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AMD CEO Lisa Su: High-end Navi GPU and Radeon Raytracing is coming
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Is real-time ray-tracing in graphics going to be as big as NVIDIA says it is?
LS: I’ve said in the past that ray tracing is important, and I still believe that, but if you look at where we are today it is still very early. We are investing heavily in ray tracing and investing heavily in the ecosystem around it – both of our console partners have also said that they are using ray tracing. You should expect that our discrete graphics as we go through 2020 will also have ray tracing. I do believe though it is still very early, and the ecosystem needs to develop. We need more games and more software and more applications to take advantage of it. At AMD, we feel very good about our position on ray tracing.
Do you think that AMD has to have a high-end competitor in the discrete graphics market?
LS: [laughs] I know those on Reddit want a high end Navi! You should expect that we will have a high-end Navi, and that it is important to have it. The discrete graphics market, especially at the high end, is very important to us. So you should expect that we will have a high-end Navi, although I don’t usually comment on unannounced products.
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#5748799 Posted on: 01/08/2020 09:08 AM
Big Navi will most likely be rdna2 later this year. 56/64cu 5800/5900xt incoming.
Big Navi will most likely be rdna2 later this year. 56/64cu 5800/5900xt incoming.
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#5748802 Posted on: 01/08/2020 09:15 AM
Whatever it is, it will battle with the Ampere, and it will be somewhat competitive (maybe not to the top card of Nvidia), just like we used to know from AMD.
Raytracing, I'm still curious to see if it there will be specialised HW (cores) or if they do brute force mode via compute and software.
But the one thing that I take away from this, they will have some RT, but just like with Nvidia right now, the performance won't be anything like we expect. So hold your horses, still no 4K60 full ray tracing incoming in 2020 from any competitor (and with full RT I'm meaning, not just a single effect like RT global illumination, the other RT reflections, third game some other aspect, but ALL of it in one scene).
Whatever it is, it will battle with the Ampere, and it will be somewhat competitive (maybe not to the top card of Nvidia), just like we used to know from AMD.
Raytracing, I'm still curious to see if it there will be specialised HW (cores) or if they do brute force mode via compute and software.
But the one thing that I take away from this, they will have some RT, but just like with Nvidia right now, the performance won't be anything like we expect. So hold your horses, still no 4K60 full ray tracing incoming in 2020 from any competitor (and with full RT I'm meaning, not just a single effect like RT global illumination, the other RT reflections, third game some other aspect, but ALL of it in one scene).
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#5748805 Posted on: 01/08/2020 09:22 AM
All I care about is solid raster performance. In addition to that if they can provide ray tracing without special dedicated hardware on the chip ("cough" "cough" turding which doesn't do anything most of the time and just sits around) we can have a wonderful product most certainly at a lower cost in comparison to Nvidia.
Never ever again I will spend more than 500EUR on a GPU, if they will go with 800-1000 EUR price range, that will be a strong pass from me.
All I care about is solid raster performance. In addition to that if they can provide ray tracing without special dedicated hardware on the chip ("cough" "cough" turding which doesn't do anything most of the time and just sits around) we can have a wonderful product most certainly at a lower cost in comparison to Nvidia.
Never ever again I will spend more than 500EUR on a GPU, if they will go with 800-1000 EUR price range, that will be a strong pass from me.
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#5748808 Posted on: 01/08/2020 09:28 AM
They said dedicated hw will be used for rt. Amd will also need some similiar feature to dlss (hopefuly better).
They said dedicated hw will be used for rt. Amd will also need some similiar feature to dlss (hopefuly better).
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#5748814 Posted on: 01/08/2020 09:48 AM
I see. In terms of DLSS, they sort of already have which works better (imo) - lower game resolution + use AMD sharpening. I've tried this method with several titles, works flawlessly.
Truth is, either I'm getting less picky, but for example in The Blair WItch game, I lowered resolution one step down from 1440p (used in game 90% slider) slapped on top of it sharpening, and in combination with TXAA I couldn't notice any difference.
Image was the same, performance was better (at least you couldn't notice any major blurring at all).
They said dedicated hw will be used for rt. Amd will also need some similiar feature to dlss (hopefuly better).
I see. In terms of DLSS, they sort of already have which works better (imo) - lower game resolution + use AMD sharpening. I've tried this method with several titles, works flawlessly.
Truth is, either I'm getting less picky, but for example in The Blair WItch game, I lowered resolution one step down from 1440p (used in game 90% slider) slapped on top of it sharpening, and in combination with TXAA I couldn't notice any difference.
Image was the same, performance was better (at least you couldn't notice any major blurring at all).
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#5748828 Posted on: 01/08/2020 10:22 AM
Never ever again I will spend more than 500EUR on a GPU, if they will go with 800-1000 EUR price range, that will be a strong pass from me.
Look at the price of a 5700 XT right now, and then imagine how much room there is between those and your 500 EUR to put a new card. None. 5700 XT already spans from say ~390 to ~480 EUR, a true high-end card will not be below 500, not even close.
Never ever again I will spend more than 500EUR on a GPU, if they will go with 800-1000 EUR price range, that will be a strong pass from me.
Look at the price of a 5700 XT right now, and then imagine how much room there is between those and your 500 EUR to put a new card. None. 5700 XT already spans from say ~390 to ~480 EUR, a true high-end card will not be below 500, not even close.
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#5748830 Posted on: 01/08/2020 10:25 AM
They should fix their stuff before launching new cards, 5700 series has been plagued with countless bugs since launch, especially drivers, and bioses.
They should fix their stuff before launching new cards, 5700 series has been plagued with countless bugs since launch, especially drivers, and bioses.
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#5748831 Posted on: 01/08/2020 10:28 AM
And? You are very good at basic math, congratulations. But what is your point? Did you even read what I wrote?
It can cost two grand for all I care. If 500 get me a mid-range, that's what I will settle for. Never again above that.
Look at the price of a 5700 XT right now, and then imagine how much room there is between those and your 500 EUR to put a new card. None. 5700 XT already spans from say ~390 to ~480 EUR, a true high-end card will not be below 500, not even close.
And? You are very good at basic math, congratulations. But what is your point? Did you even read what I wrote?
It can cost two grand for all I care. If 500 get me a mid-range, that's what I will settle for. Never again above that.
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#5748833 Posted on: 01/08/2020 10:32 AM
You have one and talking from your experience or you just guessing?
They should fix their stuff before launching new cards, 5700 series has been plagued with countless bugs since launch, especially drivers, and bioses.
You have one and talking from your experience or you just guessing?
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#5748836 Posted on: 01/08/2020 10:39 AM
Almost firsthand experience (i made a friend buy a 5700XT and i've been dealing with its problems until a few days ago when we decided to return it) and AMD forums and reddit section.
You have one and talking from your experience or you just guessing?
Almost firsthand experience (i made a friend buy a 5700XT and i've been dealing with its problems until a few days ago when we decided to return it) and AMD forums and reddit section.
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#5748838 Posted on: 01/08/2020 10:47 AM
I never heard Hilbert complaining how 5700's are unusable and broken and the guy reviewed and recommended like 20 of them.
Almost firsthand experience (i made a friend buy a 5700XT and i've been dealing with its problems until a few days ago when we decided to return it) and AMD forums and reddit section.
I never heard Hilbert complaining how 5700's are unusable and broken and the guy reviewed and recommended like 20 of them.
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#5748840 Posted on: 01/08/2020 10:49 AM
I haven't had a single issue with my card, neither hardware nor software. It works flawlessly and stable.
What are the issues your friend is facing?
Almost firsthand experience (i made a friend buy a 5700XT and i've been dealing with its problems until a few days ago when we decided to return it) and AMD forums and reddit section.
I haven't had a single issue with my card, neither hardware nor software. It works flawlessly and stable.
What are the issues your friend is facing?
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#5748844 Posted on: 01/08/2020 10:58 AM
Just guessing here, but, I expect it to be the desktop equivalent to the Xbox Series X gpu, except with higher clocks etc.
It'll be a very important product from AMD for sure though.
Just guessing here, but, I expect it to be the desktop equivalent to the Xbox Series X gpu, except with higher clocks etc.
It'll be a very important product from AMD for sure though.
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#5748845 Posted on: 01/08/2020 11:04 AM
I never heard Hilbert complaining how 5700's are unusable and broken and the guy reviewed and recommended like 20 of them.
I haven't had a single issue with my card, neither hardware nor software. It works flawlessly and stable.
What are the issues your friend is facing?
Problems with fanstop which cannot be disabled in one bios, and with the other you need to load the profile manually otherwise the fan will work with the default one, videogames crashing to desktop, and once or twice he Bsod. Don't act like there's never anything wrong with AMD, because when it comes to videocards there's often something wrong, And this ain't an isolated thing, like i said visit AMD community support forum, and AMD's reddit section, there's plenty of these problems, especially drivers as of now.
I never heard Hilbert complaining how 5700's are unusable and broken and the guy reviewed and recommended like 20 of them.
I haven't had a single issue with my card, neither hardware nor software. It works flawlessly and stable.
What are the issues your friend is facing?
Problems with fanstop which cannot be disabled in one bios, and with the other you need to load the profile manually otherwise the fan will work with the default one, videogames crashing to desktop, and once or twice he Bsod. Don't act like there's never anything wrong with AMD, because when it comes to videocards there's often something wrong, And this ain't an isolated thing, like i said visit AMD community support forum, and AMD's reddit section, there's plenty of these problems, especially drivers as of now.
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