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AMD EHP Processor (EHP) has up-to 32 CPU cores and 32GB memory
AMD released information on their Exascale Heterogenous Processor (EHP) for Supercomputers, quite a few words eh ? Basically you 'could' read EHP as APU on a more advanced scale. EHP actually shares similarities with the recently launched Fiji chip with it's interposer and on-die memory.
EHP a die with several components mounted into it in the form of a number of processor cores, then a GPGPU unit all combined with the interposer which bridges the die towards a maximum of 32 GB of HBM2 memory, that would be on-package this on the EHP/APU.
if you combined the CPU/GPU with GPGPU functionality and the heaps of memory bandwidth, you can imagine that would be a pretty powerful solution for super-computing.
It is rumored that the processor side of things will get 32 cores, we think Zen micro-architecture here with eight "Zen" quad-core units. AMD is aiming to release the first engineering sample of this what will be a massive chip by 2016-17.
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#5134882 Posted on: 08/03/2015 10:15 AM
Until you see the power bill!
Sounds awesome!
Until you see the power bill!
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#5134888 Posted on: 08/03/2015 10:27 AM
This "thing" is made for attain the ExaFlops ( 1000 Petaflops ), for supercomputers, today supercomputers achieve at best 50 PetaFlops.
The question in reality is not much this APU, this was a design example, the thing is how they can combine it in a system for achieve it. This was point of the presentation for IEEE.
Here's the original image with the explanation about the off chips memory package, the cabinet network ..etc .
Until you see the power bill!
This "thing" is made for attain the ExaFlops ( 1000 Petaflops ), for supercomputers, today supercomputers achieve at best 50 PetaFlops.
The question in reality is not much this APU, this was a design example, the thing is how they can combine it in a system for achieve it. This was point of the presentation for IEEE.
Here's the original image with the explanation about the off chips memory package, the cabinet network ..etc .
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#5134897 Posted on: 08/03/2015 10:47 AM
after the fiasco of the last 2 gen, AMD should do something really exeptional to just get attention... despite sounding good this doesn't seem exeptional.
after the fiasco of the last 2 gen, AMD should do something really exeptional to just get attention... despite sounding good this doesn't seem exeptional.
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#5134904 Posted on: 08/03/2015 11:06 AM
You want to buy an ExaFlops supercomputer ?
This thing is not made for desktop, the gpu units surely dont have rop, tmu's, they are just there for computing.
Anyway, the design with HBM2, a gpu cores + a CPU + Nvram should be just enormous even for workstation computing...
after the fiasco of the last 2 gen, AMD should do something really exeptional to just get attention... despite sounding good this doesn't seem exeptional.
You want to buy an ExaFlops supercomputer ?
This thing is not made for desktop, the gpu units surely dont have rop, tmu's, they are just there for computing.
Anyway, the design with HBM2, a gpu cores + a CPU + Nvram should be just enormous even for workstation computing...
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#5134933 Posted on: 08/03/2015 11:36 AM
I have nothing against AMD , but all the time , you hear about a beast coming and when time comes you find a little cat !
I have nothing against AMD , but all the time , you hear about a beast coming and when time comes you find a little cat !
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#5134993 Posted on: 08/03/2015 01:57 PM
No matter what way you cut it, this EHP looks to be a beast.
Only two questions remain.
Can it run Batman and will it be of practical use for researchers?
No matter what way you cut it, this EHP looks to be a beast.
Only two questions remain.
Can it run Batman and will it be of practical use for researchers?
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#5135076 Posted on: 08/03/2015 04:26 PM
I'm pretty sure AMD has mostly learned their lesson. But, they're still banking on GPGPUs, which isn't a bad thing but software is still far behind from effectively supporting that. Modern APUs could probably outperform an i7 if software revolved around HSA and OpenCL, but that's an unrealistic expectation, and the products perform poorly as a result.
I'm pretty sure AMD has mostly learned their lesson. But, they're still banking on GPGPUs, which isn't a bad thing but software is still far behind from effectively supporting that. Modern APUs could probably outperform an i7 if software revolved around HSA and OpenCL, but that's an unrealistic expectation, and the products perform poorly as a result.
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#5135084 Posted on: 08/03/2015 04:33 PM
You want to buy an ExaFlops supercomputer ?
This thing is not made for desktop, the gpu units surely dont have rop, tmu's, they are just there for computing.
Anyway, the design with HBM2, a gpu cores + a CPU + Nvram should be just enormous even for workstation computing...
nope but this is like looking a GT championship's race, you will not bought a GT1 but a win in this discipline will boost sale for years on the winning company.
not so long away AMD where good at this discipline, and even last century it was the top of the art in pro CPU... but it was before.
the main goal of this exercice is to said "hey we have done that, you know we can handle your bussiness and be your reliable partner".
A green chameleon have done it and is in nearly every workstation right now...
a blue man have done it too and are now in neary all server CPU...
right now AMD try to save it's credibility and show the company's "savoir faire", but now the race is no more tripartite (i don't think that they have assimilated this data, as NVidia btw), and i don't think this will be enough as HBM2 will be with all competitor.
About batman, yes i think so, just the emulator to be build 1st
lol
You want to buy an ExaFlops supercomputer ?
This thing is not made for desktop, the gpu units surely dont have rop, tmu's, they are just there for computing.
Anyway, the design with HBM2, a gpu cores + a CPU + Nvram should be just enormous even for workstation computing...
nope but this is like looking a GT championship's race, you will not bought a GT1 but a win in this discipline will boost sale for years on the winning company.
not so long away AMD where good at this discipline, and even last century it was the top of the art in pro CPU... but it was before.
the main goal of this exercice is to said "hey we have done that, you know we can handle your bussiness and be your reliable partner".
A green chameleon have done it and is in nearly every workstation right now...
a blue man have done it too and are now in neary all server CPU...
right now AMD try to save it's credibility and show the company's "savoir faire", but now the race is no more tripartite (i don't think that they have assimilated this data, as NVidia btw), and i don't think this will be enough as HBM2 will be with all competitor.
About batman, yes i think so, just the emulator to be build 1st
lol
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#5135118 Posted on: 08/03/2015 05:24 PM
Sweet Jesus!! Spray your glory all over my face!!
This is truly glorious!!
Cant wait for a Zen APU with the performance of the latest x60 videocard from nvidia.
... that doesnt require RAM at all!!
And have it in a nuc sized PC with the only other components being the mobo and SSD!
Mount it on a back of a big freesync monitor and forget having a big ugly tower entirely! (Dont worry elitists, you can still build 4xtitans... 99% of us cant be bothered tho)
Intel and nvidia has NOTHING on such awesomeness!
Sweet Jesus!! Spray your glory all over my face!!
This is truly glorious!!
Cant wait for a Zen APU with the performance of the latest x60 videocard from nvidia.
... that doesnt require RAM at all!!
And have it in a nuc sized PC with the only other components being the mobo and SSD!
Mount it on a back of a big freesync monitor and forget having a big ugly tower entirely! (Dont worry elitists, you can still build 4xtitans... 99% of us cant be bothered tho)
Intel and nvidia has NOTHING on such awesomeness!
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#5135454 Posted on: 08/04/2015 05:56 AM
Or with added rumors people's expectations become unrealistic each time?! Bulldozer, Mantle, Fury sure sound beastly and they may very well be in certain aspects however why fault AMD for deliberately trying their own thing? What fun wound it be if all alternatives were equal on CPU/GPU/TDP/FPS and Features? If anything, AMD has had the biggest balls/spirit pushing through these tough years, especially in what seems an already very well established market.
Anyway, it's not like Intel doesn't have it's own share of problems in markets where ARM/Qualcomm dominates like a Bo$$. nVidia's fragile glory could also suffer at any given moment, for all it takes is a wrong decision and/or a solid product release cycle from AMD. Next thing you know that shiny crown has been lost and the battle continues. So, enjoy your gaming and make good friends that's all that matter in the end.
I have nothing against AMD , but all the time , you hear about a beast coming and when time comes you find a little cat !
Or with added rumors people's expectations become unrealistic each time?! Bulldozer, Mantle, Fury sure sound beastly and they may very well be in certain aspects however why fault AMD for deliberately trying their own thing? What fun wound it be if all alternatives were equal on CPU/GPU/TDP/FPS and Features? If anything, AMD has had the biggest balls/spirit pushing through these tough years, especially in what seems an already very well established market.
Anyway, it's not like Intel doesn't have it's own share of problems in markets where ARM/Qualcomm dominates like a Bo$$. nVidia's fragile glory could also suffer at any given moment, for all it takes is a wrong decision and/or a solid product release cycle from AMD. Next thing you know that shiny crown has been lost and the battle continues. So, enjoy your gaming and make good friends that's all that matter in the end.
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#5135996 Posted on: 08/04/2015 10:38 PM
This isn't intended for domestic use. This isn't even intended for large enterprise datacentre use. This is intended to allow AMD to soak up some of that sweet US taxpayer money following the recent announcement for the push to build an exascale supercomputer to get one over on the Chinese. The official line is that it will be used for modelling the aerodynamics of future space vehicles and climate modelling, but really it's just a pissing contest.
This isn't intended for domestic use. This isn't even intended for large enterprise datacentre use. This is intended to allow AMD to soak up some of that sweet US taxpayer money following the recent announcement for the push to build an exascale supercomputer to get one over on the Chinese. The official line is that it will be used for modelling the aerodynamics of future space vehicles and climate modelling, but really it's just a pissing contest.
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Sounds awesome!