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65 Watt TDP 12-core Ryzen 9 3900 Overclocked LCS and LN2 (Updated)
AMD still has got a few surprises left for the desktop Ryzen 3000 series, we expect the 3500, the 3950X but as it seems a Ryzen 9 3900 is inbound as well, that part would be pretty amazing at it would over 12 cores / 24 threads with a base-clock of 3.1 GHz and only a 65 Watt TDP.
It was motherboard manufacturer Biostar that spilled the beans, as it referenced the Ryzen 9 3900 as motherboard compatible. It is assumed the boost clock is 4.2 GHz for this part. The base clock is 700 MHz lower than that of the Ryzen 9 3900X in order to match that TDP of 65 watts.
Update:
The processor already turned up in a Ryzen Pro model, but now as well in some benchmarks and set an overclocking record even. Toms hardware reported that overclocker Allen "Splave" Golibersuch overclocked a non-official AMD Ryzen 9 3900, and with he help of liquid nitrogen reached an impressive 5.5 GHz. With 4,319 points Cinebench doesn't look bad either, Geekbench 3 was enough for 6,924 points in the single-core score and 77,106 points in the multi-core score.
With a Enermax Liqtech II AiO liquid cooling Golibersuch reached 4.35 GHz on all cores at a voltage of 1.375 volts, which showed 3,420 points in the Cinebench R15. Unknown still remains what the processor will cost and when it will appear.
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#5714593 Posted on: 09/26/2019 09:45 AM
Seems like this would be a replacement for the 3700x
Seems like this would be a replacement for the 3700x
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#5714596 Posted on: 09/26/2019 09:47 AM
Ehm, no .. they just are covering and filling every segment of the market. Word right now is that the 3950X is managing the 4.7 GHz Turbo fine, but that the all-core base frequency is the challenge.
Well it's seems that AMD can't yet achieve the binning of higher CPU frequency that's why it's focusing on lower speed CPUs
Ehm, no .. they just are covering and filling every segment of the market. Word right now is that the 3950X is managing the 4.7 GHz Turbo fine, but that the all-core base frequency is the challenge.
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#5714597 Posted on: 09/26/2019 09:52 AM
You can have this CPU right now if you underclock your 3900X...
You can have this CPU right now if you underclock your 3900X...
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#5714601 Posted on: 09/26/2019 10:08 AM
Seeing how AMD doesn't seem to suffer from supply problems with anything but the 3900X, they can afford to use the chiplets for various CPU models that don't require the best of the best. In the end it's very good news for the consumers if they have a wide spectrum with smaller price differences between the models. You can aim your budget closer to the exact limit.
Seeing how AMD doesn't seem to suffer from supply problems with anything but the 3900X, they can afford to use the chiplets for various CPU models that don't require the best of the best. In the end it's very good news for the consumers if they have a wide spectrum with smaller price differences between the models. You can aim your budget closer to the exact limit.
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#5714617 Posted on: 09/26/2019 11:38 AM
or you can get the 3900 and overclock it as a 3900x with less money
You can have this CPU right now if you underclock your 3900X...
or you can get the 3900 and overclock it as a 3900x with less money
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#5714627 Posted on: 09/26/2019 12:30 PM
The only reason I can see them releasing a 3900 is to use the chiplets that don't meet the 3900X standards. And thinking about it, I'm not sure where the 3900 would sit price wise without an entire lineup price reshuffle. which I find unlikely.
or you can get the 3900 and overclock it as a 3900x with less money
The only reason I can see them releasing a 3900 is to use the chiplets that don't meet the 3900X standards. And thinking about it, I'm not sure where the 3900 would sit price wise without an entire lineup price reshuffle. which I find unlikely.
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#5714628 Posted on: 09/26/2019 12:33 PM
Exactly!
The only reason I can see them releasing a 3900 is to use the chiplets that don't meet the 3900X standards. And thinking about it, I'm not sure where the 3900 would sit price wise without an entire lineup price reshuffle. which I find unlikely.
Exactly!
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#5714630 Posted on: 09/26/2019 12:36 PM
I'm happy to see AMD making strides on the low power front. Low power and ultra low power cpu's are in very high demand, and they bring a lot of cpu bang to the table and very reasonable power/heat cost.
I'm happy to see AMD making strides on the low power front. Low power and ultra low power cpu's are in very high demand, and they bring a lot of cpu bang to the table and very reasonable power/heat cost.
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#5714636 Posted on: 09/26/2019 12:59 PM
I would argue with this...really..
In the process of trying to bin the best for 3950x and 3900x, what would you do with the ones that do not qualify? melt them?
- that is going to cost a lot more -
They are trying to:
Use this to recover from the poor/bad binning process and as well try to fit a new product on the market.
THIS IS GENIUS REALLY from AMD SIDE!
Ehm, no .. they just are covering and filling every segment of the market. Word right now is that the 3950X is managing the 4.7 GHz Turbo fine, but that the all-core base frequency is the challenge.
I would argue with this...really..
In the process of trying to bin the best for 3950x and 3900x, what would you do with the ones that do not qualify? melt them?
- that is going to cost a lot more -
They are trying to:
Use this to recover from the poor/bad binning process and as well try to fit a new product on the market.
THIS IS GENIUS REALLY from AMD SIDE!
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#5714657 Posted on: 09/26/2019 01:38 PM
It is obvious AMD wouldn't throw away 3900X that wouldn't reach the target, so they rebrand them as 3900 and sell them cheaper.
I'm sure it will be a killer upgrade for someone coming from Ryzen 1000 or even some of the 2000 models.
Any BIOS updated board can deal with 65W TDP just fine.
It is obvious AMD wouldn't throw away 3900X that wouldn't reach the target, so they rebrand them as 3900 and sell them cheaper.
I'm sure it will be a killer upgrade for someone coming from Ryzen 1000 or even some of the 2000 models.
Any BIOS updated board can deal with 65W TDP just fine.
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#5714671 Posted on: 09/26/2019 02:06 PM
Two glued together 3600 ;-)
What AMD is doing with these chiplets thing is awesome !
No chip(let) goes into the bin, even if it's really really bad out of the production line - As long as it can still compute, somebody will buy it.
Can't wait to see dirt cheap 4-core Ryzen 3s that would be perfect for a very low cost office computer or for mom&pop computer who sits idle or off 99% of the time.
Two glued together 3600 ;-)
What AMD is doing with these chiplets thing is awesome !
No chip(let) goes into the bin, even if it's really really bad out of the production line - As long as it can still compute, somebody will buy it.
Can't wait to see dirt cheap 4-core Ryzen 3s that would be perfect for a very low cost office computer or for mom&pop computer who sits idle or off 99% of the time.
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#5714707 Posted on: 09/26/2019 03:38 PM
So rarely do I disagree with your viewpoint but I have to disagree. It's very obvious TSMC's process is very immature. All you have to do is look at the data on cores in each chiplet and see how much variance there is on max clocks for core in each chiplet. This variance is all process and has nothing to do with chip design. This lack of consistency is what is hurting the all core frequencies. Im positive this is why we are seeing lower binned parts coming out now instead of at launch. Hopefully TSMC's 7nm+ fixes the issues because frankly AMD would be dominant if every chiplet was able to hit 4.7Ghz on every core like only a few binned ones can do for a single core on each chiplet.
Ehm, no .. they just are covering and filling every segment of the market. Word right now is that the 3950X is managing the 4.7 GHz Turbo fine, but that the all-core base frequency is the challenge.
So rarely do I disagree with your viewpoint but I have to disagree. It's very obvious TSMC's process is very immature. All you have to do is look at the data on cores in each chiplet and see how much variance there is on max clocks for core in each chiplet. This variance is all process and has nothing to do with chip design. This lack of consistency is what is hurting the all core frequencies. Im positive this is why we are seeing lower binned parts coming out now instead of at launch. Hopefully TSMC's 7nm+ fixes the issues because frankly AMD would be dominant if every chiplet was able to hit 4.7Ghz on every core like only a few binned ones can do for a single core on each chiplet.
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#5714712 Posted on: 09/26/2019 04:03 PM
A low wattage 12 core CPU like this would be awesome in a NAS/Home Server environment running 24/7 VMs like butter.
A low wattage 12 core CPU like this would be awesome in a NAS/Home Server environment running 24/7 VMs like butter.
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#5714715 Posted on: 09/26/2019 04:07 PM
I would argue with this...really..
In the process of trying to bin the best for 3950x and 3900x, what would you do with the ones that do not qualify? melt them?
- that is going to cost a lot more -
They are trying to:
Use this to recover from the poor/bad binning process and as well try to fit a new product on the market.
THIS IS GENIUS REALLY from AMD SIDE!
Chiplet that does not meet 3950X requirements goes to 3800X or 3700X.
Chiplet that does not meet 3900X requirements goes to 3600X or 3600.
Considering 3600 is 3.6~4.2GHz chip, 3900 in this thread is lowest matching as it is 3.1~4.2GHz.
I would argue with this...really..
In the process of trying to bin the best for 3950x and 3900x, what would you do with the ones that do not qualify? melt them?
- that is going to cost a lot more -
They are trying to:
Use this to recover from the poor/bad binning process and as well try to fit a new product on the market.
THIS IS GENIUS REALLY from AMD SIDE!
Chiplet that does not meet 3950X requirements goes to 3800X or 3700X.
Chiplet that does not meet 3900X requirements goes to 3600X or 3600.
Considering 3600 is 3.6~4.2GHz chip, 3900 in this thread is lowest matching as it is 3.1~4.2GHz.
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Well it's seems that AMD can't yet achieve the binning of higher CPU frequency that's why it's focusing on lower speed CPUs