#5812204 Posted on: 07/25/2020 05:07 PM

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LOL a bot hating Sora from Nvidia forums,that name is too funny.Thanks for heads up on the driver update

#5812226 Posted on: 07/25/2020 07:06 PM

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I'm getting kinda tired of nVidia breaking the Forza games over and over and over. Their drivers need a major overhaul and so does their CP. I REALLY hope big Navi is good. I'll sell my 2080ti in a heartbeat... Of course that depends on big navis performance vs the 3080 or 90... Whatever the new "2080ti" is.

#5812268 Posted on: 07/25/2020 10:12 PM

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It seems to me that it would be a freeing experience to have separate drivers for each series of releases. Instead of mush moshing every freaking gpu ever released in to one cover all driver, yes I know they have different "driver numbers" but it is still all a hot mess cover all driver, and just release drivers for say 3000 series only and make it policy from now on. Maybe I am ignorant of the way hardware is utilized, but wouldn't it allow them to expand on their choices of hardware utilization knowing that it could have its own driver set?

#5812331 Posted on: 07/26/2020 03:43 AM

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Theres a thing called a support scope, when you do this it increases exponentially until nothing gets fixed and cards are just left unsupported upon the release of your next one.

Aka, Intel.

#5812349 Posted on: 07/26/2020 08:24 AM

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Both NVIDIA and AMD have dropped a few things like the dedicated 32-bit builds and I assume the older GPU's will eventually be phased out of active support when deemed as needed though NVIDIA having a bigger more well funded team here might be less of a issue than AMD although in turn the GCN architecture has been added to and scaled up and supported though RDNA might make for a cut-off point although nowhere near soon.

AMD also had the idea to just outright end Windows 8 support early although I assume NVIDIA and AMD will both eventually reduce Windows 7 support now that it's EOL but again it's a pretty popular OS still so might not happen anytime soon plus different teams and how the code is based and updated.

Control panel is just a shell isn't it exposing a couple of settings, could look better but it works and it's less messy for NVIDIA than AMD's attempt at all the settings and menus within menus and various more hidden sub-menus.


451.85 here sounds like it takes care of several important outstanding issues and with Ampere finalizing and getting supported focus should shift to fixing remaining reported outstanding bugs as I expect there to be a pretty built up and effective bug tracker for this and what gets priority and has to be dealt with immediately like this thing with hardware accelerated GPU scheduling and a assortment of issues now that it's in the public release driver channel.

Can't really jam in some automatic logging and telemetry stuff so also dependent on users actually filling out bug reports or posting about them where community reps can see and submit discussed issues and after that also the importance of detailed reports and replicating the problem so it can be debugged and resolved which I assume at least gets incredibly complex when it wasn't just the driver.

It was this or that hardware with some maybe not 100% bios adjustments and these third party programs on this OS build but maybe it was tweaked in some ways and then software specific bugs and compatibility issues (Call of Duty 2020 whatever it's named seems to be a big one for these currently.) plus you also get D3D12 and Vulkan now and these are even more hardware sensitive like RAM for example.


Plus support from the developers if the game is still in active support and instead of doing some profile tweaking or weird deeper level driver workaround or outright hack or replacing shaders or whatever goes on in here (Some stuff is just really broken, surprised some titles even start at all once you know just how badly some things can get.) although I suppose Microsoft and their studios can put in the resources and have the knowledge to work with the low-level API's a bit better plus involvement from AMD and NVIDIA.
(Well usually, Halo and it's assortment of games had a lot of problems early on but it's still in active support and they are putting in a lot of work to resolve even some of the less pressing issues which is really good to see instead of just demoting it as DNF or Do Not Fix.)


EDIT: Which I suppose is mostly just a longer way of saying that troubleshooting is really complicated and this driver work is probably one of the most difficult things with how massive and complex the actual driver code base itself must be.

Just the actual game profiles alone and title specific tweaks or changes has to be a huge something of code with old and new fixes and how to best go about updating and supporting this.