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Radeon Software Crimson Driver (15.11) WHQL Driver Performance Analysis
Posted by: on: 11/25/2015 11:05 AM [
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AMD released their new AMD Radeon Software Crimson Edition and as such we'll have a quick peek at driver performance compared to the recently released AMD Catalyst 15.11.1 Beta Driver. In this article we'll fire off the entire Guru3D benchmark suite at both drivers with the new Radeon R9 380X to see how much performance you will really gain (or not).
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pbvider
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 11:23 AM
Better than nothing.
Better than nothing.
Ven0m
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 11:28 AM
Thanks for the review, Hilbert!
They claimed better frame pacing. Is there any difference in animation smoothness? Will you add FCAT benchmarks?
Thanks for the review, Hilbert!
They claimed better frame pacing. Is there any difference in animation smoothness? Will you add FCAT benchmarks?
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 11:42 AM
Very average results. Great review though
Very average results. Great review though
Turanis
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 11:48 AM
This driver is almost the same as 15.11.1.
But this driver is more about stability in some Gw games,e.g The Witcher 3.
This driver is almost the same as 15.11.1.
But this driver is more about stability in some Gw games,e.g The Witcher 3.
NAZ2222
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 12:10 PM
Why do you call this driver Beta 7? Did you not use the WQL version from the AMD site?
Why do you call this driver Beta 7? Did you not use the WQL version from the AMD site?
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pokyeah88
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 12:25 PM
somehow borderlands 2 and presequel felt smoother, but didnt know it's because of the placebo effect or not, but i love the new ui.
somehow borderlands 2 and presequel felt smoother, but didnt know it's because of the placebo effect or not, but i love the new ui.
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 01:00 PM
This driver is almost the same as 15.11.1.
But this driver is more about stability in some Gw games,e.g The Witcher 3.
Yeah it's unbelievable how much of a performance difference it makes for the Witcher 3. For me, all micro-stuttering is finally gone. Especially in cities and large towns walking/running around among large crowds was frustrating at times; and it really put you off the game. This no longer is the case.
I noticed performance increases in GTA 5 (ever so slightly as reported by Guru3D).
Running multiple benchmarks I noticed a small percentage of improvement in all of them (I ran 2-3 hours of benchmarking before updating from 15.11.1 to Crimson), but the most impressive thing is that wherever micro-stuttering seemed to exist, it has now either decreased significantly or vanished completely.
This driver is almost the same as 15.11.1.
But this driver is more about stability in some Gw games,e.g The Witcher 3.
Yeah it's unbelievable how much of a performance difference it makes for the Witcher 3. For me, all micro-stuttering is finally gone. Especially in cities and large towns walking/running around among large crowds was frustrating at times; and it really put you off the game. This no longer is the case.
I noticed performance increases in GTA 5 (ever so slightly as reported by Guru3D).
Running multiple benchmarks I noticed a small percentage of improvement in all of them (I ran 2-3 hours of benchmarking before updating from 15.11.1 to Crimson), but the most impressive thing is that wherever micro-stuttering seemed to exist, it has now either decreased significantly or vanished completely.
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 01:03 PM
It is a pity that CPU Overdrive is missing. In my opinion it was a nice tool (included in CCC) for those having AMD CPUs.
I tested the beta version of CRIMSON for my legacy HD5870 and it was very nice.
But I reverted back to CCC because I did not want to go to BIOS and overclock my CPU from there (I do not remember how to overclock my CPU using BIOS in that old mobo anyway, in CCC it is much simpler).
It is a pity that CPU Overdrive is missing. In my opinion it was a nice tool (included in CCC) for those having AMD CPUs.
I tested the beta version of CRIMSON for my legacy HD5870 and it was very nice.
But I reverted back to CCC because I did not want to go to BIOS and overclock my CPU from there (I do not remember how to overclock my CPU using BIOS in that old mobo anyway, in CCC it is much simpler).
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 01:28 PM
Thanks for the info!
On the smoothness front, maybe also showing minimum frame rate would be helpful.
Thanks for the info!
On the smoothness front, maybe also showing minimum frame rate would be helpful.
zer0_c0ol
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 01:33 PM
HH
fury x review with crimson ?
HH
fury x review with crimson ?
vbetts
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 01:59 PM
Horray! 2 more fps!
Horray! 2 more fps!
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 02:00 PM
HH
fury x review with crimson ?
You can do it by yourself.You have nothing to lose.
HH
fury x review with crimson ?
You can do it by yourself.You have nothing to lose.
vbetts
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 02:11 PM
Wow man, that was unnecessary. :X
You can do it by yourself.You have nothing to lose.
Wow man, that was unnecessary. :X
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 02:14 PM
Sarcasm aside, small gains like that over several driver releases can add up. I am happy AMD is putting in the effort to make some performance improvements.
Horray! 2 more fps!
Sarcasm aside, small gains like that over several driver releases can add up. I am happy AMD is putting in the effort to make some performance improvements.
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 02:18 PM
True, 2fps with every driver adds up indeed. What nvidia have done lately besides those many TDR crashes?
Sarcasm aside, small gains like that over several driver releases can add up. I am happy AMD is putting in the effort to make some performance improvements.
True, 2fps with every driver adds up indeed. What nvidia have done lately besides those many TDR crashes?
vbetts
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 02:34 PM
This is true. This is just the beginning of the improvements for the new driver structure.
AMD is really making me happy lately. Gotta flash the Sapphire bios on my Fury X still so I can get some overclocking in!
Sarcasm aside, small gains like that over several driver releases can add up. I am happy AMD is putting in the effort to make some performance improvements.
This is true. This is just the beginning of the improvements for the new driver structure.
AMD is really making me happy lately. Gotta flash the Sapphire bios on my Fury X still so I can get some overclocking in!
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 02:51 PM
Why isn't Fiji on the benchmarks?
Not that I'm expecting a significant difference, but it makes absolutely no sense to exclude Fiji from this analysis...
Pretty much this. The only thing I got from the last Nvidia release were more TDR crashes.
Why isn't Fiji on the benchmarks?
Not that I'm expecting a significant difference, but it makes absolutely no sense to exclude Fiji from this analysis...
True, 2fps with every driver adds up indeed. What nvidia have done lately besides those many TDR crashes?
Pretty much this. The only thing I got from the last Nvidia release were more TDR crashes.
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 02:59 PM
Why isn't Fiji on the benchmarks?
Not that I'm expecting a significant difference, but it makes absolutely no sense to exclude Fiji from this analysis...
Maybe because he's doing a review of the 380x and that happened to be the card in his test system, so he just ran with it?
Your use of the word exclude followed by a ... makes it sound like he intentionally left it out. Which is obviously not the case.
Why isn't Fiji on the benchmarks?
Not that I'm expecting a significant difference, but it makes absolutely no sense to exclude Fiji from this analysis...
Maybe because he's doing a review of the 380x and that happened to be the card in his test system, so he just ran with it?
Your use of the word exclude followed by a ... makes it sound like he intentionally left it out. Which is obviously not the case.
zer0_c0ol
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 04:09 PM
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/amd_radeon_software_crimson_-_overview_and_testing/2
here is the fury x with crimson
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/amd_radeon_software_crimson_-_overview_and_testing/2
here is the fury x with crimson
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 04:11 PM
Yeah it's unbelievable how much of a performance difference it makes for the Witcher 3. For me, all micro-stuttering is finally gone. Especially in cities and large towns walking/running around among large crowds was frustrating at times; and it really put you off the game. This no longer is the case.
I noticed performance increases in GTA 5 (ever so slightly as reported by Guru3D).
Running multiple benchmarks I noticed a small percentage of improvement in all of them (I ran 2-3 hours of benchmarking before updating from 15.11.1 to Crimson), but the most impressive thing is that wherever micro-stuttering seemed to exist, it has now either decreased significantly or vanished completely.
Yeah stuttering has definitively been reduced, framerate in Fallout 4, AC: Syndicate and Batman: Arkham Knight are about the same but they feel smoother with less hitching or how it's called, "juddering" comes up as a term every now and again which I at first thought was a typo of "stuttering" but apparently it's an actual term for something.
(AC: Syndicate did unfortunately black screen crash when I tried to downsample it so for now it's stock 1920x1200 but eh aliasing isn't too big a deal for me when playing the game though it can be annoying if you try to take some screenshots of it.)
Yeah it's unbelievable how much of a performance difference it makes for the Witcher 3. For me, all micro-stuttering is finally gone. Especially in cities and large towns walking/running around among large crowds was frustrating at times; and it really put you off the game. This no longer is the case.
I noticed performance increases in GTA 5 (ever so slightly as reported by Guru3D).
Running multiple benchmarks I noticed a small percentage of improvement in all of them (I ran 2-3 hours of benchmarking before updating from 15.11.1 to Crimson), but the most impressive thing is that wherever micro-stuttering seemed to exist, it has now either decreased significantly or vanished completely.
Yeah stuttering has definitively been reduced, framerate in Fallout 4, AC: Syndicate and Batman: Arkham Knight are about the same but they feel smoother with less hitching or how it's called, "juddering" comes up as a term every now and again which I at first thought was a typo of "stuttering" but apparently it's an actual term for something.
(AC: Syndicate did unfortunately black screen crash when I tried to downsample it so for now it's stock 1920x1200 but eh aliasing isn't too big a deal for me when playing the game though it can be annoying if you try to take some screenshots of it.)
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 04:39 PM
This review feels kind of incomplete and rather strange not having the fury X...
This review feels kind of incomplete and rather strange not having the fury X...
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 05:06 PM
TDR is a classic for the nvidia drivers.
Hence the reason for me to never buy any graphics card that company.
In the era of fermi I felt the constant Tdrs BSODs twice.
I had to sell my graphics card and never had a problem, since I amd, incidentally always had cards from ATI/AMD.
For me the drivers AMD are by far much better and more stable.
I think a grace people who continue to say that the nvidia drivers are better.
This is just my opinion..
TDR is a classic for the nvidia drivers.
Hence the reason for me to never buy any graphics card that company.
In the era of fermi I felt the constant Tdrs BSODs twice.
I had to sell my graphics card and never had a problem, since I amd, incidentally always had cards from ATI/AMD.
For me the drivers AMD are by far much better and more stable.
I think a grace people who continue to say that the nvidia drivers are better.
This is just my opinion..
Turanis
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Posted on: 11/25/2015 05:06 PM
I know they are still broken.
Wow man, that was unnecessary. :X
I know they are still broken.
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Good stuff. I checked some other benchies too it seems all around perf increases. Of course it seems experience varies. DX9 got improved frame pacing. And FLC seems to be good when fps drops under freesync limit with or w/o v-sync smoother then before.
Great review as always.