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2TB version Samsung 980 Pro with 136 Layer (V-NAND v6) surfaces in webshops
Samsung released its Samsung 980 Pro series in September last year, however only up to 1TB. Now a 2TB version has been spotted in etail.
Samsungs PCIe 4.0 SSDs dubbed the 980 Pro, are on that PCIe Gen 4.0 link, it achieves read speeds of up to 7 GB/s; as mentioned, the connection interface supports PCIe 4.0 x4, and the sequential access speed reaches up to 7,000 MB/s for reading and 5,000 MB/s for writing. IOPS are listed at 4K read/Write 1000k/1000k. The controller used is the Samsung Elpis (S4LV003) that utilizes 8 channels, next to a pSLC cache the unit has 2 GB of LPDDR4 DRAM. NAND is written as TLC and is based on the latest 136 Layer (V-NAND v6).
The new 2Tb version holds SKU code MZ-V8P2T0BW but is not yet listing at Samsung itself. The SSD should have a TBW value of at least 1,200 TB. Prices are indicating the 2TB version to cost anywhere from 400 to 500 EUR.
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#5880761 Posted on: 01/24/2021 07:20 PM
As Fox2232 said PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe is more of a bragging item right now.
I have a WD Black SN850 (7000/5100 so 2 TB version which is slower than 1 TB version) but I really can't feel the difference in loading times between this and my SSD Samsung 860 Evo for games and normal use - maybe when I compile and run a simulation library from work I can feel that the process is faster and the system feel snappier using the same drive for temp files during compile and so on...
The major difference for me is in temperature: WD black 51 degrees vs Samsung 28 degrees (idle)...in full load I've seen 75 degrees on WD...I will buy a custom heatsink since the one from the motherboard (thermal pad included) is not enough to cool this beast.
As Fox2232 said PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe is more of a bragging item right now.
I have a WD Black SN850 (7000/5100 so 2 TB version which is slower than 1 TB version) but I really can't feel the difference in loading times between this and my SSD Samsung 860 Evo for games and normal use - maybe when I compile and run a simulation library from work I can feel that the process is faster and the system feel snappier using the same drive for temp files during compile and so on...
The major difference for me is in temperature: WD black 51 degrees vs Samsung 28 degrees (idle)...in full load I've seen 75 degrees on WD...I will buy a custom heatsink since the one from the motherboard (thermal pad included) is not enough to cool this beast.
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#5880779 Posted on: 01/24/2021 08:44 PM
Heat and cost per gb or well tb at this point is why i wont have one these drive any time soon. I really hope the fact sony went to this extreme for storage on console it push the prices down on both Sata/NVMe dramaticly, but i higly doubt it
Seriously storage that hot as gpu under load? no thanks. and that if I was even will to pay the 400$ price tag the 2tb drives have, which i wont
If people got money for this for for, most people still have problems paying prices sata ssd have @ 1tb still, special when they see for that 100$ you can get4-5tb from hdd, and most people arnt creators or gamers or doing anything are heavy on i/o that they would notice it from there day to day routines at lest not enough to warrant such price tag
Heat and cost per gb or well tb at this point is why i wont have one these drive any time soon. I really hope the fact sony went to this extreme for storage on console it push the prices down on both Sata/NVMe dramaticly, but i higly doubt it
Seriously storage that hot as gpu under load? no thanks. and that if I was even will to pay the 400$ price tag the 2tb drives have, which i wont
If people got money for this for for, most people still have problems paying prices sata ssd have @ 1tb still, special when they see for that 100$ you can get4-5tb from hdd, and most people arnt creators or gamers or doing anything are heavy on i/o that they would notice it from there day to day routines at lest not enough to warrant such price tag
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#5880806 Posted on: 01/24/2021 10:01 PM
As Fox2232 said PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe is more of a bragging item right now.
I have a WD Black SN850 (7000/5100 so 2 TB version which is slower than 1 TB version) but I really can't feel the difference in loading times between this and my SSD Samsung 860 Evo for games and normal use - maybe when I compile and run a simulation library from work I can feel that the process is faster and the system feel snappier using the same drive for temp files during compile and so on...
The major difference for me is in temperature: WD black 51 degrees vs Samsung 28 degrees (idle)...in full load I've seen 75 degrees on WD...I will buy a custom heatsink since the one from the motherboard (thermal pad included) is not enough to cool this beast.
You don't feel it because games do not really use it, it's possible due to ps5/xbox going over to m.2 we might start to see games use it, it might also help with SAM or pcie addressable bar performance (But that we will have to wait for)
Some games help with loading using the m.2 but it's quite small, like going from 20 seconds to 17, performance increase is there but clearly it's being bottleneck by game engines or something else. You can see the same on the new consoles, if you had say a ps4 pro with an SSD like I did, now playing with the ps5 the loading times on games not made for it is a tiny improvement, but then you get games like Spiderman remastered and you see the 1 second loading screen thats the Whoa factor right there.
As Fox2232 said PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe is more of a bragging item right now.
I have a WD Black SN850 (7000/5100 so 2 TB version which is slower than 1 TB version) but I really can't feel the difference in loading times between this and my SSD Samsung 860 Evo for games and normal use - maybe when I compile and run a simulation library from work I can feel that the process is faster and the system feel snappier using the same drive for temp files during compile and so on...
The major difference for me is in temperature: WD black 51 degrees vs Samsung 28 degrees (idle)...in full load I've seen 75 degrees on WD...I will buy a custom heatsink since the one from the motherboard (thermal pad included) is not enough to cool this beast.
You don't feel it because games do not really use it, it's possible due to ps5/xbox going over to m.2 we might start to see games use it, it might also help with SAM or pcie addressable bar performance (But that we will have to wait for)
Some games help with loading using the m.2 but it's quite small, like going from 20 seconds to 17, performance increase is there but clearly it's being bottleneck by game engines or something else. You can see the same on the new consoles, if you had say a ps4 pro with an SSD like I did, now playing with the ps5 the loading times on games not made for it is a tiny improvement, but then you get games like Spiderman remastered and you see the 1 second loading screen thats the Whoa factor right there.
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#5880807 Posted on: 01/24/2021 10:03 PM
honestly if you need mass fast storage, SSD's are more than enough for the majority of tasks, then have a smaller m.2 for newest of games that may benefit from m.2.
Similar to how it was couple years ago with HDD for mass storage and SSD for modern games/OS
Hope we get more 4+tb sizes this year (that aint qlc)
honestly if you need mass fast storage, SSD's are more than enough for the majority of tasks, then have a smaller m.2 for newest of games that may benefit from m.2.
Similar to how it was couple years ago with HDD for mass storage and SSD for modern games/OS
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Hope we get more 4+tb sizes this year (that aint qlc)