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Alleged specifications of AMD AM5 emerge: slightly bigger than Intels counterpart and DDR5
From the looks of things AMD will be moving to a new processor package next year, let's assume this AM5. On Twitter some info was shared and it looks to become at 1718 pin design based on a line-grid array or LGA much like intel uses (no pins anymore).
Socket AM5 would also be a notch bigger. The chips are expected to offer support for dual-channel ddr5 and, of course, PCIe 4.0. Yes, Ryzen seems to be sticking with PCIe 4.0. It was expected that the Raphael and Rembrandt generations would already use PCIe 5.0 for AM5.
- Dual-channel DDR5
- PCI-e 4.0
- 600 series chipset
This could also entail motherboards based on a 600 series chipset. The information provider is ExecutableFix, who built a reputation sharing pretty correct info like this. However, take it with a grain of salt as nothing has been confirmed even remotely. ExecutableFix also confirmed that the AM5 CPUs still have to do without PCI-e 5.0 - the latter is reserved exclusively for the Zen4 Genoa (EPYC) processors. The size of the CPU package should remain at 40mm of AM4, while the manufacturing process takes place at 5nm.
When AMD will bring the first AM5 CPUs onto the market remains to be seen. Rumor has it that these processors will run under the code name Raphael at AMD and appear sometime in 2022.
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#5914540 Posted on: 05/23/2021 11:42 AM
It's not like AM5 can't support PCIe 5, just maybe not in the beginning.
It probably consumes quite a lot of power as well at the moment.
It's just an I/O Die change.
The only place we're maxing out PCIe4 is in the Storage area, and even then, i'm not sure it's being maxed out anywhere other than Benchmarks, and maybe consoles.
What i'm more interested in, is what the extra Pins bring.
I'm not sure if DDR5 needs more pins, and it shouldn't need more power pins than AM4, so are we getting more PCIe lanes, or something ?
It's not like AM5 can't support PCIe 5, just maybe not in the beginning.
It probably consumes quite a lot of power as well at the moment.
It's just an I/O Die change.
The only place we're maxing out PCIe4 is in the Storage area, and even then, i'm not sure it's being maxed out anywhere other than Benchmarks, and maybe consoles.
What i'm more interested in, is what the extra Pins bring.
I'm not sure if DDR5 needs more pins, and it shouldn't need more power pins than AM4, so are we getting more PCIe lanes, or something ?
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#5914543 Posted on: 05/23/2021 11:55 AM
Pcie5 will probably come with future refreshes. Not that we saturated pcie4 yet.
Im kinda glad i still didnt upgrade my 2700x. Saving up for a new platform would be smartest thing than getting an overpriced zen3 cpu. Next year will be interesting indeed.
Pcie5 will probably come with future refreshes. Not that we saturated pcie4 yet.
Im kinda glad i still didnt upgrade my 2700x. Saving up for a new platform would be smartest thing than getting an overpriced zen3 cpu. Next year will be interesting indeed.
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#5914545 Posted on: 05/23/2021 12:02 PM
What i'm more interested in, is what the extra Pins bring.
I'm not sure if DDR5 needs more pins, and it shouldn't need more power pins than AM4, so are we getting more PCIe lanes, or something ?
Most of the CPU's pinout is dedicated for power/ground supply. DDR5 requires only few additional contacts over DDR4 and PCIe is even more "ascetic", so most of the new pins are to provide better power supply for high TDP SKUs.
By the way, that "dual-channel DDR5" from the tweet is a bit misleading, since each DDR5 DIMM is already dual channel per definition.
What i'm more interested in, is what the extra Pins bring.
I'm not sure if DDR5 needs more pins, and it shouldn't need more power pins than AM4, so are we getting more PCIe lanes, or something ?
Most of the CPU's pinout is dedicated for power/ground supply. DDR5 requires only few additional contacts over DDR4 and PCIe is even more "ascetic", so most of the new pins are to provide better power supply for high TDP SKUs.
By the way, that "dual-channel DDR5" from the tweet is a bit misleading, since each DDR5 DIMM is already dual channel per definition.
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#5914550 Posted on: 05/23/2021 12:28 PM
Pcie5 will probably come with future refreshes. Not that we saturated pcie4 yet.
Im kinda glad i still didnt upgrade my 2700x. Saving up for a new platform would be smartest thing than getting an overpriced zen3 cpu. Next year will be interesting indeed.
For me im glad i upgraded to zen 3 and a new rtx cards, im mostly a gamer and with the new console that just came out, i shouldnt need to upgrade for a while to get a good gaming experience, probably not until the next gen of consoles
Pcie5 will probably come with future refreshes. Not that we saturated pcie4 yet.
Im kinda glad i still didnt upgrade my 2700x. Saving up for a new platform would be smartest thing than getting an overpriced zen3 cpu. Next year will be interesting indeed.
For me im glad i upgraded to zen 3 and a new rtx cards, im mostly a gamer and with the new console that just came out, i shouldnt need to upgrade for a while to get a good gaming experience, probably not until the next gen of consoles
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AM4 gave us unmatched generation support, let's hope that the forthcoming AM5 will provide the same support across CPU generations.