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So that dual-core, four threaded budget AMD Athlon 200GE that was announced last week probably could have been really interesting as a low-cost processor. And everything that is low-cost, people like to tweak right. Well, from the looks of it, the AMD Athlon 200GE will not have unlocked multipliers/
If you peek at the Athlon 200GE product page, then according to the AMD website, the new processor would not be overclockable. From the top of my mind, I think this proc would be the very first ZEN CPU where the multiplier is locked, all other Zen-based chips are overclockable.
Aah, the days of unlocking an Athlon processor with a pencil, where are though :)
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#5582925 Posted on: 09/10/2018 09:43 AM
I can see AMD limiting overclocking and under clocking their graphics cards out the box to give the same misleading impression Nvidia gives.
They do themselves no favours allowing enthusiasts the ability to overclock but when they take it away people complain but if they keep the option open people complain about power.
Loose loose.
I can see AMD limiting overclocking and under clocking their graphics cards out the box to give the same misleading impression Nvidia gives.
They do themselves no favours allowing enthusiasts the ability to overclock but when they take it away people complain but if they keep the option open people complain about power.
Loose loose.
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#5582936 Posted on: 09/10/2018 10:11 AM
Considering that there are 220GE and 240GE...
Considering that there are 220GE and 240GE...
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#5583107 Posted on: 09/10/2018 06:09 PM
I can see AMD limiting overclocking and under clocking their graphics cards out the box to give the same misleading impression Nvidia gives.
They do themselves no favours allowing enthusiasts the ability to overclock but when they take it away people complain but if they keep the option open people complain about power.
Loose loose.
That's because these aren't enthusiast products... they're entry level budget products. You're basically complaining that a product can't do something that it shouldn't be able to do in the first place.
I can see AMD limiting overclocking and under clocking their graphics cards out the box to give the same misleading impression Nvidia gives.
They do themselves no favours allowing enthusiasts the ability to overclock but when they take it away people complain but if they keep the option open people complain about power.
Loose loose.
That's because these aren't enthusiast products... they're entry level budget products. You're basically complaining that a product can't do something that it shouldn't be able to do in the first place.
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#5583168 Posted on: 09/10/2018 08:18 PM
So now you're a proponent of having separate overclockable enthusiast chips and vanilla non-overclockable ones? I could have sworn i remember you beating up on Intel over doing this with K and non-K product lines. If I am mistaken, my apologies. That is though an often repeated criticism of Intel by the AMD crowd.
So now you're a proponent of having separate overclockable enthusiast chips and vanilla non-overclockable ones? I could have sworn i remember you beating up on Intel over doing this with K and non-K product lines. If I am mistaken, my apologies. That is though an often repeated criticism of Intel by the AMD crowd.
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#5583169 Posted on: 09/10/2018 08:22 PM
These are not i5 &i7 cpus, and it was rather recent that the i3 was available with a k version. What are you barking about?
Nice low end chips. @Andrew LB
These are not i5 &i7 cpus, and it was rather recent that the i3 was available with a k version. What are you barking about?
Nice low end chips. @Andrew LB
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#5583173 Posted on: 09/10/2018 08:31 PM
I don't recall ever saying such a thing. I'm perfectly fine with Intel's mobile CPUs, Celerons, Xeons and low-end parts having no overclockability, because OCing them is generally a stupid idea for these. That's most of Intel's product lineup which I feel shouldn't be able to OC. As Embra pointed out, we're talking cheap low-end hardware here. As far as I'm concerned, an i5 or i7 with a locked multiplier is purely artificial. You could argue that maybe the silicon quality isn't as great, but in the vast majority of cases, people run into thermal or power issues before silicon quality affects their overclock. So when it comes to high-end hardware, putting a limit on overclocking is kinda dumb.
So now you're a proponent of having separate overclockable enthusiast chips and vanilla non-overclockable ones? I could have sworn i remember you beating up on Intel over doing this with K and non-K product lines. If I am mistaken, my apologies. That is though an often repeated criticism of Intel by the AMD crowd.
I don't recall ever saying such a thing. I'm perfectly fine with Intel's mobile CPUs, Celerons, Xeons and low-end parts having no overclockability, because OCing them is generally a stupid idea for these. That's most of Intel's product lineup which I feel shouldn't be able to OC. As Embra pointed out, we're talking cheap low-end hardware here. As far as I'm concerned, an i5 or i7 with a locked multiplier is purely artificial. You could argue that maybe the silicon quality isn't as great, but in the vast majority of cases, people run into thermal or power issues before silicon quality affects their overclock. So when it comes to high-end hardware, putting a limit on overclocking is kinda dumb.
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#5583175 Posted on: 09/10/2018 08:58 PM
Getting 5MHz on the BCLK is not really an overclock worth mentioning...
Locked multi =/= cant overclock.
Getting 5MHz on the BCLK is not really an overclock worth mentioning...
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#5583192 Posted on: 09/10/2018 09:39 PM
And board capable to do that is not something you would put 200GE on anyway. Those GE chips go to prebuilt systems for offices.
Getting 5MHz on the BCLK is not really an overclock worth mentioning...
And board capable to do that is not something you would put 200GE on anyway. Those GE chips go to prebuilt systems for offices.
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Ah, sad times. Still a good little CPU for the money.