side of things. Yesterday we already reported on the Ashes update with a very significant performance boost. Today Dota 2 is getting that TLC. More importantly there is a microcode update planned that will improve memory latency, and thus again 1080p game performance.
The new microcode will go along with a BIOS update. With the AMD Generic Encapsulated Software Architecture (AGESA) 1.0.0.4 update the overall memory latency will drop with roughly 6 nanoseconds. By itself that doesn't sound huge, but as we have shown you in our reviews, memory timings, frequency and thus latency matters quite a bit for Ryzen relative to CPU game performance and sure, that would be a 8% imprivement in overal memory latency. The microcode update will help applications sensitive to exactly that, memory latency.
The earlier FMA3 benchmark bug also is fixed with the new motherboard firmware updates, but we reported on that one earlier already. Also an Overclock-sleep mode bug will be fixed. Last and not least, AMD Ryzen Master no longer needs the High-Precision Event Timer.
As a brief primer, the AGESA is responsible for initializing AMD x86-64 processors during boot time, acting as something of a “nucleus” for the BIOS updates you receive for your motherboard. Motherboard vendors take the baseline capabilities of our AGESA releases and build on that infrastructure to create the files you download and flash.
We will soon be distributing AGESA point release 1.0.0.4 to our motherboard partners. We expect BIOSes based on this AGESA to start hitting the public in early April, though specific dates will depend on the schedules and QA practices of your motherboard vendor.
BIOSes based on this new code will have four important improvements for you
- We have reduced DRAM latency by approximately 6ns. This can result in higher performance for latency-sensitive applications.
- We resolved a condition where an unusual FMA3 code sequence could cause a system hang.
- We resolved the “overclock sleep bug” where an incorrect CPU frequency could be reported after resuming from S3 sleep.
- AMD Ryzen™ Master no longer requires the High-Precision Event Timer (HPET).
The new BIOS updates with updated micro-code will be released in April. Below you can check some benchmark results (from AMD) on Ashes of the Singularity and DOTA 2.
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#5415026 Posted on: 04/01/2017 06:52 PM
Look at the chart you posted. Most of the 720 results match the 1080 results with the Fury X. There is a bottleneck with both. Maybe Nvidia needs to update their driver and optimize it for Ryzen but appears AMD does as well.
Edit: just looked at the charts again I don't read German so is there a reason he omitted 1920x1080 results with the Fury X card. That throws a red flag up for me.
It wasn't me who posted the charts and I don't know nor actually care who has a bottleneck. I just felt the urge to point out how flawed that line of reasoning was
Look at the chart you posted. Most of the 720 results match the 1080 results with the Fury X. There is a bottleneck with both. Maybe Nvidia needs to update their driver and optimize it for Ryzen but appears AMD does as well.
Edit: just looked at the charts again I don't read German so is there a reason he omitted 1920x1080 results with the Fury X card. That throws a red flag up for me.
It wasn't me who posted the charts and I don't know nor actually care who has a bottleneck. I just felt the urge to point out how flawed that line of reasoning was
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#5415080 Posted on: 04/01/2017 10:22 PM
Well the charts I was referring to showed multiple Intel CPU's and the 1800x tested in 720, 1080 and 1440 with a TXP and just the 1800x with a Fury X tested in 720 and 1440. Now with that limited about of info people are coming to a conclusion that it's a big conspiracy against AMD. Do you. It find it funny that 1800x/FuryX 1080 scores were omitted and no scores with Intel CPU's and the Fury X were shared?
It wasn't me who posted the charts and I don't know nor actually care who has a bottleneck. I just felt the urge to point out how flawed that line of reasoning was
Well the charts I was referring to showed multiple Intel CPU's and the 1800x tested in 720, 1080 and 1440 with a TXP and just the 1800x with a Fury X tested in 720 and 1440. Now with that limited about of info people are coming to a conclusion that it's a big conspiracy against AMD. Do you. It find it funny that 1800x/FuryX 1080 scores were omitted and no scores with Intel CPU's and the Fury X were shared?
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#5415095 Posted on: 04/01/2017 11:03 PM
And what would that data show us?
It's irrelevant. If u use a CPU at 100% with 100% efficiency, changing the GPU hardware can only make u go down, not up, cuz CPU is already at 100% doh...
So "IF" the charts are "true", and using a less powerful GPU (with a different driver), actually increases FPS, it must mean that the CPU wasn't used
at 100% efficiency.
So, thinking nvidia drivers are/were un-optimized for Ryzen is a sound conclusion.
Why should we assume that those nvidia drivers were optimized since day 1 (when most reviews were done) when even AMD is still ironing the bios and only 2 games released an optimization patch so far?
The point of the guy who posted the charts was exactly that.
And I too would like to see some updated reviews from HH, with not only new bios but some AMD GPUs.
Well the charts I was referring to showed multiple Intel CPU's and the 1800x tested in 720, 1080 and 1440 with a TXP and just the 1800x with a Fury X tested in 720 and 1440. Now with that limited about of info people are coming to a conclusion that it's a big conspiracy against AMD. Do you. It find it funny that 1800x/FuryX 1080 scores were omitted and no scores with Intel CPU's and the Fury X were shared?
And what would that data show us?
It's irrelevant. If u use a CPU at 100% with 100% efficiency, changing the GPU hardware can only make u go down, not up, cuz CPU is already at 100% doh...
So "IF" the charts are "true", and using a less powerful GPU (with a different driver), actually increases FPS, it must mean that the CPU wasn't used
at 100% efficiency.
So, thinking nvidia drivers are/were un-optimized for Ryzen is a sound conclusion.
Why should we assume that those nvidia drivers were optimized since day 1 (when most reviews were done) when even AMD is still ironing the bios and only 2 games released an optimization patch so far?
The point of the guy who posted the charts was exactly that.
And I too would like to see some updated reviews from HH, with not only new bios but some AMD GPUs.
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With how these threads have been going lately, it was 99% likely you were being serious. Might want to end with something that shows you are joking, can't read humor in text without obvious humor in text.