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4K UHD Netflix content on NVIDIA GPUs (update) MS Pulls Free HEVC Support
Nvidia updated its support pages with an update on 4K UHD Netflix content playback in relation to the Windows 10 Fall Creators Update. Below the fold an overview of options, necessities. Something Nvidia notes, HEVC codec is no longer free. Microsoft requires you to purchase a license.
4K UHD Netflix content on NVIDIA GPUs To enable Netflix UHD playback, the following is required:
- NVIDIA Driver version 387.96 or newer driver. No older GeForce driver will support this functionality at this time
- NVIDIA Pascal based GPU or newer, GeForce GTX 1050 or greater with minimum 3GB memory
- HDCP 2.2 capable monitor(s). Please see the additional section below if you are using multiple monitors and/or multiple GPUs.
- Microsoft Edge browser or Netflix app from the Windows Store
- Microsoft Windows 10 Fall Creators Update (10.0.16299 Build 16299 or newer):
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4028685/windows-10-get-the-fall-creators-update - Approximately 25Mbps (or faster) internet connection.
Single or multi GPU multi monitor configuration
In case of a multi monitor configuration on a single GPU or multiple GPUs where GPUs are not linked together in SLI/LDA mode, 4K UHD streaming will happen only if all the active monitors are HDCP2.2 capable. If any of the active monitors is not HDCP2.2 capable, the quality will be downgraded to FHD. Below is a sample table for the case of 2 monitors:
|
Monitor 1 |
Monitor 2 |
Expected Stream Quality |
|
HDCP2.2 (active) |
HDCP2.2 (active) |
4K UHD |
|
HDCP2.2 (active) |
HDCP1.X (connected but not active) |
4K UHD |
|
HDCP2.2 (active) |
HDCP1.X (active) |
FHD |
SLI configuration
Currently, 4K UHD streaming is not supported for SLI/LDA configurations. However, if the GPUs are not linked together in SLI/LDA mode, 4K UHD streaming will work fine if all of the active monitors are HDCP2.2 capable.
Please note. If you are using a fresh install of Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, you may need to go to the Windows store to purchase the HEVC codec to playback Netflix 4K/HDR content. Microsoft no longer provides this for free.
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#5493160 Posted on: 11/17/2017 01:48 PM
Why do they make it so hard to view 4k content?
Why do they make it so hard to view 4k content?
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#5493176 Posted on: 11/17/2017 02:27 PM
I read this and thought... Man are they serious...... Since 387.92 HDR in nvidia drivers is totally bricked in relation to HDR and movies. If you watch a HDR demo in a player like MPC-HC the nvidia drivers enable HDR just fine, they do not disable HDR once the playback has ended however (crash). This causes all sorts of issues with anything you do after.... In effect HDR is locked on, even in win7 on the desktop (which has no HDR setting). Then when you try and watch a SDR movie all colors are washed out because HDMI is still outputting BT.2020. Whats worse, there is no way to turn HDR off again. You need to re install the driver to reset it.
I reported this to nvidia over a month ago and got a support ticket... So far I have heard nothing and there are multiple people with this problem, both on win7 and win10.
I read this and thought... Man are they serious...... Since 387.92 HDR in nvidia drivers is totally bricked in relation to HDR and movies. If you watch a HDR demo in a player like MPC-HC the nvidia drivers enable HDR just fine, they do not disable HDR once the playback has ended however (crash). This causes all sorts of issues with anything you do after.... In effect HDR is locked on, even in win7 on the desktop (which has no HDR setting). Then when you try and watch a SDR movie all colors are washed out because HDMI is still outputting BT.2020. Whats worse, there is no way to turn HDR off again. You need to re install the driver to reset it.
I reported this to nvidia over a month ago and got a support ticket... So far I have heard nothing and there are multiple people with this problem, both on win7 and win10.
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#5493181 Posted on: 11/17/2017 02:45 PM
If you are using a fresh install of Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, you may need to go to the Windows store to purchase the HEVC codec to playback Netflix 4K/HDR content. Microsoft no longer provides this for free.
It's still showing as free when I go to the store.
If you are using a fresh install of Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, you may need to go to the Windows store to purchase the HEVC codec to playback Netflix 4K/HDR content. Microsoft no longer provides this for free.
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#5493185 Posted on: 11/17/2017 02:52 PM
How much does it cost?
How much does it cost?
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#5493189 Posted on: 11/17/2017 03:05 PM
Sorry, should have said that I just logged into the store via a browser as I'm at work, also logged out and still not giving a price.
Is it this one?
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/hevc-video-extension/9n4wgh0z6vhq?lc=1033
If you are using a fresh install of Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, you may need to go to the Windows store to purchase the HEVC codec to playback Netflix 4K/HDR content. Microsoft no longer provides this for free.
Sorry, should have said that I just logged into the store via a browser as I'm at work, also logged out and still not giving a price.
Is it this one?
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/hevc-video-extension/9n4wgh0z6vhq?lc=1033
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#5493261 Posted on: 11/17/2017 05:56 PM
hahaha ;D are you still surprised? Awful...it's the matter of time until they will charge you for directx, basic codecs even cpu instructions extensions...such as avx...
hahaha ;D are you still surprised? Awful...it's the matter of time until they will charge you for directx, basic codecs even cpu instructions extensions...such as avx...
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#5493271 Posted on: 11/17/2017 06:20 PM
Easier to get a green card than watching 4k on a pc.
Premium prices, poor services.
Easier to get a green card than watching 4k on a pc.
Premium prices, poor services.
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#5493274 Posted on: 11/17/2017 06:23 PM
can any of us really say they find this shocking? i find this to be really stupid though one has to pay extra for 4k netflix service over the normal steaming service now, MS wants us to pay even more for the codec to just watch it on PC when ps4 pro and xbox x out right support it?, or is MS making xbox x people pay extra for it too..
either this is stupid, I undertand paying for the codec to CREATE content and only to point. but to just watch 4k content. then again i dont watch netflix on pc, I use my consoles or tv which already support 4k playback, but still
can any of us really say they find this shocking? i find this to be really stupid though one has to pay extra for 4k netflix service over the normal steaming service now, MS wants us to pay even more for the codec to just watch it on PC when ps4 pro and xbox x out right support it?, or is MS making xbox x people pay extra for it too..
either this is stupid, I undertand paying for the codec to CREATE content and only to point. but to just watch 4k content. then again i dont watch netflix on pc, I use my consoles or tv which already support 4k playback, but still
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#5493283 Posted on: 11/17/2017 06:42 PM
I read this and thought... Man are they serious...... Since 387.92 HDR in nvidia drivers is totally bricked in relation to HDR and movies. If you watch a HDR demo in a player like MPC-HC the nvidia drivers enable HDR just fine, they do not disable HDR once the playback has ended however (crash). This causes all sorts of issues with anything you do after.... In effect HDR is locked on, even in win7 on the desktop (which has no HDR setting). Then when you try and watch a SDR movie all colors are washed out because HDMI is still outputting BT.2020. Whats worse, there is no way to turn HDR off again. You need to re install the driver to reset it.
I reported this to nvidia over a month ago and got a support ticket... So far I have heard nothing and there are multiple people with this problem, both on win7 and win10.
What are you using to play HDR on MPC? It doesn't auto turn the HDR mode for me, im on latest version of MPC
I read this and thought... Man are they serious...... Since 387.92 HDR in nvidia drivers is totally bricked in relation to HDR and movies. If you watch a HDR demo in a player like MPC-HC the nvidia drivers enable HDR just fine, they do not disable HDR once the playback has ended however (crash). This causes all sorts of issues with anything you do after.... In effect HDR is locked on, even in win7 on the desktop (which has no HDR setting). Then when you try and watch a SDR movie all colors are washed out because HDMI is still outputting BT.2020. Whats worse, there is no way to turn HDR off again. You need to re install the driver to reset it.
I reported this to nvidia over a month ago and got a support ticket... So far I have heard nothing and there are multiple people with this problem, both on win7 and win10.
What are you using to play HDR on MPC? It doesn't auto turn the HDR mode for me, im on latest version of MPC
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#5493284 Posted on: 11/17/2017 06:50 PM
Try using Madvr with MPC HC http://madvr.com/
Anyway, why do we need to get an hevc codec from the store? MPC and VLC play hevc files just fine.
What are you using to play HDR on MPC? It doesn't auto turn the HDR mode for me, im on latest version of MPC
Try using Madvr with MPC HC http://madvr.com/
Anyway, why do we need to get an hevc codec from the store? MPC and VLC play hevc files just fine.
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#5493286 Posted on: 11/17/2017 06:58 PM
Screw it i'm just gonna pirate 4k, it's way less hassle than this bullcrap. If they make it more accessible than pirated content then we can talk again.
Screw it i'm just gonna pirate 4k, it's way less hassle than this bullcrap. If they make it more accessible than pirated content then we can talk again.
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#5493304 Posted on: 11/17/2017 07:53 PM
huh? I've been watching 4k content for quite a while now, just like 1080 and 720 before it, all this drama regarding intel cpus and hevc and hdcp2.2 whatever I just dont get it whether its a joke or news being sarcastic, its like the world is in a severe crisis, an extreme lack of problems, so now we have to fabricate brand new ones
then we have the whole gaming industry where people fund companies to punish them for some reason so they can complain on social media, is this how people have fun in 2017?
huh? I've been watching 4k content for quite a while now, just like 1080 and 720 before it, all this drama regarding intel cpus and hevc and hdcp2.2 whatever I just dont get it whether its a joke or news being sarcastic, its like the world is in a severe crisis, an extreme lack of problems, so now we have to fabricate brand new ones
then we have the whole gaming industry where people fund companies to punish them for some reason so they can complain on social media, is this how people have fun in 2017?
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#5493307 Posted on: 11/17/2017 08:06 PM
I have Netflix subscription but I prefer to illegally download 4K content. I only use Netflix when I am awake. When I sleep or I go outside, torrenting ftw. Why? I have any legit reason for that. I don't really like low quality image. And that's what Netflix really is most of the day tbh. They cannot and they are not really authorized to deny me better quality of service because of hardware - internet - tv or monitor limitations. And don't anyone tell me that I should upgrade subscription, I know the difference between 8, 10 and 12 euro/monthly plans and I pay the latter.
I have Netflix subscription but I prefer to illegally download 4K content. I only use Netflix when I am awake. When I sleep or I go outside, torrenting ftw. Why? I have any legit reason for that. I don't really like low quality image. And that's what Netflix really is most of the day tbh. They cannot and they are not really authorized to deny me better quality of service because of hardware - internet - tv or monitor limitations. And don't anyone tell me that I should upgrade subscription, I know the difference between 8, 10 and 12 euro/monthly plans and I pay the latter.
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#5493308 Posted on: 11/17/2017 08:07 PM
Warlord, i also tend to download Netflix shows. Mediaportal with Madvr gives me a much better experience than using the native PC app.
Try using Madvr with MPC HC http://madvr.com/
Anyway, why do we need to get an hevc codec from the store? MPC and VLC play hevc files just fine.
Yep, Madvr (afaik) is the only way to get HDR files to play correctly on a non HDR screen.
Im assuming this is just a system wide version, and possibly mandatory for the Netflix app.
Using Netflix on a PC has always been a joke though, it wasn't that long ago the crappy app on my old Tivo box was playing stuff at 1080p/24 but PC app was stuck at 480p.
Not all content tbf, original content was 1080p but certain studios were clearly telling Netflix to limit stuff to SD.
Anyone have a link to the Nvidia support page that states this, im home now but still failing at Google.
Warlord, i also tend to download Netflix shows. Mediaportal with Madvr gives me a much better experience than using the native PC app.
Try using Madvr with MPC HC http://madvr.com/
Anyway, why do we need to get an hevc codec from the store? MPC and VLC play hevc files just fine.
Yep, Madvr (afaik) is the only way to get HDR files to play correctly on a non HDR screen.
Im assuming this is just a system wide version, and possibly mandatory for the Netflix app.
Using Netflix on a PC has always been a joke though, it wasn't that long ago the crappy app on my old Tivo box was playing stuff at 1080p/24 but PC app was stuck at 480p.
Not all content tbf, original content was 1080p but certain studios were clearly telling Netflix to limit stuff to SD.
Anyone have a link to the Nvidia support page that states this, im home now but still failing at Google.
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It's still showing as free when I go to the store.