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Radeon RX 590 (XFX Fatboy) review
Posted by: on: 11/16/2018 03:13 PM [
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We look at the Fatboy from XFX, the Radeon RX 590 is in the house and what will it be? What GPU will sit underneath that hood, Polaris? Of course, it is, but let's talk about that in greater detail in this review.
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warlord
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Posted on: 11/17/2018 09:11 PM
290x is equal or faster than rx 480.
390x is equal or faster than rx 580.
And they released an even more oc'ed polaris based model to beat 390x at almost everything and named it 590 to absolute replace x90 older series?
I believe AMD needs to deliver more performance. 5,5 years to bring some minor performance improvements for everyone, it is not great.
We desperately need a new breakthrough like ryzen cpus. Please AMD, do another miracle.
290x is equal or faster than rx 480.
390x is equal or faster than rx 580.
And they released an even more oc'ed polaris based model to beat 390x at almost everything and named it 590 to absolute replace x90 older series?
I believe AMD needs to deliver more performance. 5,5 years to bring some minor performance improvements for everyone, it is not great.
We desperately need a new breakthrough like ryzen cpus. Please AMD, do another miracle.
Exodite
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Posted on: 11/17/2018 09:17 PM
True, I'm eyeing the £299 V56 myself but even so that's an entirely different price range.
Unfortunately it's been some time since it was possible to upgrade to a new high/midrange card in the $200-$300 class and actually get more for your money.
To me that's the real letdown of the last few years worth of GPU development. Sure, the 1070/1080/1080TI were great cards and you can't argue with the 2000-series performance. Even Vega is finally offering competitive pricing at that end of the spectrum.
But all of these are enthusiast level cards, we're talking single digit percentages of users who can/will spend that much money on a GPU.
What we need is a significant performance bump in the $150 to $300 range, and I hope 7nm can deliver that.
That said Vega 64 is currently on sale on scan for £409, Hard not to recommend that card for that price
True, I'm eyeing the £299 V56 myself but even so that's an entirely different price range.
Unfortunately it's been some time since it was possible to upgrade to a new high/midrange card in the $200-$300 class and actually get more for your money.
To me that's the real letdown of the last few years worth of GPU development. Sure, the 1070/1080/1080TI were great cards and you can't argue with the 2000-series performance. Even Vega is finally offering competitive pricing at that end of the spectrum.
But all of these are enthusiast level cards, we're talking single digit percentages of users who can/will spend that much money on a GPU.
What we need is a significant performance bump in the $150 to $300 range, and I hope 7nm can deliver that.
Ricepudding
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Posted on: 11/17/2018 10:14 PM
True, I'm eyeing the £299 V56 myself but even so that's an entirely different price range.
Unfortunately it's been some time since it was possible to upgrade to a new high/midrange card in the $200-$300 class and actually get more for your money.
To me that's the real letdown of the last few years worth of GPU development. Sure, the 1070/1080/1080TI were great cards and you can't argue with the 2000-series performance. Even Vega is finally offering competitive pricing at that end of the spectrum.
But all of these are enthusiast level cards, we're talking single digit percentages of users who can/will spend that much money on a GPU.
What we need is a significant performance bump in the $150 to $300 range, and I hope 7nm can deliver that.
Right now the mainstream market is pretty tiny, the RX590 is nice but its basically an overclocked 580, and the GTX 2070 is far too expensive right now... Maybe when the GTX 2060 comes out we might have something more on that range, alternatively a RX 680 if anything like that exists or will exist anytime soon. hard to know... i'm glad i got myself a GTX 1080ti when i did, it looks like the card will last a good while longer since the newer Turning cards don't surpass it that much.
True, I'm eyeing the £299 V56 myself but even so that's an entirely different price range.
Unfortunately it's been some time since it was possible to upgrade to a new high/midrange card in the $200-$300 class and actually get more for your money.
To me that's the real letdown of the last few years worth of GPU development. Sure, the 1070/1080/1080TI were great cards and you can't argue with the 2000-series performance. Even Vega is finally offering competitive pricing at that end of the spectrum.
But all of these are enthusiast level cards, we're talking single digit percentages of users who can/will spend that much money on a GPU.
What we need is a significant performance bump in the $150 to $300 range, and I hope 7nm can deliver that.
Right now the mainstream market is pretty tiny, the RX590 is nice but its basically an overclocked 580, and the GTX 2070 is far too expensive right now... Maybe when the GTX 2060 comes out we might have something more on that range, alternatively a RX 680 if anything like that exists or will exist anytime soon. hard to know... i'm glad i got myself a GTX 1080ti when i did, it looks like the card will last a good while longer since the newer Turning cards don't surpass it that much.
warlord
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Posted on: 11/17/2018 10:28 PM
It is my will and wishing list to ask and demand a gpu faster than what I already have by a generous margin under 399$.
At least NVidia still have a card to play called 2060 if it will ever happen. And if it does, it will be equal or faster than 980ti/1070. AMD, gave me one of the same (or shame to be honest). I have any right to bitch about the obvious. This 590, should be between Fury and Vega. Period.
All im saying you should move on...
It is my will and wishing list to ask and demand a gpu faster than what I already have by a generous margin under 399$.
At least NVidia still have a card to play called 2060 if it will ever happen. And if it does, it will be equal or faster than 980ti/1070. AMD, gave me one of the same (or shame to be honest). I have any right to bitch about the obvious. This 590, should be between Fury and Vega. Period.
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No, it's not really an uncommon practice.
The Nvidia G92 comes across as the most egregious offender that I recall offhand, being used in a huge number of products across multiple generations of cards, but the RX 590 really isn't a standout in general. In fact I'd argue that the RX 590 is even a fairly mild offender, as there's actually been some tweaks and a lithography change for the chip in its newest incarnation.
At the end of the day what matters it what we get for our money, and there the RX 590 is delivering sufficiently IMO. It's the most powerful GPU in its price range (Black Friday rebates excluded), has a compelling game bundle and isn't lacking features in a generational context. The only concern, again IMO, would be power usage as there are some midrange systems with cheap/bad and/or low-power PSUs that might have to double check whether or not they can run the card.
Both AMD and Nvidia are guilty of "rebranding" GPUs on multiple occasions, arguably Intel as well if you consider how little has changed architecturally since Sandy Bridge, but the only time it's really a concern is when the rebranded versions aren't supporting the feature sets their new name would imply.
True intel has basically rebranded since sandy XD few tweeks... RX 590 is a lovely card, though i guess people who have the 480/580 and was looking for an upgrade i guess they gotta wait or switch to Nvidia
That said Vega 64 is currently on sale on scan for £409, Hard not to recommend that card for that price