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Prior also mentioned Raven Ridge, the APU that makes use of Vega 11 GPU 11 enabled Compute Units = 704 shader procs (until now APUs only have had 8 and 10 CUs).
Last but not least, Prior also confirmed that will be halting the production of RX Vega 56 and 64 reference models. This way they only make the GPUs which they sell to board partners. That clears up the selling space and thus partners will get far more chips available. Hopefully, that will get volume availability of the cards back on track.
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#5497893 Posted on: 12/04/2017 05:22 PM
Not really, because nobody buys high-end desktop/gaming boards with the intent of using integrated graphics, let alone from one packaged with a low-end APU. It doesn't seem like you did your research, for either the motherboard or the APU. This isn't the motherboard manufacturer's fault.
I totally get wanting a fail-safe, but, the Bristol Ridge APUs aren't low-power (relatively speaking), and you're better off using a cheap discrete GPU for failsafe testing. I personally have an Nvidia 8400 GS that I use for such things.
Out of curiosity: What exactly are you doing to your drivers to cause numerous scenarios where you need to depend on the Intel graphics? I've done some unusual configurations, such as AMD graphics with Nvidia PhysX, transferring a Windows install to a completely different set of hardware (including motherboard and CPU), and modified GPU BIOSes with pre-set overclocks. And yet, I have never needed to depend on the integrated graphics to get me back on my feet.
Is silly when the most expensive, most feature packed boards cheap out by not providing video out, is all.
Not really, because nobody buys high-end desktop/gaming boards with the intent of using integrated graphics, let alone from one packaged with a low-end APU. It doesn't seem like you did your research, for either the motherboard or the APU. This isn't the motherboard manufacturer's fault.
It might sound silly to some, but the lack of integrated GPU is one the reasons I decided against going Ryzen. I love fail-safe redundancy and low-power.
I totally get wanting a fail-safe, but, the Bristol Ridge APUs aren't low-power (relatively speaking), and you're better off using a cheap discrete GPU for failsafe testing. I personally have an Nvidia 8400 GS that I use for such things.
And I cant remember the number of times my Intel HD saved me from borked video driver installation.
Out of curiosity: What exactly are you doing to your drivers to cause numerous scenarios where you need to depend on the Intel graphics? I've done some unusual configurations, such as AMD graphics with Nvidia PhysX, transferring a Windows install to a completely different set of hardware (including motherboard and CPU), and modified GPU BIOSes with pre-set overclocks. And yet, I have never needed to depend on the integrated graphics to get me back on my feet.
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#5497898 Posted on: 12/04/2017 05:39 PM
Out of curiosity: What exactly are you doing to your drivers to cause numerous scenarios where you need to depend on the Intel graphics? I've done some unusual configurations, such as AMD graphics with Nvidia PhysX, transferring a Windows install to a completely different set of hardware (including motherboard and CPU), and modified GPU BIOSes with pre-set overclocks. And yet, I have never needed to depend on the integrated graphics to get me back on my feet.
OK I am exagerating slightly
I clearly remember using Intel HD two times to get out of borked video driver installation.
And once I used DDU, ended up with the even bigger mess, and again saved by IGP.
Out of curiosity: What exactly are you doing to your drivers to cause numerous scenarios where you need to depend on the Intel graphics? I've done some unusual configurations, such as AMD graphics with Nvidia PhysX, transferring a Windows install to a completely different set of hardware (including motherboard and CPU), and modified GPU BIOSes with pre-set overclocks. And yet, I have never needed to depend on the integrated graphics to get me back on my feet.
OK I am exagerating slightly
I clearly remember using Intel HD two times to get out of borked video driver installation.
And once I used DDU, ended up with the even bigger mess, and again saved by IGP.
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#5497924 Posted on: 12/04/2017 06:32 PM
Vega 11 is replacement for Polaris , so not high end Vega 56,64 but RX570,580...
And for Zen they probably tweaked process to allow higher clocks hence 12nm nomenclature.
Vega 11 is replacement for Polaris , so not high end Vega 56,64 but RX570,580...
And for Zen they probably tweaked process to allow higher clocks hence 12nm nomenclature.
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#5497952 Posted on: 12/04/2017 08:03 PM
Is silly when the most expensive, most feature packed boards cheap out by not providing video out, is all.
Sometimes down the road when Muon Lake and Zen4+ are released, I might wanna stick APU in my ole board and use it as whatevah...
It might sound silly to some, but the lack of integrated GPU is one the reasons I decided against going Ryzen. I love fail-safe redundancy and low-power.
And I cant remember the number of times my Intel HD saved me from borked video driver installation.
clearly you are more than a guru by association
old school troubleshooting rules.
but... honestly never had a problem (other than typical launch issues) with Ryzen 1700 or Threadripper.
but there was a few times pre-post that i had my sphincter clenched
but i was more worried about seating that massive cpu...
Is silly when the most expensive, most feature packed boards cheap out by not providing video out, is all.
Sometimes down the road when Muon Lake and Zen4+ are released, I might wanna stick APU in my ole board and use it as whatevah...
It might sound silly to some, but the lack of integrated GPU is one the reasons I decided against going Ryzen. I love fail-safe redundancy and low-power.
And I cant remember the number of times my Intel HD saved me from borked video driver installation.
clearly you are more than a guru by association
old school troubleshooting rules.
but... honestly never had a problem (other than typical launch issues) with Ryzen 1700 or Threadripper.
but there was a few times pre-post that i had my sphincter clenched
but i was more worried about seating that massive cpu...
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#5500009 Posted on: 12/11/2017 02:00 PM
But I did not have to physically swap anything. Another GPU is already sitting in my rig for fail-safe purposes and for debugging.
Borked video driver installation? HAHA is that even a serious question.
Integrated graphics saving me once(!) from having to reinstall OS, means its worth having it.
Yes, that's a serious question. I work in IT support at a major multinational company where in just our office we have around 100 PCs going through installation every week. Not a single time do we have videodrivers fail to install.. Of course, we're supporting Quadro cards and such, so we aren't running all the latest beta drivers and so on, but doing that outside the office all the time puts me in the same "HAHA is that even a serious issue" thing going right back at you...
But I did not have to physically swap anything. Another GPU is already sitting in my rig for fail-safe purposes and for debugging.
Borked video driver installation? HAHA is that even a serious question.
Integrated graphics saving me once(!) from having to reinstall OS, means its worth having it.
Yes, that's a serious question. I work in IT support at a major multinational company where in just our office we have around 100 PCs going through installation every week. Not a single time do we have videodrivers fail to install.. Of course, we're supporting Quadro cards and such, so we aren't running all the latest beta drivers and so on, but doing that outside the office all the time puts me in the same "HAHA is that even a serious issue" thing going right back at you...
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#5500129 Posted on: 12/11/2017 07:39 PM
Not really, because nobody buys high-end desktop/gaming boards with the intent of using integrated graphics, let alone from one packaged with a low-end APU. It doesn't seem like you did your research, for either the motherboard or the APU. This isn't the motherboard manufacturer's fault.
I totally get wanting a fail-safe, but, the Bristol Ridge APUs aren't low-power (relatively speaking), and you're better off using a cheap discrete GPU for failsafe testing. I personally have an Nvidia 8400 GS that I use for such things.
Out of curiosity: What exactly are you doing to your drivers to cause numerous scenarios where you need to depend on the Intel graphics? I've done some unusual configurations, such as AMD graphics with Nvidia PhysX, transferring a Windows install to a completely different set of hardware (including motherboard and CPU), and modified GPU BIOSes with pre-set overclocks. And yet, I have never needed to depend on the integrated graphics to get me back on my feet.
One thing to note too, AMD right now is not releasing any unlocked APU. Meaning if you have a stock Raven Ridge, the most you're going to get from the cpu side at least is the turbo boost. GPU overclocking should be possible as it was with past locked APU's, but memory clocking is one thing I will say that will save these little guys performance wise.
Not really, because nobody buys high-end desktop/gaming boards with the intent of using integrated graphics, let alone from one packaged with a low-end APU. It doesn't seem like you did your research, for either the motherboard or the APU. This isn't the motherboard manufacturer's fault.
I totally get wanting a fail-safe, but, the Bristol Ridge APUs aren't low-power (relatively speaking), and you're better off using a cheap discrete GPU for failsafe testing. I personally have an Nvidia 8400 GS that I use for such things.
Out of curiosity: What exactly are you doing to your drivers to cause numerous scenarios where you need to depend on the Intel graphics? I've done some unusual configurations, such as AMD graphics with Nvidia PhysX, transferring a Windows install to a completely different set of hardware (including motherboard and CPU), and modified GPU BIOSes with pre-set overclocks. And yet, I have never needed to depend on the integrated graphics to get me back on my feet.
One thing to note too, AMD right now is not releasing any unlocked APU. Meaning if you have a stock Raven Ridge, the most you're going to get from the cpu side at least is the turbo boost. GPU overclocking should be possible as it was with past locked APU's, but memory clocking is one thing I will say that will save these little guys performance wise.
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#5500153 Posted on: 12/11/2017 08:13 PM
That is true, though I think an overclocked Bristol Ridge isn't going to impress compared to a stock Ryzen APU. Besides, Ryzen has underwhelming overclockability anyway (OCing is one of Ryzen's only shortcomings). If there's a model that turbos to 4GHz, there's not much reason to want to overclock it anyway.
One thing to note too, AMD right now is not releasing any unlocked APU. Meaning if you have a stock Raven Ridge, the most you're going to get from the cpu side at least is the turbo boost. GPU overclocking should be possible as it was with past locked APU's, but memory clocking is one thing I will say that will save these little guys performance wise.
That is true, though I think an overclocked Bristol Ridge isn't going to impress compared to a stock Ryzen APU. Besides, Ryzen has underwhelming overclockability anyway (OCing is one of Ryzen's only shortcomings). If there's a model that turbos to 4GHz, there's not much reason to want to overclock it anyway.
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I'm pretty sure it will use an updated process, besides the usual tweakings https://www.globalfoundries.com/news-events/press-releases/globalfoundries-introduces-new-12nm-finfet-technology-for-high-performance-applications