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Radeon RX 590 (PowerColor Red Devil) review
Posted by: on: 11/15/2018 03:00 PM [
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It is time to tackle that new graphics card that AMD is releasing, the Radeon RX 590 is here and we'll be reviewing the Power Color Red Devil edition. What demonic GPU will sit underneath that hood, Polaris? Of course, it is, but let's talk about that more in detail in this review.
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Robbo9999
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Posted on: 11/16/2018 08:21 PM
Wow, this is one noisy card, must sound like a vacuum cleaner! I'm not so sure that it's a BIOS issue, I think it's a cooling issue. The card was only at about 60% fan speed yet sounded really loud and temperatures were good, so it's not like it was at 100% fan speed or anything - so I think it's by design and related to the cards need for cooling, it was consuming a pretty high 219W in the testing. They need the aggressive cooling to maintain the boost clocks and the increased performance, they're pushing the limit of what the card can do, is the way I see it, not a BIOS bug/issue.
Wow, this is one noisy card, must sound like a vacuum cleaner! I'm not so sure that it's a BIOS issue, I think it's a cooling issue. The card was only at about 60% fan speed yet sounded really loud and temperatures were good, so it's not like it was at 100% fan speed or anything - so I think it's by design and related to the cards need for cooling, it was consuming a pretty high 219W in the testing. They need the aggressive cooling to maintain the boost clocks and the increased performance, they're pushing the limit of what the card can do, is the way I see it, not a BIOS bug/issue.
fry178
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Posted on: 11/16/2018 10:15 PM
@BReal85
not relevant as other options can be had cheaper or more powerful, while using less power producing less heat and most of the time also less noisy.
especially when not everyone is playing those games, and ppl looking at prices might not have the additional money to get a 590, just because it has games coming with it.
@BReal85
not relevant as other options can be had cheaper or more powerful, while using less power producing less heat and most of the time also less noisy.
especially when not everyone is playing those games, and ppl looking at prices might not have the additional money to get a 590, just because it has games coming with it.
OnnA
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Posted on: 11/17/2018 12:49 AM
Like i said, We need Price cut to max 249€ -> Then it will be a steal
...and FreeSync which comes Free.
The problem is companies have done gaming bundles at their slotted MSRP with and without a gaming bundle. The 590 itself is not a terrible card, it's just not priced the best.
Like i said, We need Price cut to max 249€ -> Then it will be a steal
...and FreeSync which comes Free.
BReal85
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Posted on: 11/19/2018 01:08 AM
@BReal85
not relevant as other options can be had cheaper or more powerful, while using less power producing less heat and most of the time also less noisy.
especially when not everyone is playing those games, and ppl looking at prices might not have the additional money to get a 590, just because it has games coming with it.
There are always cheaper cards than a given card, except for the cheapest one.
There are always more powerful cards than a given card, except for the most powerful one.
So sorry, I don't really get to your point.
Of course, getting an RX580 with a choice of 2 of the same 3 games given to the RX590 or Vega is a better price/performance option, but the RX590 is hands down a much better choice than a GTX 1060 given the much more better bundle (Division 2, RE2 and DMC5 vs. MH: World) and the better performance.
@BReal85
not relevant as other options can be had cheaper or more powerful, while using less power producing less heat and most of the time also less noisy.
especially when not everyone is playing those games, and ppl looking at prices might not have the additional money to get a 590, just because it has games coming with it.
There are always cheaper cards than a given card, except for the cheapest one.
There are always more powerful cards than a given card, except for the most powerful one.
So sorry, I don't really get to your point.
Of course, getting an RX580 with a choice of 2 of the same 3 games given to the RX590 or Vega is a better price/performance option, but the RX590 is hands down a much better choice than a GTX 1060 given the much more better bundle (Division 2, RE2 and DMC5 vs. MH: World) and the better performance.
alanm
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Posted on: 11/19/2018 10:00 AM
In stark contrast to the XFX RX590. Not sure why anyone would go for this over the XFX, especially if you dont care about the games in the bundle.
Wow, this is one noisy card, must sound like a vacuum cleaner! I'm not so sure that it's a BIOS issue, I think it's a cooling issue. The card was only at about 60% fan speed yet sounded really loud and temperatures were good, so it's not like it was at 100% fan speed or anything - so I think it's by design and related to the cards need for cooling, it was consuming a pretty high 219W in the testing. They need the aggressive cooling to maintain the boost clocks and the increased performance, they're pushing the limit of what the card can do, is the way I see it, not a BIOS bug/issue.
In stark contrast to the XFX RX590. Not sure why anyone would go for this over the XFX, especially if you dont care about the games in the bundle.
fry178
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Posted on: 11/21/2018 05:01 PM
@BReal85
i can have something cheaper at same perf, can have much faster card for less than 50$ more.
so i dont see this card making much sense for ppl that dont have money, or the ones that can spend a little more.
and since not everyone plays those games, i dont count them in for value, the same way that one shop might have a 1070/ti with a MIR,
would you still go with the (game) bundle if you dont play those? nope...
no games and another 100-150$ off.
@BReal85
i can have something cheaper at same perf, can have much faster card for less than 50$ more.
so i dont see this card making much sense for ppl that dont have money, or the ones that can spend a little more.
and since not everyone plays those games, i dont count them in for value, the same way that one shop might have a 1070/ti with a MIR,
would you still go with the (game) bundle if you dont play those? nope...
no games and another 100-150$ off.
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Heh... My RX-480 8GB is hands-down the best GPU I have ever owned--and probably the cheapest, too. Guess you haven't looked at how much better the 590 is than a 1050/60 from nVidia, eh? For the same money, and the 590 includes 8GB of ram and X-Fire capability, too. Don't know where you get your "memory bandwidth starved" idea...it doesn't make much sense, really, as I'm sure if the GPU was starved for bandwidth to a material degree that AMD would have slapped some on, no doubt. I should think that would make this product a no-brainer over the 1050/60, easily. RX-590 easily beats this:
https://www.amazon.com/PNY-GeForce-Overclocked-Graphics-VCGGTX10606XGPB-OC2/dp/B0792SPV7Q/ref=sr-1-8?ie=UTF8&qid=1542389224&sr=8-8&keywords=gtx+1060
But, it isn't much of a departure from the 580, I'll agree, which wasn't much a departure from the 480--which I think I'll hang onto for awhile. With the 480 @1.305GHz, , believe it or not, I can game @ 38040x2160--albeit the frame rate is *slow*--but the play is still smooth. Main thing to me is there is no stuttering--and, I'm just not going to spend > $300 for a GPU from here on out. Nada. I refuse...! Those days are gone...
Bear in mind that I really don't do mulitplayer--I'm a single-player guy, completely. And I don't really care for first-person shooters, although I have a few installed...!
If GPUs performance does not scale in linear fashion with clock, then it is memory bandwidth or timing limited for given task.
Simple example is compute. Card is at whatever locked GPU clock. Reducing memory clock does not reduce performance at all in certain clock range. Then you hit that point where GPU does not get required data in time anymore => memory bandwidth or latency limited.