#4727187 Posted on: 12/18/2013 06:16 PM

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I'm just waiting for mantle man, and I'm sure that will improve BF4 at least quite substantially, especially in crossfire since it can use each card independently.
But yeah I just switched from NVIDIA and the AMD drivers are worse in literally every single way. Windows feels laggier, games have stuttering problems and Vsync is FUBAR. IDK what to say...
Umm Mantle doesn't allow the utilization of each card independently, where did you read that? You'd still be using Alternate Frame Rendering with Mantle.

You could...erm report the problems to AMD? Or sell your cards?

I knew it, you allway's can count on AMD for these kind of jokes..
Only possible with AMD software...it's unbelievable,.. where these guy's are with their heads, in fact, they aren't gamers for sure...

They break the most elementary things which where solved just past the stoneage...

And with this we have to do it for another month? Well defenetly not...if I see no proper driver before X-mas holyday's, I get rid of this trash (only due that incompetent driverteam)...
I'm sure swearing up and down will make VSync or whatever work again. I'm honestly beginning to think PEBKAC but I'll hold off on that judgment.

#4727192 Posted on: 12/18/2013 06:29 PM

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I'm just waiting for mantle man, and I'm sure that will improve BF4 at least quite substantially, especially in crossfire since it can use each card independently.
But yeah I just switched from NVIDIA and the AMD drivers are worse in literally every single way. Windows feels laggier, games have stuttering problems and Vsync is FUBAR. IDK what to say...

Me too, and they are very value, but I haven't got a chance yet to use them normally without problems. I can understand some games have problems with new hardware, but these wide spread issue's like not properly functioning v-sync after three drivers in a row are beyond any accetable level.

Hopefully some more promising beta's are on the way..

#4727196 Posted on: 12/18/2013 06:39 PM

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I'm honestly beginning to think PEBKAC but I'll hold off on that judgment.

Yeah PEBKAC at "Toronto's headquarters" I think.

This issue is allready (v-sync+crossfire) acknowledged by AMD en several reviewers (hardOCP )btw.

#4727198 Posted on: 12/18/2013 06:41 PM

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Umm Mantle doesn't allow the utilization of each card independently, where did you read that? You'd still be using Alternate Frame Rendering with Mantle.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=N_6CAneoW-0#t=1411

At this time, johan andersson (frostbite developer) says AFR is possible but you can also use a graphics pipeline on each GPU with separate memory

#4727205 Posted on: 12/18/2013 06:49 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=N_6CAneoW-0#t=1411

At this time, johan andersson (frostbite developer) says AFR is possible but you can also use a graphics pipeline on each GPU with separate memory
We're not yet there. non-AFR CrossFire modes have potential issues that would need to be ironed out with or without Mantle. It's mostly a workload distribution + parallelization issue. Both cards might have to render geometry too, or similar.

#4727213 Posted on: 12/18/2013 07:03 PM

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Fixed



Vsync is once again working for me maybe it's a problem with just the R series now, have just tested a few Dx9 games Dmc/Skyrim/Bl2/fonv and had no issues at all with these drivers.

tested on HD 7970 xfire

i have not yet tested Ac4 but from what i understood the broken vsync was exclusive to dx9 & crossfire, however ac4 does not use a triple buffer which causes frames to bounce between 60 and 30 fps. which may be your problem?

#4727215 Posted on: 12/18/2013 07:05 PM

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It's OK for 13.12 WHQL on AMD site : support.amd.com/fr-fr/download/desktop?os=Windows+8+-+64

Release notes : support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalyst13-12WINReleaseNotes.aspx

#4727216 Posted on: 12/18/2013 07:08 PM

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Gonna test these tomorrow with my new card.

#4727220 Posted on: 12/18/2013 07:09 PM

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It's OK for 13.12 WHQL on AMD site : support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Windows+8+-+64

Release notes : support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalyst13-12WINReleaseNotes.aspx

Will try asap..

#4727223 Posted on: 12/18/2013 07:15 PM

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It's OK for 13.12 WHQL on AMD site : support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Windows+8+-+64

Release notes : support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalyst13-12WINReleaseNotes.aspx

They need to update their web then, because when you click through the menus, you end up http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Windows+7+-+64 here.
You actually end up on the beta page.

If you just select Win8/7 latest driver, it takes you to what I linked.

So no, not official just yet.

#4727229 Posted on: 12/18/2013 07:20 PM

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They need to update their web then, because when you click through the menus, you end up http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Windows+7+-+64 here.
You actually end up on the beta page.

If you just select Win8/7 latest driver, it takes you to what I linked.

So no, not official just yet.

Yeah they aren't listed

Well, maybe I just install the releasenotes...

#4727230 Posted on: 12/18/2013 07:21 PM

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Can someone tell me if they fixed r7 260x crash issues on Windows 8.1 x64 ?

#4727234 Posted on: 12/18/2013 07:28 PM

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Changelog :

FEATURE HIGHLIGHTS OF AMD CATALYST™ 13.12

Support for the following new products:
AMD Radeon™ R9 290, 280, and 270 Series
AMD Radeon™ R7 260, 250, and 240 Series
Improved AMD CrossFire™ scaling for the following game titles:
Call of Duty®: Ghosts (multiplayer component)
Splinter Cell Blacklist
Saints Row 4
Metro Last Light
New AMD Enduro™ Technology profiles for the following game titles:
XCOM: Enemy Unknown
Need for Speed Rivals
Total War™ : Rome 2
Battlefield 4
Saints Row 4
Splinter Cell Blacklist
FIFA 14
Support For AMD CrossFire frame pacing
Frame pacing ensures that frames rendered across multiple GPUs in an AMD CrossFire configuration will be displayed at an even and regular pace
Frame pacing is enabled through the AMD Catalyst Control Center, or on a per application basis
Frame pacing is supported on DirectX® 10 and DirectX 11 applications using resolutions up to (and including) 2560x1600 on a single display


RESOLVED ISSUES

May resolve intermittent black screens or display loss observed on some AMD Radeon™ R9 290X and AMD Radeon R9 290 graphics cards
Resolves intermittent crashes seen in legacy DirectX® 9 applications
AMD Radeon™ R9 290 Series - Power Tune update to reduce variance of fan speed / RPM
PCI-E bus speed is no longer set to x1 on the secondary GPU when running in an AMD CrossFire configuration
Resolves incorrect HDMI Audio Driver information being listed in the AMD Catalyst Control Center
Resolves AMD Steady Video option being grayed out in the AMD Catalyst Control Center
Resolves intermittent flickering seen on some AMD Radeon R9 270X graphics cards
Resolves graphics corruption issues found in Starcraft®
Resolves image corruption seen in Autodesk Investor 2014
Resolves flickering water corruption found in World of Warcraft®
Resolves intermittent black screen when resuming from a S3/S4 sleep-state if the display is unplugged during the sleep-state on systems supporting AMD Enduro™ Technology
Resolves intermittent crashes experienced with Battlefield 4 on Windows 8 based systems
Resolves the display turning green when using Windows Media Player to view HD .avi format video in an extended desktop configuration
Resolves Metro applications experiencing frame drops during playback of interlaced video content
Resolves video playback corruption of .wmv format files in Windows Media Player

#4727237 Posted on: 12/18/2013 07:30 PM

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I wonder what does this mean for us:

Windows Driver Model (WDM) drivers are no longer bundled in the AMD Catalyst software suite. The WDM drivers install bundle can be downloaded independently through the AMD website.

#4727238 Posted on: 12/18/2013 07:34 PM

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I already read the changelogs, but it doesnt say much things about the crash issues. The first beta versions from 13.11 was crashing everytime, the beta 5 is good but still crash my games. I was hoping if someone that already installed and tested this driver could tell me if fixed the crash problems.

#4727244 Posted on: 12/18/2013 07:39 PM

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Judging by the changelog 13.12 is WHQL 13.11 beta9.5. I wonder if we are going to get new betas today also?

#4727246 Posted on: 12/18/2013 07:42 PM

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It's OK for 13.12 WHQL on AMD site :
support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Windows+8+-+64

Release notes : support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalyst13-12WINReleaseNotes.aspx

Yep these links work, looks like they've not updated their site properly, thanks

#4727252 Posted on: 12/18/2013 07:55 PM

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Hd7730m?

Hd7730m ?

#4727253 Posted on: 12/18/2013 07:56 PM

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awesome first post

#4727255 Posted on: 12/18/2013 07:58 PM

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No mantle yet!! Oh.......no
It will be three months before AMD releases another driver.
it don't look as if it will be this month as promised. Should have known better. When has AMD ever came thru on a promise..............cant remember when.

#4727256 Posted on: 12/18/2013 07:59 PM

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AMD Catalyst 13.12 WHQL :

- Windows 7 SP1/8/8.1 32 : support.amd.com/fr-fr/download/desktop?os=Windows+8+-+32
- Windows 7 SP1/8/8.1 64 : support.amd.com/fr-fr/download/desktop?os=Windows+8+-+64

AMD Mobility Catalyst 13.12 WHQL :

- Windows 7 SP1/8/8.1 32 : support.amd.com/fr-fr/download/mobile?os=Windows+8+-+32
- Windows 7 SP1/8/8.1 64 : support.amd.com/fr-fr/download/mobile?os=Windows+8+-+64

#4727258 Posted on: 12/18/2013 08:04 PM

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AMD Catalyst :

- Windows 7 SP1/8/8.1 32 : support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Windows+8+-+32]AMD Catalyst 13.12 WHQL
- Windows 7 SP1/8/8.1 64 : support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Windows+8+-+64]AMD Catalyst 13.12 WHQL

AMD Mobility Catalyst :

- Windows 7 SP1/8/8.1 32 : support.amd.com/en-us/download/mobile?os=Windows+8+-+32]AMD Mobility Catalyst 13.12 WHQL
- Windows 7 SP1/8/8.1 64 : support.amd.com/en-us/download/mobile?os=Windows+8+-+64]AMD Mobility Catalyst 13.12 WHQL

Where is only 13.9 and beats for me at 64 link. For 32 bit it's okay though.

#4727267 Posted on: 12/18/2013 08:26 PM

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Over 70 comments so far and no single one asking "wtf is acp application which installs with these drivers?!", guys, what is this application?

Driver works awesome for me for crysis 3, the game works the same good as on 13.11 beta 1 which is awesome because i'm getting fairly high fps.average 35-40 (depending on map) with "just" hd7790.


I see some of you disappointed with no improvements for ac4 black (f)lag... amd can't simply fix **** which ubisoft done, nobody can fix this abomination of programming. AC3 was god damn disaster and ac4 is not much better, if any. Do not expect any driver to fix game which has terrible engine which is anvil engine "next".

#4727273 Posted on: 12/18/2013 08:40 PM

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AMD Catalyst 13.12 WHQL :

- Windows 7 SP1/8/8.1 32 : support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Windows+8+-+32
- Windows 7 SP1/8/8.1 64 : support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Windows+8+-+64

AMD Mobility Catalyst 13.12 WHQL :

- Windows 7 SP1/8/8.1 32 : support.amd.com/en-us/download/mobile?os=Windows+8+-+32
- Windows 7 SP1/8/8.1 64 : support.amd.com/en-us/download/mobile?os=Windows+8+-+64

Mobile Driver is still on 13.9. Couldn't you deliver the direct link to the Mobility 13.12 64 Bit driver?

#4727274 Posted on: 12/18/2013 08:41 PM

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Over 70 comments so far and no single one asking "wtf is acp application which installs with these drivers?!", guys, what is this application?

Driver works awesome for me for crysis 3, the game works the same good as on 13.11 beta 1 which is awesome because i'm getting fairly high fps.average 35-40 (depending on map) with "just" hd7790.


I see some of you disappointed with no improvements for ac4 black (f)lag... amd can't simply fix **** which ubisoft done, nobody can fix this abomination of programming. AC3 was god damn disaster and ac4 is not much better, if any. Do not expect any driver to fix game which has terrible engine which is anvil engine "next".
black flag works ok... vsync should be overridden though.