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AMD Could Do DLSS Alternative with Radeon VII through DirectML API

by Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 01/17/2019 11:05 AM | source: pcgameshardware | 128 comment(s)
AMD Could Do DLSS Alternative with Radeon VII through DirectML API

There is an interesting development, as you know the GeForce RTX graphics cards have tensor cores, dedicated cores for optimizing and accelerating anything AI and Deep Learning. A spawn from that technology for gaming is DLSS, which NVIDIA is marketing strongly. With the October 2018 update for Windows 10, Microsoft has released the DirectML API for DirectX 12. 

ML stands for Machine Learning - and makes it possible to run trained neural networks on any DX12 graphics card. Basically, the Deep Learning optimization or algorithm if you will, becomes a shader that can be run over the traditional shader engine, without a need for tensor cores. In an interview with AMD they mention that the team is working on this and it seems, Radeon VII seems very well suited for the new API. Japanese website 4gamer.net spoke with AMD marketing manager Adam Kozak, AMD is currently testing DirectML with Radeon VII and was positively impressed by the results, and that is exciting news for AMD offering them an AI/DL alternative.

While AMD is testing this on Radeon VII, logic obviously dictates that it would work well on Radeon RX Vega 64 and Radeon RX Vega 56 as well. This allows, for example, an alternative implementation to Nvidia's DLSS. 

Only 1+1=2

Of course, should this become an actual supported thing, then it can't be addressed AMD alone, this question remains: will game developers actually implement, experiment and integrate support for DX ML into games?

It also has to be said, it works reversed, DirectML could also make use of Nvidia's Tensor cores, certainly giving them an advantage. As the Radeon card would see a performance hit, whereas the RTX cards can simply offload the algorithm towards its Tensor cores. Time will tell, but this certainly is an interesting development as long as your graphics card is powerful enough, of course.

 



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Hilbert Hagedoorn
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#5628679 Posted on: 01/17/2019 11:10 AM
Thanks for posting this Hilbert and especially for that hires die shot!

Can I offer a suggestion? Can you embed the guru3d.com watermark like an embossed engraving in your future pictures? I think it would look much classier since I do use your pictures as wallpaper.


I can look into that sure, btw for some high-res VII wallpaper, click here.

labidas
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#5628681 Posted on: 01/17/2019 11:11 AM
Nvidia be like: "You need our PhysX chip, CUDA cores, tensor cores, Gsync module for those things!"
AMD be like: "Hold my beer..."

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#5628682 Posted on: 01/17/2019 11:20 AM
I can look into that sure, btw for some high-res VII wallpaper, click here.


Thanks Hilbert! That nerd pr0n just made my day! :P

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#5628683 Posted on: 01/17/2019 11:22 AM
problem with this tech is you have to bake it so procedurally generated graphics may not work.
I do think its a step backwards not forwards because of its limitations .

I'm not sure I can follow you, what do you mean by "bake" it?


Nvidia be like: "You need our PhysX chip, CUDA cores, tensor cores, Gsync module for those things!"
AMD be like: "Hold my beer..."

AMD can do it with brute force, Nvidia tries to be "smarter" here and run it via specialised hardware. If you read Hilbert's article, it might do just the same on AMD's hardware, just might need more horsepower to do so.

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#5628695 Posted on: 01/17/2019 11:59 AM
I can look into that sure, btw for some high-res VII wallpaper, click here.

Those are some great news, and that's a sexy shot right there. "whistles" ;)

Thank you for sharing @Hilbert Hagedoorn

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