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Tech preview: AMD Ryzen 3000 - 7nm ZEN2
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AMD during its E3 keynote released more details Ryzen 3000. You might have watched the live-stream, well that or you were asleep as that was nighttime in the EU, but in this preview article a deeper overview of what to expect Ryzen 3000 aka Zen2 wise including architecture details.
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anxious_f0x
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Posted on: 06/12/2019 07:19 AM
Exciting times ahead, this is all starting to remind me of the old AMD Athlon 64 vs Intel Pentium 4 battle from the early 2000’s.
That battle spawned some great CPU’s from both camps. AMD eventually lost out once the core2duo’s launched but they really stirred the market up and pushed Intel to improve.
Exciting times ahead, this is all starting to remind me of the old AMD Athlon 64 vs Intel Pentium 4 battle from the early 2000’s.
That battle spawned some great CPU’s from both camps. AMD eventually lost out once the core2duo’s launched but they really stirred the market up and pushed Intel to improve.
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Posted on: 06/12/2019 11:10 AM
Amd are just like the sunshine after the storm. What a company, back from the dead , but no Zombies here
Amd and I go back so far
I had the/their first 1Ghz CPU (AMD Thunderbird)
Was pretty stoked at the time....that was my first and last AMD CPU
Zen2 won't have me change from the current 9900K....should be good for couple years
Amd are just like the sunshine after the storm. What a company, back from the dead , but no Zombies here
Amd and I go back so far
' AMD Athlon 1.4Ghz 'Thunderbird
I had the/their first 1Ghz CPU (AMD Thunderbird)
Was pretty stoked at the time....that was my first and last AMD CPU
Zen2 won't have me change from the current 9900K....should be good for couple years
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Posted on: 06/12/2019 11:23 AM
Exciting times ahead, this is all starting to remind me of the old AMD Athlon 64 vs Intel Pentium 4 battle from the early 2000’s.
That battle spawned some great CPU’s from both camps. AMD eventually lost out once the core2duo’s launched but they really stirred the market up and pushed Intel to improve.
Brings back memories of 3D Mark 2001 SE and the Nvidia Grove demo
Exciting times ahead, this is all starting to remind me of the old AMD Athlon 64 vs Intel Pentium 4 battle from the early 2000’s.
That battle spawned some great CPU’s from both camps. AMD eventually lost out once the core2duo’s launched but they really stirred the market up and pushed Intel to improve.
Brings back memories of 3D Mark 2001 SE and the Nvidia Grove demo
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Posted on: 06/12/2019 01:36 PM
cheapest Prices i heard, are around ?140 - 180? $ (blingBling) for the cheapest X570 mobos...
Not shure where i heared that. If i find out in a few Minutes, ill let you know
Found it, i was reading it here:
TechPowerUP
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Yes those are the bottom of the barrel x570's. The lineup that most of us would target start around $250 in the prime pro. The cheapest ROG STRIX is $300. COmpare that to my ROG STRIX z370-I that I payed $199 for. I'm not saying the new boards aren't nice or warrant a premium over the previous gen but a lot of these boards are 50%+ more. This is ridiculous if true. Couple that with the price premium of the 12 and 16 core parts compared to the 8 core variant. AMD appears to have gone for that profit quick.
I was thinking of swapping my 8700k for a 3900x or 3800x because they just keep finding security flaws in the CPU, but if its gonna cost me $700-800 to replace a CPU and mobo that cost me $550 when I bought it AMD can stick it where the sun don't shine. I'm sick of being Inteled and AMD gets a sniff of the lead and goes off the deep end.
cheapest Prices i heard, are around ?140 - 180? $ (blingBling) for the cheapest X570 mobos...
Not shure where i heared that. If i find out in a few Minutes, ill let you know
Found it, i was reading it here:
TechPowerUP
quote:
Yes those are the bottom of the barrel x570's. The lineup that most of us would target start around $250 in the prime pro. The cheapest ROG STRIX is $300. COmpare that to my ROG STRIX z370-I that I payed $199 for. I'm not saying the new boards aren't nice or warrant a premium over the previous gen but a lot of these boards are 50%+ more. This is ridiculous if true. Couple that with the price premium of the 12 and 16 core parts compared to the 8 core variant. AMD appears to have gone for that profit quick.
I was thinking of swapping my 8700k for a 3900x or 3800x because they just keep finding security flaws in the CPU, but if its gonna cost me $700-800 to replace a CPU and mobo that cost me $550 when I bought it AMD can stick it where the sun don't shine. I'm sick of being Inteled and AMD gets a sniff of the lead and goes off the deep end.
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Posted on: 06/12/2019 02:22 PM
Yes those are the bottom of the barrel x570's. The lineup that most of us would target start around $250 in the prime pro. The cheapest ROG STRIX is $300. COmpare that to my ROG STRIX z370-I that I payed $199 for. I'm not saying the new boards aren't nice or warrant a premium over the previous gen but a lot of these boards are 50%+ more. This is ridiculous if true. Couple that with the price premium of the 12 and 16 core parts compared to the 8 core variant. AMD appears to have gone for that profit quick.
I was thinking of swapping my 8700k for a 3900x or 3800x because they just keep finding security flaws in the CPU, but if its gonna cost me $700-800 to replace a CPU and mobo that cost me $550 when I bought it AMD can stick it where the sun don't shine. I'm sick of being Inteled and AMD gets a sniff of the lead and goes off the deep end.
Dude, these boards support PCIe 4.0. Are you seriously expecting them to cost the same as boards with PCIe 3.0? You also don't need to buy a 12 or 16 core part with them - you can opt for a 8 or 6 core (after all, 8700K is a 6-core part). And if you don't need PCIe 4.0, then you can opt for an existing board - I plan on using my current X470 board with Matisse.
Yes those are the bottom of the barrel x570's. The lineup that most of us would target start around $250 in the prime pro. The cheapest ROG STRIX is $300. COmpare that to my ROG STRIX z370-I that I payed $199 for. I'm not saying the new boards aren't nice or warrant a premium over the previous gen but a lot of these boards are 50%+ more. This is ridiculous if true. Couple that with the price premium of the 12 and 16 core parts compared to the 8 core variant. AMD appears to have gone for that profit quick.
I was thinking of swapping my 8700k for a 3900x or 3800x because they just keep finding security flaws in the CPU, but if its gonna cost me $700-800 to replace a CPU and mobo that cost me $550 when I bought it AMD can stick it where the sun don't shine. I'm sick of being Inteled and AMD gets a sniff of the lead and goes off the deep end.
Dude, these boards support PCIe 4.0. Are you seriously expecting them to cost the same as boards with PCIe 3.0? You also don't need to buy a 12 or 16 core part with them - you can opt for a 8 or 6 core (after all, 8700K is a 6-core part). And if you don't need PCIe 4.0, then you can opt for an existing board - I plan on using my current X470 board with Matisse.
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Posted on: 06/12/2019 02:28 PM
Couple that with the price premium of the 12 and 16 core parts compared to the 8 core variant. AMD appears to have gone for that profit quick.
Ryzen 1800x was released for $500
Now they are releasing a cpu that is double the cores and higher frequency all around. You are getting more then double the performance 2 years later for not double the price. Where exactly is that a price premium?
And again, you don't need an x570 for zen 2, most people would not benefit from it. Using that as a "reason" to say amd is going expensive only sounds like an intel fanboy trying to let the world know that AMD is not "cheap" and they are just like intel, which is entirely untrue. Again, there is no NEED to use the x570 chipset, and we have more cpu with zen 2 for our money then any cpu release before.
Seems to me you would have rathered continue paying $1000 every other year for a new 8-core slightly higher frequency processor from intel and called it good, but hey, when you see actual improvements in CPUs, they are now.....expensive........right....
Couple that with the price premium of the 12 and 16 core parts compared to the 8 core variant. AMD appears to have gone for that profit quick.
Ryzen 1800x was released for $500
Now they are releasing a cpu that is double the cores and higher frequency all around. You are getting more then double the performance 2 years later for not double the price. Where exactly is that a price premium?
And again, you don't need an x570 for zen 2, most people would not benefit from it. Using that as a "reason" to say amd is going expensive only sounds like an intel fanboy trying to let the world know that AMD is not "cheap" and they are just like intel, which is entirely untrue. Again, there is no NEED to use the x570 chipset, and we have more cpu with zen 2 for our money then any cpu release before.
Seems to me you would have rathered continue paying $1000 every other year for a new 8-core slightly higher frequency processor from intel and called it good, but hey, when you see actual improvements in CPUs, they are now.....expensive........right....
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Posted on: 06/12/2019 02:54 PM
Dude, these boards support PCIe 4.0. Are you seriously expecting them to cost the same as boards with PCIe 3.0? You also don't need to buy a 12 or 16 core part with them - you can opt for a 8 or 6 core (after all, 8700K is a 6-core part). And if you don't need PCIe 4.0, then you can opt for an existing board - I plan on using my current X470 board with Matisse.
There was no huge price premium when the switch to PCI 3.0 happened. So sorry not buying that reasoning.
Ryzen 1800x was released for $500
Now they are releasing a cpu that is double the cores and higher frequency all around. You are getting more then double the performance 2 years later for not double the price. Where exactly is that a price premium?
And again, you don't need an x570 for zen 2, most people would not benefit from it. Using that as a "reason" to say amd is going expensive only sounds like an intel fanboy trying to let the world know that AMD is not "cheap" and they are just like intel, which is entirely untrue. Again, there is no NEED to use the x570 chipset, and we have more cpu with zen 2 for our money then any cpu release before.
Seems to me you would have rathered continue paying $1000 every other year for a new 8-core slightly higher frequency processor from intel and called it good, but hey, when you see actual improvements in CPUs, they are now.....expensive........right....
The 1800x didn’t sell. I have a 8700k now I had a 2600k prior. I hardly “upgrade every year for $1000 and call it good”. I wanted to go AMD when Ryzen Cam our bit the gaming performance kept me away. I won’t even look at the 9900k because that CPU is grossly over priced and all the security flaws factor in as well.
I’m no fanboy so you can stop with that projection there. We don’t know for sure how the 3000 Ryzen will do on the x470. The chip design is quite different from zen and zen+ and some performance may be impacted on the older chipset. Until testing is done I will air on the side of caution with that.
AMD boast about yields then price these CPU’s extremely high. I get having a halo product but AMD hasn’t proven themselves the kings yet (I believe they will be top performers BTW) and priced themselves high a bit prematurely in my opinion.
AMD fanboys out there talking smack about Intel pricing and all then AMD does the same thing an y’all defend it.
Be consistent. Stop favoring one greedy company over another because they are your favorite color or whatever.
Dude, these boards support PCIe 4.0. Are you seriously expecting them to cost the same as boards with PCIe 3.0? You also don't need to buy a 12 or 16 core part with them - you can opt for a 8 or 6 core (after all, 8700K is a 6-core part). And if you don't need PCIe 4.0, then you can opt for an existing board - I plan on using my current X470 board with Matisse.
There was no huge price premium when the switch to PCI 3.0 happened. So sorry not buying that reasoning.
Ryzen 1800x was released for $500
Now they are releasing a cpu that is double the cores and higher frequency all around. You are getting more then double the performance 2 years later for not double the price. Where exactly is that a price premium?
And again, you don't need an x570 for zen 2, most people would not benefit from it. Using that as a "reason" to say amd is going expensive only sounds like an intel fanboy trying to let the world know that AMD is not "cheap" and they are just like intel, which is entirely untrue. Again, there is no NEED to use the x570 chipset, and we have more cpu with zen 2 for our money then any cpu release before.
Seems to me you would have rathered continue paying $1000 every other year for a new 8-core slightly higher frequency processor from intel and called it good, but hey, when you see actual improvements in CPUs, they are now.....expensive........right....
The 1800x didn’t sell. I have a 8700k now I had a 2600k prior. I hardly “upgrade every year for $1000 and call it good”. I wanted to go AMD when Ryzen Cam our bit the gaming performance kept me away. I won’t even look at the 9900k because that CPU is grossly over priced and all the security flaws factor in as well.
I’m no fanboy so you can stop with that projection there. We don’t know for sure how the 3000 Ryzen will do on the x470. The chip design is quite different from zen and zen+ and some performance may be impacted on the older chipset. Until testing is done I will air on the side of caution with that.
AMD boast about yields then price these CPU’s extremely high. I get having a halo product but AMD hasn’t proven themselves the kings yet (I believe they will be top performers BTW) and priced themselves high a bit prematurely in my opinion.
AMD fanboys out there talking smack about Intel pricing and all then AMD does the same thing an y’all defend it.
Be consistent. Stop favoring one greedy company over another because they are your favorite color or whatever.
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Posted on: 06/12/2019 03:35 PM
The 1800x didn’t sell.
Lol, that was all the more reading i needed to do into your reply.
So sorry you're so stuck on intel you can't see whats right there in front of you.
The 1800x didn’t sell.
Lol, that was all the more reading i needed to do into your reply.
So sorry you're so stuck on intel you can't see whats right there in front of you.
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Posted on: 06/12/2019 03:39 PM
Lol, that was all the more reading i needed to do into your reply.
So sorry you're so stuck on intel you can't see whats right there in front of you.
1800x did not sell. The 1700x did. No one in their right mind would buy a $500 1800x when the $350 1700x could do the same clocks. That is why we only got a 2700x with zen+. You are the only blind fanboy in this argument.
Lol, that was all the more reading i needed to do into your reply.
So sorry you're so stuck on intel you can't see whats right there in front of you.
1800x did not sell. The 1700x did. No one in their right mind would buy a $500 1800x when the $350 1700x could do the same clocks. That is why we only got a 2700x with zen+. You are the only blind fanboy in this argument.
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Posted on: 06/12/2019 03:41 PM
Ryzen was priced accordingly at launch because it was the only consumer chip that went up to 8 cores, not counting platforms like 2011 that were high end parts, but general consumer parts. Ryzen pushed core count and accelerated what the norm was for a consumer cpu, instead of just relying on 4c/8t as the top end general consumer chip. But notice prices went down quickly as Intel launched their new consumer chips.
Ryzen was priced accordingly at launch because it was the only consumer chip that went up to 8 cores, not counting platforms like 2011 that were high end parts, but general consumer parts. Ryzen pushed core count and accelerated what the norm was for a consumer cpu, instead of just relying on 4c/8t as the top end general consumer chip. But notice prices went down quickly as Intel launched their new consumer chips.
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Posted on: 06/12/2019 03:44 PM
Ryzen had 3 8 core CPU's that ranged from $330 all the way to $500 for the same 8/16 core config. Only difference was frequency. And they basically dropped the 1800x if I remember correctly.
BTW I'm not upset about the CPU prices. The 3950x may be $50 high in my opinion but it's a halo product and the first consumer grade 16core/32thread CPU.
My issue is with the price hike going from X470 the X570 and the only real difference I'm seeing is pci4.0.
Ryzen was priced accordingly at launch because it was the only consumer chip that went up to 8 cores, not counting platforms like 2011 that were high end parts, but general consumer parts. Ryzen pushed core count and accelerated what the norm was for a consumer cpu, instead of just relying on 4c/8t as the top end general consumer chip. But notice prices went down quickly as Intel launched their new consumer chips.
Ryzen had 3 8 core CPU's that ranged from $330 all the way to $500 for the same 8/16 core config. Only difference was frequency. And they basically dropped the 1800x if I remember correctly.
BTW I'm not upset about the CPU prices. The 3950x may be $50 high in my opinion but it's a halo product and the first consumer grade 16core/32thread CPU.
My issue is with the price hike going from X470 the X570 and the only real difference I'm seeing is pci4.0.
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Posted on: 06/12/2019 03:49 PM
But again, these were the only consumer grade 8 core parts. It brought us a higher core count at what could be considered consumer grade pricing. For the same price as an i7 with 4c/8t at the time, you get double the cores and threads. 1700x and 1800x pricing more or less were the 2 you bought if you wanted to rely on XFR or push a higher clock and higher memory clock with better timings.
Ryzen had 3 8 core CPU's that ranged from $330 all the way to $500 for the same 8/16 core config. Only difference was frequency. And they basically dropped the 1800x if I remember correctly.
But again, these were the only consumer grade 8 core parts. It brought us a higher core count at what could be considered consumer grade pricing. For the same price as an i7 with 4c/8t at the time, you get double the cores and threads. 1700x and 1800x pricing more or less were the 2 you bought if you wanted to rely on XFR or push a higher clock and higher memory clock with better timings.
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Posted on: 06/12/2019 03:50 PM
Please read my edit. I got caught up in Aura's strawman.
But again, these were the only consumer grade 8 core parts. It brought us a higher core count at what could be considered consumer grade pricing. For the same price as an i7 with 4c/8t at the time, you get double the cores and threads. 1700x and 1800x pricing more or less were the 2 you bought if you wanted to rely on XFR or push a higher clock and higher memory clock with better timings.
Please read my edit. I got caught up in Aura's strawman.
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Posted on: 06/12/2019 03:52 PM
Gotcha!
I do agree with that, but what it seems like to me is AMD is trying to be a more serious platform now where Ryzen established them, now they can enter the game of being a contender. Which costs R&D, which costs money. The good thing is for the general consumer, X470 and B450 are still supported and being made.
Gotcha!
I do agree with that, but what it seems like to me is AMD is trying to be a more serious platform now where Ryzen established them, now they can enter the game of being a contender. Which costs R&D, which costs money. The good thing is for the general consumer, X470 and B450 are still supported and being made.
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Posted on: 06/12/2019 03:54 PM
1700x was $399, thanks anyways for trying.
And 1800x sold just fine. Yes, 1700x likely sold better, though the only available graphs we have dont really say it did all that much better
https://imagescdn.tweaktown.com/news/6/0/60762_03_intel-core-i7-8700k-smashing-amd-ryzen-sales-big-time.png
By your own definition the 9900k didnt sell well either because something below it, that is cheaper and easier to purchase for the masses, sold better.......news flash, thats how it always works.
But lets look at this mythical price gouging amd is doing.....
2017 - 16 core 3.4ghz base 4.0ghz boost $999 HEDT system requiring expensive motherboard and more expensive ram (if you want quad-channel)
2018 - 16 core 3.5ghz base 4.4ghz boost $899 HEDT system requiring expensive motherboard and more expensive ram (if you want quad-channel)
2019 - 16 core 3.5ghz base 4.7ghz boost $749, can use with cheap lower end chipsets from past 2 years
Oh, yeah yeah yeah no totally i seeeeeee it now....man that price gauging! I hate paying less for more!
1800x did not sell. The 1700x did. No one in their right mind would buy a $500 1800x when the $350 1700x could do the same clocks. That is why we only got a 2700x with zen+. You are the only blind fanboy in this argument.
1700x was $399, thanks anyways for trying.
And 1800x sold just fine. Yes, 1700x likely sold better, though the only available graphs we have dont really say it did all that much better
https://imagescdn.tweaktown.com/news/6/0/60762_03_intel-core-i7-8700k-smashing-amd-ryzen-sales-big-time.png
By your own definition the 9900k didnt sell well either because something below it, that is cheaper and easier to purchase for the masses, sold better.......news flash, thats how it always works.
But lets look at this mythical price gouging amd is doing.....
2017 - 16 core 3.4ghz base 4.0ghz boost $999 HEDT system requiring expensive motherboard and more expensive ram (if you want quad-channel)
2018 - 16 core 3.5ghz base 4.4ghz boost $899 HEDT system requiring expensive motherboard and more expensive ram (if you want quad-channel)
2019 - 16 core 3.5ghz base 4.7ghz boost $749, can use with cheap lower end chipsets from past 2 years
Oh, yeah yeah yeah no totally i seeeeeee it now....man that price gauging! I hate paying less for more!
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Is AMD setting the price on the boards? Isn't that up to the board manufacturers?
My issue is with the price hike going from X470 the X570 and the only real difference I'm seeing is pci4.0.
Is AMD setting the price on the boards? Isn't that up to the board manufacturers?
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That I'm not sure of but I would imagine they have a say in it.
@Aura89 since you continue to ignore the original point I was making and instead flame, troll and post up new strawmen argument because you can't invalidate the original statement you have found your way to my very short ignore list. Hell even Undying isn't on my ignore list.
Is AMD setting the price on the boards? Isn't that up to the board manufacturers?
That I'm not sure of but I would imagine they have a say in it.
@Aura89 since you continue to ignore the original point I was making and instead flame, troll and post up new strawmen argument because you can't invalidate the original statement you have found your way to my very short ignore list. Hell even Undying isn't on my ignore list.
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Posted on: 06/12/2019 04:17 PM
Does anyone know the cache sizes of the 3800X and the 3900X?
Does anyone know the cache sizes of the 3800X and the 3900X?
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Posted on: 06/12/2019 04:19 PM
its in the article.
Does anyone know the cache sizes of the 3800X and the 3900X?
its in the article.
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Ah I missed that one, thanks. Seems it's gonna be the 3900X for me.
its in the article.
Ah I missed that one, thanks. Seems it's gonna be the 3900X for me.
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Posted on: 06/12/2019 04:25 PM
That I'm not sure of but I would imagine they have a say in it.
@Aura89 since you continue to ignore the original point I was making and instead flame, troll and post up new strawmen argument because you can't invalidate the original statement you have found your way to my very short ignore list. Hell even Undying isn't on my ignore list.
Man i hope so, given your trolling posts i'll finally be able to reply to your nonsense and you won't be able to reply back with even more nonsense. Thank god.
That I'm not sure of but I would imagine they have a say in it.
@Aura89 since you continue to ignore the original point I was making and instead flame, troll and post up new strawmen argument because you can't invalidate the original statement you have found your way to my very short ignore list. Hell even Undying isn't on my ignore list.
Man i hope so, given your trolling posts i'll finally be able to reply to your nonsense and you won't be able to reply back with even more nonsense. Thank god.
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Posted on: 06/12/2019 05:04 PM
Yeah guys, we can stop this back and forth now.
Yeah guys, we can stop this back and forth now.
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and instant for malware as well...
not even talking about the fact that when intel was slightly faster no one had problems paying more,
as soon as amd has the better (more secure as well) product, now all of a sudden someone spending
+1000$ for a rig (cpu/mb/ram/case/psu/) gets to choose for price. ok
as others said, they are cheap for a reason...
What malware...getting some kind of malware because you run 9900k for example is next to impossible...let's get that out of way.
I am just saying that in my book knowing what kind of sheep people are, getting 9900k or 2066 socket CPU for dirt cheap will be the best deal for me. All I need is to replace CPU with the one with more cores...pretty cheap upgrade in my book.
@karma777police
and instant for malware as well...
not even talking about the fact that when intel was slightly faster no one had problems paying more,
as soon as amd has the better (more secure as well) product, now all of a sudden someone spending
+1000$ for a rig (cpu/mb/ram/case/psu/) gets to choose for price. ok
as others said, they are cheap for a reason...
What malware...getting some kind of malware because you run 9900k for example is next to impossible...let's get that out of way.
I am just saying that in my book knowing what kind of sheep people are, getting 9900k or 2066 socket CPU for dirt cheap will be the best deal for me. All I need is to replace CPU with the one with more cores...pretty cheap upgrade in my book.
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Posted on: 06/12/2019 06:43 PM
I'm going to be gaining 2 more cores and a silly amount of single and multi threaded performance over my 1600X with a 3700X. That's what I call pretty cheap. Even gonna use my cheap $80 mobo.
I'm going to be gaining 2 more cores and a silly amount of single and multi threaded performance over my 1600X with a 3700X. That's what I call pretty cheap. Even gonna use my cheap $80 mobo.
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I am definitely upgrading my 4770k to a 3700X/3800X. I am probably going the mATX route but I haven't seen any good mATX boards yet.