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AMD Radeon R9-290 review
Posted by: on: 11/07/2013 03:28 PM [
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We review the AMD Radeon R9-290. We'll benchmark these cards with FCAT Frametimes, Ultra High Definition and of course we'll check out game performance with the latest games next to power consumption and heat levels as well. This is one review you don't want to miss! The new second to best flagship product has been long awaited and anticipated. The Radeon R9-290 will compete with Nvidia's GeForce GTX 780. The card as such is a beast. As such this in-depth review will cover the Volcanic Islands GPU architecture, Hawaii for the 290 series.
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DeOdVue
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 06:28 PM
You know that you can used a cheap ass NV card as a second card for PhysX, Right?
I used my old 8800GTS, got another 8600GT for spare. Wanted one?
lol it's £50 more, big freaking uber PhysX deal.
You know that you can used a cheap ass NV card as a second card for PhysX, Right?
I used my old 8800GTS, got another 8600GT for spare. Wanted one?
Loophole35
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 06:31 PM
Especially if you live in a cold climate you don't have to heat one room at least. Like with the 290X will wait to see custome cards with coolers to make my judgement. Currently Nvidia has the better game bundle IMO. But if the drop the 780 price again sign me up.
yes 100 frickin € cheaper, is a steal.
Especially if you live in a cold climate you don't have to heat one room at least. Like with the 290X will wait to see custome cards with coolers to make my judgement. Currently Nvidia has the better game bundle IMO. But if the drop the 780 price again sign me up.
SLI-756
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 06:45 PM
im a 660ti minimum for PhysX kinda guy myself.
You know that you can used a cheap ass NV card as a second card for PhysX, Right? I used my old 8800GTS, got another 8600GT for spare. Wanted one?
I used my old 8800GTS, got another 8600GT for spare. Wanted one?im a 660ti minimum for PhysX kinda guy myself.
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 06:47 PM
^
450GTS or 560GTX or 640GT 384core/650GTX is enough, more can have negative side effects.
http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=1768879
Loophole35
Well I would never buy a stock gpu, Im just saying in general its very cheap for what it offers and one can always buy a custom cooler for 40-50€ and still be cheaper then stock 780GTX.
Imo bring on custom gpus, once those hit market it will get very interesting.
^
450GTS or 560GTX or 640GT 384core/650GTX is enough, more can have negative side effects.
http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=1768879
Loophole35
Well I would never buy a stock gpu, Im just saying in general its very cheap for what it offers and one can always buy a custom cooler for 40-50€ and still be cheaper then stock 780GTX.
Imo bring on custom gpus, once those hit market it will get very interesting.
eclap
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 06:52 PM
really? show me a 780 for £369
lol it's £50 more, big freaking uber PhysX deal.
really? show me a 780 for £369
omnimodis78
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 06:54 PM
You know, the very first thing I remembered after reading AMD's "it's meant to run 5 degrees Celsius away from boiling point" was this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QkyfGJgcwQ#t=61
Oh I love the irony which only time can produce...
Nice cards though. Basically AMD is now up to par with what NVIDIA has been offering for nearly 6 months. Admittedly AMD definitely demolishes NVIDIA at the price point.
I still don't trust the whole "the card is fine running at 95C."
You know, the very first thing I remembered after reading AMD's "it's meant to run 5 degrees Celsius away from boiling point" was this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QkyfGJgcwQ#t=61
Oh I love the irony which only time can produce...
Nice cards though. Basically AMD is now up to par with what NVIDIA has been offering for nearly 6 months. Admittedly AMD definitely demolishes NVIDIA at the price point.
SLI-756
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 06:57 PM
I thought I seen one for £370 the other day but I guess I was confusing that with the titan I seen for 770.
anyways here's one for £360
http://www.ilgs.net/zotac-geforce-gtx-780-97956.html?gclid=CIq15Z-PzroCFZCWtAodOl4ASA
really? show me a 780 for £369
I thought I seen one for £370 the other day but I guess I was confusing that with the titan I seen for 770.
anyways here's one for £360
http://www.ilgs.net/zotac-geforce-gtx-780-97956.html?gclid=CIq15Z-PzroCFZCWtAodOl4ASA
Redemption80
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 06:59 PM
Jeez, as expected all the Fermi jokes are being recycled.
Nvidia doesn't have to do any aggressive pricing because AMD are either stupid or up to something dodgy.
The fact the 290x is still more expensive than the GTX780 makes the 290x look like a rip off, while at the same time letting Nvidia keep the same prices.
A 290x price drop would of course sort that, but what sort of business strategy is it to force a price drop on your own brand new products??
Jeez, as expected all the Fermi jokes are being recycled.
Nvidia doesn't have to do any aggressive pricing because AMD are either stupid or up to something dodgy.
The fact the 290x is still more expensive than the GTX780 makes the 290x look like a rip off, while at the same time letting Nvidia keep the same prices.
A 290x price drop would of course sort that, but what sort of business strategy is it to force a price drop on your own brand new products??
SLI-756
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 07:01 PM
the only issue I have is that folks are unable to praise amd without poo pooing NVidia in same breath, aren't you guys sick of amd vs NVidia? I know I am.
the only issue I have is that folks are unable to praise amd without poo pooing NVidia in same breath, aren't you guys sick of amd vs NVidia? I know I am.
eclap
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 07:02 PM
I thought I seen one for £370 the other day but I guess I was confusing that with the titan I seen for 770.
anyways here's one for £360
http://www.ilgs.net/zotac-geforce-gtx-780-97956.html?gclid=CIq15Z-PzroCFZCWtAodOl4ASA
not bad, now try from a reputable store, not some rip off merchants.
I thought I seen one for £370 the other day but I guess I was confusing that with the titan I seen for 770.
anyways here's one for £360
http://www.ilgs.net/zotac-geforce-gtx-780-97956.html?gclid=CIq15Z-PzroCFZCWtAodOl4ASA
not bad, now try from a reputable store, not some rip off merchants.
eclap
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 07:02 PM
you're the one bragging about physx in every amd thread.
the only issue I have is that folks are unable to praise amd without poo pooing NVidia in same breath, aren't you guys sick of amd vs NVidia? I know I am.
you're the one bragging about physx in every amd thread.
SLI-756
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 07:03 PM
I couldn't care less aBOUT YOUR AMD GPUS, I ONLY JOIN CONVERSATION WHEN nVIDIA GET CRAPPED ON FOR NO REASON.
SO YEAH GTX 780 RIP OFF THEN YEAH?
WHATEVER.
QUIT YOUR BS, NOT MY FAULT BF4 IS PANTS/
not bad, now try from a reputable store, not some rip off merchants.
I couldn't care less aBOUT YOUR AMD GPUS, I ONLY JOIN CONVERSATION WHEN nVIDIA GET CRAPPED ON FOR NO REASON.
SO YEAH GTX 780 RIP OFF THEN YEAH?
WHATEVER.
you're the one bragging about physx in every amd thread.
QUIT YOUR BS, NOT MY FAULT BF4 IS PANTS/
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 07:07 PM
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SLI-756
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my thoughts exactly, I don't even wanna be here, but some folks ...
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my thoughts exactly, I don't even wanna be here, but some folks ...
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 07:12 PM
Well, obviously 290 is going to cost less. It has much crappier cooler to cut costs. Originally it wasn't aimed to run at those speeds.
@SLI-756
Maybe you should have just let the physx part out of it and just say game bundle instead. PhysX is sore subject for many and considering the heated talks in other threads regarding it... I hope that what you said doesn't mean the other thing that it might mean though.
Well, obviously 290 is going to cost less. It has much crappier cooler to cut costs. Originally it wasn't aimed to run at those speeds.
@SLI-756
Maybe you should have just let the physx part out of it and just say game bundle instead. PhysX is sore subject for many and considering the heated talks in other threads regarding it... I hope that what you said doesn't mean the other thing that it might mean though.
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 07:12 PM
Dafuk am I reading here??
Dafuk am I reading here??
SLI-756
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 07:14 PM
Well, obviously 290 is going to cost less. It has much crappier cooler to cut costs. Originally it wasn't aimed to run at those speeds.
@SLI-756
Maybe you should have just let the physx part out of it and just say game bundle instead...
when discussing amd /NVidia for me PhysX is the only thing that really sets them apart, so if one amd card scores equal to NVidia there's always that PhysX to take into consideration.
just my thoughts.
Dafuk am I reading here??
amd vs NVidia what else?
Well, obviously 290 is going to cost less. It has much crappier cooler to cut costs. Originally it wasn't aimed to run at those speeds.
@SLI-756
Maybe you should have just let the physx part out of it and just say game bundle instead...
when discussing amd /NVidia for me PhysX is the only thing that really sets them apart, so if one amd card scores equal to NVidia there's always that PhysX to take into consideration.
just my thoughts.
Dafuk am I reading here??
amd vs NVidia what else?
Undying
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 07:15 PM
Same thing as always, why are you surprised?
Dafuk am I reading here??
Same thing as always, why are you surprised?
mitzi76
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 07:17 PM
mmm sorely tempted by a 290 plus waterblock was what i was gonna pay for a 780 minus a block....
when is Kepler due?
mmm sorely tempted by a 290 plus waterblock was what i was gonna pay for a 780 minus a block....
when is Kepler due?
Alex13
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 07:17 PM
ah good'ol hardware fanboism, the best kind!
ah good'ol hardware fanboism, the best kind!
Loophole35
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 07:17 PM
Wake me up when that cards that won't melt my PC or burn my house down are released.
Wake me up when that cards that won't melt my PC or burn my house down are released.
eclap
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 07:17 PM
go away then. it's you who came into a 290 thread and then posted these
If you're sick of AMD vs Nvidia, don't come into a 290 thread and talk about physx. GTFO with that chat. Also, you might not realize, but the pricing of both 290 and 780 is different in different countries so if someone calls it a rip off, it's based on what they see on their retailer's websites.
my thoughts exactly, I don't even wanna be here, but some folks ...
go away then. it's you who came into a 290 thread and then posted these
Yeah 290 a steal, 780 a rip off, whatever.
lol it's £50 more, big freaking uber PhysX deal.
im a 660ti minimum for PhysX kinda guy myself.
the only issue I have is that folks are unable to praise amd without poo pooing NVidia in same breath, aren't you guys sick of amd vs NVidia? I know I am.
If you're sick of AMD vs Nvidia, don't come into a 290 thread and talk about physx. GTFO with that chat. Also, you might not realize, but the pricing of both 290 and 780 is different in different countries so if someone calls it a rip off, it's based on what they see on their retailer's websites.
---TK---
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 07:19 PM
mmm sorely tempted by a 290 plus waterblock was what i was gonna pay for a 780 minus a block....
when is Kepler due?
Kepler has been out since March 2012 . Bring on Maxwell
mmm sorely tempted by a 290 plus waterblock was what i was gonna pay for a 780 minus a block....
when is Kepler due?
Kepler has been out since March 2012 . Bring on Maxwell
SLI-756
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Posted on: 11/05/2013 07:20 PM
so ya'll can talk bs about rip off NVidia?
you do realize we have guests here ..
go away then
so ya'll can talk bs about rip off NVidia?
you do realize we have guests here ..
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^^Here in Finland GTX 780 (factory overclocked, custom cooler, three game bundle...) is about 60€ more than vanilla 290.
Did any of you see Tom's R290 review? He put a retail R290X vs his two review samples R290 and R290X, and oddly enough the retail R290X was slower then the 2 review samples and the 780 across the board and just barley above the 770.
Could have been a fluke, but we know how shady GPU company's can be, and what they have been caught with in the past.
Yep. It sounds a bit troubling.