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AMD confirms Raven Ridge Vega 11 and halts production Vega Reference Cards
In a recent interview with James Prior, senior product manager at AMD (the man behind Threadripper) mentioned a number of things that are interesting. First and foremost, Prior mentions that socket AM4 will be supported until at least 2020, and it will support Ryzen 2, not be confused with the optimization of Zen, named Zen+.
Prior also mentioned Raven Ridge, the APU that makes use of Vega 11 GPU 11 enabled Compute Units = 704 shader procs (until now APUs only have had 8 and 10 CUs).
Last but not least, Prior also confirmed that will be halting the production of RX Vega 56 and 64 reference models. This way they only make the GPUs which they sell to board partners. That clears up the selling space and thus partners will get far more chips available. Hopefully, that will get volume availability of the cards back on track.
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#5497785 Posted on: 12/04/2017 11:11 AM
I doubt there will ever be a Vega 11 enabled APU this generation, its one extra CU for yields and possible defects.
I doubt there will ever be a Vega 11 enabled APU this generation, its one extra CU for yields and possible defects.
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#5497786 Posted on: 12/04/2017 11:11 AM
Personally I don't care about CPU because DDR jeeps getting more expensive and I can hold on to my 2500k for a little wile. Plus, I need a new GPU...I can't wait for Vega mainstream but that's probably months away.
Personally I don't care about CPU because DDR jeeps getting more expensive and I can hold on to my 2500k for a little wile. Plus, I need a new GPU...I can't wait for Vega mainstream but that's probably months away.
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#5497817 Posted on: 12/04/2017 12:53 PM
As do I... but I doubt we'll see any news this year.
Good stuff, personally waiting on Zen+ news my potential next upgrade.
As do I... but I doubt we'll see any news this year.
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#5497821 Posted on: 12/04/2017 01:21 PM
Zen+ is probably already coming to CES in January...Ryzen prices being slashed by a hefty margin for a while could be interpreted as a hint Zen+ is coming very soon.
Apparently someone from AMD told OC.uk that AMD are already preparing for a launch or something...so PCGH.de turned that into Pinnacle Ridge at CES.
Zen+ is probably already coming to CES in January...Ryzen prices being slashed by a hefty margin for a while could be interpreted as a hint Zen+ is coming very soon.
Apparently someone from AMD told OC.uk that AMD are already preparing for a launch or something...so PCGH.de turned that into Pinnacle Ridge at CES.
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#5497823 Posted on: 12/04/2017 01:23 PM
Personally wouldn't wait for a amd gpu, the cost of them is so inflaited right now it just isn't worth it unless you don't mind the cost. And bitcoin just keeps going up so I doubt this will change sadly.
It is totally horrible buying a pc right now, minus the case and fans almost everything has some form of price increase due to the demand coming from mining.
If rumours be true it is basically zen, with a small bump on clocks from my understanding, which to be fair was the biggest thing zen needed, if they can get 4.5ghz out of it I reckon it would do far better vs intel in many applications that prefer the higher clocks
Personally I don't care about CPU because DDR jeeps getting more expensive and I can hold on to my 2500k for a little wile. Plus, I need a new GPU...I can't wait for Vega mainstream but that's probably months away.
Personally wouldn't wait for a amd gpu, the cost of them is so inflaited right now it just isn't worth it unless you don't mind the cost. And bitcoin just keeps going up so I doubt this will change sadly.
It is totally horrible buying a pc right now, minus the case and fans almost everything has some form of price increase due to the demand coming from mining.
Good stuff, personally waiting on Zen+ news my potential next upgrade.
If rumours be true it is basically zen, with a small bump on clocks from my understanding, which to be fair was the biggest thing zen needed, if they can get 4.5ghz out of it I reckon it would do far better vs intel in many applications that prefer the higher clocks
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#5497825 Posted on: 12/04/2017 01:44 PM
In it's basic form yes, however it is a manufacturing process shrink after all. AMD did say that Zen was their worst case scenario, due to that Zen+ should clock better, probably consume less power, as a result perhaps stay cooler? Well that's speculation on my part, however as you said IF it can reach 4.5 (or hell, 4.3 even) that will be an instant sale for me, as Zen has better PPC compared to Intel, which potentially may get only better on 12nm.
If rumours be true it is basically zen, with a small bump on clocks from my understanding, which to be fair was the biggest thing zen needed, if they can get 4.5ghz out of it I reckon it would do far better vs intel in many applications that prefer the higher clocks
In it's basic form yes, however it is a manufacturing process shrink after all. AMD did say that Zen was their worst case scenario, due to that Zen+ should clock better, probably consume less power, as a result perhaps stay cooler? Well that's speculation on my part, however as you said IF it can reach 4.5 (or hell, 4.3 even) that will be an instant sale for me, as Zen has better PPC compared to Intel, which potentially may get only better on 12nm.
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#5497827 Posted on: 12/04/2017 02:05 PM
I doubt Zen+ will be much of an improvement since we are talking a tweaked version of the same process. This coming from a Ryzen 1800x owner so no bias. Speaking of decided to go back to stock clocks and play with undervolting. My 1800x can undervolt like crazy, this thing is running so cool now.
I doubt Zen+ will be much of an improvement since we are talking a tweaked version of the same process. This coming from a Ryzen 1800x owner so no bias. Speaking of decided to go back to stock clocks and play with undervolting. My 1800x can undervolt like crazy, this thing is running so cool now.
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#5497832 Posted on: 12/04/2017 02:22 PM
with a little more clock speed these things will fly i can only get 3.9ghz out of 1600 but it starts to take stupid amounts of voltage to do so even if the can increase the average clock/overclock by another 300-400 mhz it give them a massive boost
with a little more clock speed these things will fly i can only get 3.9ghz out of 1600 but it starts to take stupid amounts of voltage to do so even if the can increase the average clock/overclock by another 300-400 mhz it give them a massive boost
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#5497853 Posted on: 12/04/2017 03:15 PM
I agree with the general consensus that the Zen+ will most likely be a small speed bump of up to 10%, with roughly the same power consumption.
Should be able to hit the 4-4.2GHz no problem though, will be just costly in Watts to get to 4.3-4.5.
At that speed, and seeing the latest roadmap from Intel, AMD should be sweet for a good year or so.
I agree with the general consensus that the Zen+ will most likely be a small speed bump of up to 10%, with roughly the same power consumption.
Should be able to hit the 4-4.2GHz no problem though, will be just costly in Watts to get to 4.3-4.5.
At that speed, and seeing the latest roadmap from Intel, AMD should be sweet for a good year or so.
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#5497856 Posted on: 12/04/2017 03:31 PM
APU Horror stories incoming:
PLX HELP!
I have bought AM4 APU and paired it with the best AM4 motherboard, and now I can't even connect it to my monitor.
Because the damn motherboard has no video out (DP/HDMI)!!!
APU Horror stories incoming:
PLX HELP!
I have bought AM4 APU and paired it with the best AM4 motherboard, and now I can't even connect it to my monitor.
Because the damn motherboard has no video out (DP/HDMI)!!!
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#5497870 Posted on: 12/04/2017 04:03 PM
I doubt Zen+ will be much of an improvement since we are talking a tweaked version of the same process. This coming from a Ryzen 1800x owner so no bias. Speaking of decided to go back to stock clocks and play with undervolting. My 1800x can undervolt like crazy, this thing is running so cool now.
I don't suspect Zen+ will be a major improvement either. I expect it will improve latency (likely by tweaking the functionality of the caches and infinity-fabric, since there is a lot of lost time there) and update the fabrication process so clock speeds aren't so limited. Ryzen is otherwise plenty good enough as it is.
Out of curiosity, what is the voltage of your 1800X?
I have bought AM4 APU and paired it with the best AM4 motherboard, and now I can't even connect it to my monitor.
Because the damn motherboard has no video out (DP/HDMI)!!!
Uh... "the best" is not only subjective, but not useful information. But what exactly is it that you need help with? You already answered your question - you got the wrong motherboard.
I doubt Zen+ will be much of an improvement since we are talking a tweaked version of the same process. This coming from a Ryzen 1800x owner so no bias. Speaking of decided to go back to stock clocks and play with undervolting. My 1800x can undervolt like crazy, this thing is running so cool now.
I don't suspect Zen+ will be a major improvement either. I expect it will improve latency (likely by tweaking the functionality of the caches and infinity-fabric, since there is a lot of lost time there) and update the fabrication process so clock speeds aren't so limited. Ryzen is otherwise plenty good enough as it is.
Out of curiosity, what is the voltage of your 1800X?
I have bought AM4 APU and paired it with the best AM4 motherboard, and now I can't even connect it to my monitor.
Because the damn motherboard has no video out (DP/HDMI)!!!
Uh... "the best" is not only subjective, but not useful information. But what exactly is it that you need help with? You already answered your question - you got the wrong motherboard.
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#5497877 Posted on: 12/04/2017 04:31 PM
Uh... "the best" is not only subjective, but not useful information. But what exactly is it that you need help with? You already answered your question - you got the wrong motherboard.
Is silly when the most expensive, most feature packed boards cheap out by not providing video out, is all.
Sometimes down the road when Muon Lake and Zen4+ are released, I might wanna stick APU in my ole board and use it as whatevah...
It might sound silly to some, but the lack of integrated GPU is one the reasons I decided against going Ryzen. I love fail-safe redundancy and low-power.
And I cant remember the number of times my Intel HD saved me from borked video driver installation.
Uh... "the best" is not only subjective, but not useful information. But what exactly is it that you need help with? You already answered your question - you got the wrong motherboard.
Is silly when the most expensive, most feature packed boards cheap out by not providing video out, is all.
Sometimes down the road when Muon Lake and Zen4+ are released, I might wanna stick APU in my ole board and use it as whatevah...
It might sound silly to some, but the lack of integrated GPU is one the reasons I decided against going Ryzen. I love fail-safe redundancy and low-power.
And I cant remember the number of times my Intel HD saved me from borked video driver installation.
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#5497880 Posted on: 12/04/2017 04:39 PM
Is silly when the most expensive, most feature packed boards cheap out by not providing video out, is all.
Sometimes down the road when Muon Lake and Zen4+ are released, I might wanna stick APU in my ole board and use it as whatevah...
It might sound silly to some, but the lack of integrated GPU is one the reasons I decided against going Ryzen. I love fail-safe redundancy and low-power.
And I cant remember the number of times my Intel HD saved me from borked video driver installation.
It says right there on the specsheet what the board contains... so, yeah, no idea why you would even buy it if it didn't have what you needed.
By "I can't remember the number of times", do you mean "it never happened, so it's hard to remember"? You must have something seriously borked with your system if you have bad driver installs that make you have to swap in a different videocard. Like, seriously, when has this happened, ever?
Is silly when the most expensive, most feature packed boards cheap out by not providing video out, is all.
Sometimes down the road when Muon Lake and Zen4+ are released, I might wanna stick APU in my ole board and use it as whatevah...
It might sound silly to some, but the lack of integrated GPU is one the reasons I decided against going Ryzen. I love fail-safe redundancy and low-power.
And I cant remember the number of times my Intel HD saved me from borked video driver installation.
It says right there on the specsheet what the board contains... so, yeah, no idea why you would even buy it if it didn't have what you needed.
By "I can't remember the number of times", do you mean "it never happened, so it's hard to remember"? You must have something seriously borked with your system if you have bad driver installs that make you have to swap in a different videocard. Like, seriously, when has this happened, ever?
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#5497886 Posted on: 12/04/2017 04:55 PM
It says right there on the specsheet what the board contains... so, yeah, no idea why you would even buy it if it didn't have what you needed.
By "I can't remember the number of times", do you mean "it never happened, so it's hard to remember"? You must have something seriously borked with your system if you have bad driver installs that make you have to swap in a different videocard.
But I did not have to physically swap anything. Another GPU is already sitting in my rig for fail-safe purposes and for debugging.
Like, seriously, when has this happened, ever?
Borked video driver installation? HAHA is that even a serious question.
Integrated graphics saving me once(!) from having to reinstall OS, means its worth having it.
It says right there on the specsheet what the board contains... so, yeah, no idea why you would even buy it if it didn't have what you needed.
By "I can't remember the number of times", do you mean "it never happened, so it's hard to remember"? You must have something seriously borked with your system if you have bad driver installs that make you have to swap in a different videocard.
But I did not have to physically swap anything. Another GPU is already sitting in my rig for fail-safe purposes and for debugging.
Like, seriously, when has this happened, ever?
Borked video driver installation? HAHA is that even a serious question.
Integrated graphics saving me once(!) from having to reinstall OS, means its worth having it.
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Good stuff, personally waiting on Zen+ news my potential next upgrade.