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AMD denies limited availability Radeon VII
Earlier this week there was a rumor that the upcoming Radeon VII would only become available with 5000 units, that rumor is now debunked by AMD. There should be plenty of stock available to meet the worldwide gamer demand. AIB partners will also sell the Radeon VII with 16GB HBM2 graphics memory.
The rumors indicated that only 5,000 production units would be made, AMD now has denied that rumor, but does not want to make a public statement on how much units there will be available, perhaps 5,001 haha ;) AMD mentions there will be plenty available to meet the demand from gamers worldwide.
While we don't report on production numbers externally, we will have products available via AIB partners and AMD.com at launch of Feb. 7, and we expect Radeon VII supply to meet demand from gamers.
AMD would only release reference products, these would be selling though board partners as well. Ergo AMD did not make an official statement IF there will be custom cards at all, we don't expect that to be the case. But we still can hope.
AMDs Radeon VII will take on the GeForce RTX 2080 in performance. The card will become available starting the 7th of February for 699 USD, we can't wait to bring you some numbers on it.
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#5629133 Posted on: 01/18/2019 09:47 AM
For the 5000 AMD gamers worldwide ?
For the 5000 AMD gamers worldwide ?
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#5629151 Posted on: 01/18/2019 10:44 AM
Other sources say 10-20k initially 60k total.
Other sources say 10-20k initially 60k total.
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#5629154 Posted on: 01/18/2019 10:56 AM
Too expensive. I don't care if it has RTX 2080 performance if it costs the same. 2xxx series is overpriced as hell.
Too expensive. I don't care if it has RTX 2080 performance if it costs the same. 2xxx series is overpriced as hell.
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#5629159 Posted on: 01/18/2019 11:10 AM
Vega 56 is available for very nice price right now, I am seeing Gigabyte and Sapphire models at ~400 euro here in Denmark. Which is about 50€ less than the cheapest GTX 1070.
But it's also sort of absurd since this is just a little shy of what I was expecting their initial launch price to be, and how many years ago was that? :p
Vega 56 is available for very nice price right now, I am seeing Gigabyte and Sapphire models at ~400 euro here in Denmark. Which is about 50€ less than the cheapest GTX 1070.
But it's also sort of absurd since this is just a little shy of what I was expecting their initial launch price to be, and how many years ago was that? :p
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#5629176 Posted on: 01/18/2019 12:42 PM
This.
I am an AMD fan, as i always prefer the underdog in the competition. With that being said, i think this product is overpriced for no reason. 16gb hbm 2 is just an excuse for that.
Too expensive. I don't care if it has RTX 2080 performance if it costs the same. 2xxx series is overpriced as hell.
This.
I am an AMD fan, as i always prefer the underdog in the competition. With that being said, i think this product is overpriced for no reason. 16gb hbm 2 is just an excuse for that.
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#5629191 Posted on: 01/18/2019 01:24 PM
This.
I am an AMD fan, as i always prefer the underdog in the competition. With that being said, i think this product is overpriced for no reason. 16gb hbm 2 is just an excuse for that.
Even if it was somewhat cheaper, the increased sales wouldn't compensate enough, I'd say. There's not really anything phenomenal about Vega VII, at least not for gamers. AMD can't be making a whole lot of money with Vega as it is anymore, not since mining died. HBM is expensive compared to GDDR and the way to pack it with the GPU with the interposer apparently is troublesome as well. So, if they know they aren't going to sell amazing amounts in any case, it'll be all the same to keep it a bit more expensive so that they make at least a little profit.
This.
I am an AMD fan, as i always prefer the underdog in the competition. With that being said, i think this product is overpriced for no reason. 16gb hbm 2 is just an excuse for that.
Even if it was somewhat cheaper, the increased sales wouldn't compensate enough, I'd say. There's not really anything phenomenal about Vega VII, at least not for gamers. AMD can't be making a whole lot of money with Vega as it is anymore, not since mining died. HBM is expensive compared to GDDR and the way to pack it with the GPU with the interposer apparently is troublesome as well. So, if they know they aren't going to sell amazing amounts in any case, it'll be all the same to keep it a bit more expensive so that they make at least a little profit.
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#5629203 Posted on: 01/18/2019 01:45 PM
@Hilbert Hagedoom "AMD did not make an official statement IF there will be custom cards at all, we don't expect that to be the case. But we still can hope."
You've been around long enough to know fine rightly, That the custom cards will not be available at launch and probably not till 3-4 maybe even 5months later.
You also know that the partners will produce reference designs to meet demand.
You also know that 5,000 is a outrageous stupidly low number and that TSMC and Global Foundries wouldn't even produce such a low number of wafers.
@Hilbert Hagedoom "AMD did not make an official statement IF there will be custom cards at all, we don't expect that to be the case. But we still can hope."
You've been around long enough to know fine rightly, That the custom cards will not be available at launch and probably not till 3-4 maybe even 5months later.
You also know that the partners will produce reference designs to meet demand.
You also know that 5,000 is a outrageous stupidly low number and that TSMC and Global Foundries wouldn't even produce such a low number of wafers.
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#5629204 Posted on: 01/18/2019 01:50 PM
@Hilbert Hagedoom "AMD did not make an official statement IF there will be custom cards at all, we don't expect that to be the case. But we still can hope."
You've been around long enough to know fine rightly, That the custom cards will not be available at launch and probably not till 3-4 maybe even 5months later.
You also know that the partners will produce reference designs to meet demand.
You also know that 5,000 is a outrageous stupidly low number and that TSMC and Global Foundries wouldn't even produce such a low number of wafers.
VII Gaming is just a binned MI50 which is a binned MI60. So the total production run is significantly larger but only a small percent become VII gaming cards.
That being said I doubt the number is 5000.
@Hilbert Hagedoom "AMD did not make an official statement IF there will be custom cards at all, we don't expect that to be the case. But we still can hope."
You've been around long enough to know fine rightly, That the custom cards will not be available at launch and probably not till 3-4 maybe even 5months later.
You also know that the partners will produce reference designs to meet demand.
You also know that 5,000 is a outrageous stupidly low number and that TSMC and Global Foundries wouldn't even produce such a low number of wafers.
VII Gaming is just a binned MI50 which is a binned MI60. So the total production run is significantly larger but only a small percent become VII gaming cards.
That being said I doubt the number is 5000.
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#5629205 Posted on: 01/18/2019 01:53 PM
Can't wait to see how it performs. It'd better be worth those 700 bucks.
Can't wait to see how it performs. It'd better be worth those 700 bucks.
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#5629206 Posted on: 01/18/2019 02:04 PM
If you don't use your PC as a game console only, it will worth every penny.
Those of us who are gaming but also using Blender, Unity etc 16GB VRAM at 1TB/s at $700 is a steal of the century.
Also is the number crunching capabilities of the Radeon VII, which the next one up card is either MI60 or some obscure quaddro, which cost thousands and cannot play games also with.
In addition yesterday AMD confirmed that it will have 1/8 FP64. That means 1.7Tflops contrary to RTX2080Ti 0.420Tflops.
Can't wait to see how it performs. It'd better be worth those 700 bucks.
If you don't use your PC as a game console only, it will worth every penny.
Those of us who are gaming but also using Blender, Unity etc 16GB VRAM at 1TB/s at $700 is a steal of the century.
Also is the number crunching capabilities of the Radeon VII, which the next one up card is either MI60 or some obscure quaddro, which cost thousands and cannot play games also with.
In addition yesterday AMD confirmed that it will have 1/8 FP64. That means 1.7Tflops contrary to RTX2080Ti 0.420Tflops.
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#5629214 Posted on: 01/18/2019 02:43 PM
If they release cheaper 8GB variants, I'm sure those would sell much better. I don't think these are bad for their price but they're not an attractive deal to gamers either.
If they release cheaper 8GB variants, I'm sure those would sell much better. I don't think these are bad for their price but they're not an attractive deal to gamers either.
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#5629231 Posted on: 01/18/2019 04:08 PM
If you don't use your PC as a game console only, it will worth every penny.
Those of us who are gaming but also using Blender, Unity etc 16GB VRAM at 1TB/s at $700 is a steal of the century.
Also is the number crunching capabilities of the Radeon VII, which the next one up card is either MI60 or some obscure quaddro, which cost thousands and cannot play games also with.
In addition yesterday AMD confirmed that it will have 1/8 FP64. That means 1.7Tflops contrary to RTX2080Ti 0.420Tflops.
Can you link to the confirmation about the 1/8 FP64 support plz?
If you don't use your PC as a game console only, it will worth every penny.
Those of us who are gaming but also using Blender, Unity etc 16GB VRAM at 1TB/s at $700 is a steal of the century.
Also is the number crunching capabilities of the Radeon VII, which the next one up card is either MI60 or some obscure quaddro, which cost thousands and cannot play games also with.
In addition yesterday AMD confirmed that it will have 1/8 FP64. That means 1.7Tflops contrary to RTX2080Ti 0.420Tflops.
Can you link to the confirmation about the 1/8 FP64 support plz?
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#5629232 Posted on: 01/18/2019 04:10 PM
https://twitter.com/RyanSmithAT/status/1085680805802733568
Can you link to the confirmation about the 1/8 FP64 support plz?
https://twitter.com/RyanSmithAT/status/1085680805802733568
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#5629247 Posted on: 01/18/2019 05:25 PM
For the 5000 AMD gamers worldwide ?
Steam survey say's 74% for Nvidia and 15% for AMD, and we know there are a lot of respondents in there!
For the 5000 AMD gamers worldwide ?
Steam survey say's 74% for Nvidia and 15% for AMD, and we know there are a lot of respondents in there!
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Perhaps not very many.