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Samsung 970 EVO Plus NVMe M.2. (1TB) SSD review
Posted by: on: 01/22/2019 04:00 PM [
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Samsung outs a new TURBO edition of the M.2. EVO drives, AS IF they were not fast enough, they improved writes allowing R/W up to 3500/3300 MB/s thanks to the latest 3bit written NAND and a new Phoenix controller.
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tunejunky
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Posted on: 01/22/2019 04:25 PM
great review. really nice M.2
as much as i love tech, i hate buying something and 3 months later....
lolz
great review. really nice M.2
as much as i love tech, i hate buying something and 3 months later....
lolz
clamatac
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Posted on: 01/22/2019 05:29 PM
thanks for the review
Manufacturers should include a heatsink like the one mentioned in the "New WD Black: SN750 NVMe SSD"
thanks for the review
Manufacturers should include a heatsink like the one mentioned in the "New WD Black: SN750 NVMe SSD"
Incredible Lama
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Posted on: 01/22/2019 05:30 PM
I think you just reviewed my future main drive
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Now I'm just wondering whether I should go with a single 1000GB drive or two seperate 500GB drives (one for OS and programs, and one for games)
I think you just reviewed my future main drive
.Now I'm just wondering whether I should go with a single 1000GB drive or two seperate 500GB drives (one for OS and programs, and one for games)
DeskStar
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Posted on: 01/22/2019 07:34 PM
@Hilbert
Just noticed on page ten of the real world trace testing you mentioned...
"It seems the SSD is a trace test wonder, definitely offering extraordinary performance, look at how these storage units put the traditional HDD to shame"
should it state traditional SSD?
@Hilbert
Just noticed on page ten of the real world trace testing you mentioned...
"It seems the SSD is a trace test wonder, definitely offering extraordinary performance, look at how these storage units put the traditional HDD to shame"
should it state traditional SSD?
nizzen
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Posted on: 01/22/2019 07:58 PM
@Hilbert Hagedoorn
Do you know where samsung z-nand is? It was "press released" 1 year ago!
Samsung SZ985 Z-NAND SSD
https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-electronics-launches-800-gigabyte-z-ssd-for-hpc-systems-and-ai-applications
@Hilbert Hagedoorn
Do you know where samsung z-nand is? It was "press released" 1 year ago!
Samsung SZ985 Z-NAND SSD
https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-electronics-launches-800-gigabyte-z-ssd-for-hpc-systems-and-ai-applications
The Goose
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Posted on: 01/22/2019 08:03 PM
this should of been given the same 1200tb endurance as the 970 pro.
this should of been given the same 1200tb endurance as the 970 pro.
valentyn0
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Posted on: 01/22/2019 09:49 PM
Pro uses MLC not TLC, that's why EVO wont get that much endurance.
this should of been given the same 1200tb endurance as the 970 pro.
Pro uses MLC not TLC, that's why EVO wont get that much endurance.
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Posted on: 01/23/2019 09:34 AM
Good and extensive review!
However, in the page of AS-SSD results, the screenshot is from 970 EVO 500GB drive.
Herbert,if possible, upload the correct from 970 EVO Plus 1TB drive.
Thank you
Good and extensive review!
However, in the page of AS-SSD results, the screenshot is from 970 EVO 500GB drive.
Herbert,if possible, upload the correct from 970 EVO Plus 1TB drive.
Thank you
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 01/23/2019 09:45 AM
Well, that had me confused for a minute. I rechecked and it is the new Plus SSD.
AS SSD is listing the drive as EVO 500GB, it, in fact, is the EVO Plus 1TB as you can see from the 1B2Q device name. I guess Samsung re-used a firmware. You'll notice similar behaviour in the Anvil benchmark.
However, in the page of AS-SSD results, the screenshot is from 970 EVO 500GB drive.
Well, that had me confused for a minute. I rechecked and it is the new Plus SSD.
AS SSD is listing the drive as EVO 500GB, it, in fact, is the EVO Plus 1TB as you can see from the 1B2Q device name. I guess Samsung re-used a firmware. You'll notice similar behaviour in the Anvil benchmark.
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Posted on: 01/23/2019 11:19 AM
The Samsung website mentions ram cache as ddr4 instead of ddr3 as stated in the review
The Samsung website mentions ram cache as ddr4 instead of ddr3 as stated in the review
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Posted on: 01/23/2019 12:52 PM
Thanks, I've been able to confirm that it indeed is LPDDR4. The entry has been updated to reflect that.
The Samsung website mentions ram cache as ddr4 instead of ddr3 as stated in the review
Thanks, I've been able to confirm that it indeed is LPDDR4. The entry has been updated to reflect that.
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Posted on: 01/23/2019 12:53 PM
@Hilbert Hagedoorn
Do you know where samsung z-nand is? It was "press released" 1 year ago!
Samsung SZ985 Z-NAND SSD
https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-electronics-launches-800-gigabyte-z-ssd-for-hpc-systems-and-ai-applications
No, not really, it's enterprise gear though, so if sold that would be in completely different distribution channels.
@Hilbert Hagedoorn
Do you know where samsung z-nand is? It was "press released" 1 year ago!
Samsung SZ985 Z-NAND SSD
https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-electronics-launches-800-gigabyte-z-ssd-for-hpc-systems-and-ai-applications
No, not really, it's enterprise gear though, so if sold that would be in completely different distribution channels.
Clawedge
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Posted on: 01/23/2019 05:49 PM
Still says ddr3 on page one in the table
Thanks, I've been able to confirm that it indeed is LPDDR4. The entry has been updated to reflect that.
Still says ddr3 on page one in the table
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Posted on: 01/23/2019 07:48 PM
Yep, although I wanted to see some competition out of the traditional HDD makers, doesn't look as if that's going to happen. Currently, the HDD is still king for raw capacity and price per GB, but HDDs are sort of sitting at the bottom of their pricing ramp while the price of NVMe continues on a sharp downward slope even as capacities and performance and longevity continue to rise! I saw an ad the other day for a 500GB 970 EVO NVMe for ~$120--'bout what I paid for me 250GB 960 EVO NVMe boot drive. (Drat, lost the link as I was hunting for something else when I saw it! Hope I wasn't "seeing things"...
)
Well-done, informative review, HH--as usual! 14 comment(s)
Yep, although I wanted to see some competition out of the traditional HDD makers, doesn't look as if that's going to happen. Currently, the HDD is still king for raw capacity and price per GB, but HDDs are sort of sitting at the bottom of their pricing ramp while the price of NVMe continues on a sharp downward slope even as capacities and performance and longevity continue to rise! I saw an ad the other day for a 500GB 970 EVO NVMe for ~$120--'bout what I paid for me 250GB 960 EVO NVMe boot drive. (Drat, lost the link as I was hunting for something else when I saw it! Hope I wasn't "seeing things"...
)Well-done, informative review, HH--as usual! 14 comment(s)
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Posted on: 01/24/2019 01:04 AM
Sata4 gets brought up a couple times here. So is sata dead? Sata-express has been around for a good while now, and has almost no adoption. Is sata 4 in the works? 3.3 is the newest sata revision i was aware of, but have not looked in quite some time.
Sata4 gets brought up a couple times here. So is sata dead? Sata-express has been around for a good while now, and has almost no adoption. Is sata 4 in the works? 3.3 is the newest sata revision i was aware of, but have not looked in quite some time.
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Posted on: 01/24/2019 05:17 PM
To be honest. I have seen sata3 drives corrupted because high quality data cable went too close to power delivery cable. I can't imagine how badly will sata4 work if it has to deliver competitive speeds. For me, it would have to move from theoretical 600MB/s to 2400MB/s to be somehow competitive. And doing that on just 2 data channels (4 data wires) seems rather difficult.
Sata4 gets brought up a couple times here. So is sata dead? Sata-express has been around for a good while now, and has almost no adoption. Is sata 4 in the works? 3.3 is the newest sata revision i was aware of, but have not looked in quite some time.
To be honest. I have seen sata3 drives corrupted because high quality data cable went too close to power delivery cable. I can't imagine how badly will sata4 work if it has to deliver competitive speeds. For me, it would have to move from theoretical 600MB/s to 2400MB/s to be somehow competitive. And doing that on just 2 data channels (4 data wires) seems rather difficult.
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Posted on: 01/25/2019 06:40 PM
SAS is doing the trick
SAS is doing the trick
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Posted on: 01/26/2019 03:44 PM
Please elaborate on number of data pins required to achieve such bandwidth with SAS. Please add number of joined cables and images of solutions.
Calculate bandwidth per data pin and compare to SATA.
SAS is doing the trick
Please elaborate on number of data pins required to achieve such bandwidth with SAS. Please add number of joined cables and images of solutions.
Calculate bandwidth per data pin and compare to SATA.
Maye88
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Posted on: 02/03/2019 06:39 PM
THANK YOU!
For being the the only website I found which compared the 960 pro & evo and 970pro and evo to this drive. Every other major tech website neglected to include the pro versions!
Not only that but thank you for doing such in depth benchmarks.
THANK YOU!
For being the the only website I found which compared the 960 pro & evo and 970pro and evo to this drive. Every other major tech website neglected to include the pro versions!
Not only that but thank you for doing such in depth benchmarks.
clamatac
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Posted on: 04/20/2019 12:15 PM
thanks for the review
I am buying one next week
thanks for the review
I am buying one next week
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Posted on: 04/20/2019 02:30 PM
Its a real shame Intel are dicks about adding VROC RAID 0 support other brands of M.2 drives. I wanted to pair up two Samsung 970 EVO 2TB M.2's on my EVGA Dark mobo but Intel just gave vague excuses and were actively blocking that function. The same M.2 drives paired up easily via CPU RAID 0 on my other Threadripper build. But for my EVGA Dark i had to buy Intel 760p 2TB M.2's to get VROC RAID 0 working on the X299 platform.
Its a real shame Intel are dicks about adding VROC RAID 0 support other brands of M.2 drives. I wanted to pair up two Samsung 970 EVO 2TB M.2's on my EVGA Dark mobo but Intel just gave vague excuses and were actively blocking that function. The same M.2 drives paired up easily via CPU RAID 0 on my other Threadripper build. But for my EVGA Dark i had to buy Intel 760p 2TB M.2's to get VROC RAID 0 working on the X299 platform.
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Would be nice to review also Adata XPG SX8200 Pro.