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PowerColor Radeon RX 5600 XT Red Dragon review
Posted by: on: 01/28/2020 11:07 AM [
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We test and review the new PowerColor Radeon RX 5600 XT Red Dragon. The Radeon RX 5600 XT is basically an RX 5700 however with 6GB of GDDR6, lower clock frequencies and a price tag of 279 USD. PowerColor is offering a terrific looking and very silent product, and even with that updated vBIOS it sells as low as $289,-
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warlord
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Posted on: 01/28/2020 11:40 AM
If it wasnt for the bios mess 5600xt would just be an amazing deal. Its closing in at 2060super and rx5700 at 289$ is impressive.
thats a nice review.
That price does not exist anywhere except US.
And as long as everyone outside US like Europe can easily find 5700/2060 under 349$ and 5700XT/2060S under 399$, it is not worth it at all.
If it wasnt for the bios mess 5600xt would just be an amazing deal. Its closing in at 2060super and rx5700 at 289$ is impressive.
thats a nice review.
That price does not exist anywhere except US.
And as long as everyone outside US like Europe can easily find 5700/2060 under 349$ and 5700XT/2060S under 399$, it is not worth it at all.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 01/28/2020 11:43 AM
€ 309.00 in the EU depending on VAT.
That price does not exist anywhere except US.
€ 309.00 in the EU depending on VAT.
Undying
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Posted on: 01/28/2020 11:44 AM
That price does not exist anywhere except US.
And as long as everyone outside US like Europe can easily find 5700/2060 under 349$ and 5700XT/2060S under 399$, it is not worth it at all.
5700 costs 330eur new here in Serbia but thats a blower model.
That price does not exist anywhere except US.
And as long as everyone outside US like Europe can easily find 5700/2060 under 349$ and 5700XT/2060S under 399$, it is not worth it at all.
5700 costs 330eur new here in Serbia but thats a blower model.
warlord
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Posted on: 01/28/2020 11:48 AM
Perhaps we should wait for more stores to have it on stock. Early fast adopters are testers even in pricing. I hope market will stabilize in February.
Well, even stock, it is faster and have 2gb more. You cannot fill the gap even with OC, there will be scenarios that 5600 will lose, despite being cooler.
Here in Greece, 330eur I can get RX 5700 MSI Mech and 370eur RX 5700 XT MSI Mech, not blower thing. It ain't bad scenario at all. 5600 is more expensive than cheapest 5700 here once again.
€ 309.00 in the EU depending on VAT.
Perhaps we should wait for more stores to have it on stock. Early fast adopters are testers even in pricing. I hope market will stabilize in February.
5700 costs 330eur new here in Serbia but thats a blower model.
Well, even stock, it is faster and have 2gb more. You cannot fill the gap even with OC, there will be scenarios that 5600 will lose, despite being cooler.
Here in Greece, 330eur I can get RX 5700 MSI Mech and 370eur RX 5700 XT MSI Mech, not blower thing. It ain't bad scenario at all. 5600 is more expensive than cheapest 5700 here once again.
BReal85
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Posted on: 01/28/2020 12:25 PM
That price does not exist anywhere except US.
And as long as everyone outside US like Europe can easily find 5700/2060 under 349$ and 5700XT/2060S under 399$, it is not worth it at all.
There is a huge portion (meaning most of them) of gamers who want to have CHEAPER GPUs. Yes, the 5700 has more VRAM. But it costs $50-60 more. Yes, you can have RTX2060 for $320 or so. But it is a bit slower and consumes a bit more power, so the efficiency of the 5600XT is better. And it's cheaper by $30-40. The 5700XT and 2060S are another league in terms of pricing, but not really in terms of performance. So if you want a more powerful midrange card than an RX 570 or a 1660Ti, the absolute best option is the 5600XT (and these are the best cards in the market right now). It can run 1080p games with high fps numbers and you can get solid fps in 1440p too.
That price does not exist anywhere except US.
And as long as everyone outside US like Europe can easily find 5700/2060 under 349$ and 5700XT/2060S under 399$, it is not worth it at all.
There is a huge portion (meaning most of them) of gamers who want to have CHEAPER GPUs. Yes, the 5700 has more VRAM. But it costs $50-60 more. Yes, you can have RTX2060 for $320 or so. But it is a bit slower and consumes a bit more power, so the efficiency of the 5600XT is better. And it's cheaper by $30-40. The 5700XT and 2060S are another league in terms of pricing, but not really in terms of performance. So if you want a more powerful midrange card than an RX 570 or a 1660Ti, the absolute best option is the 5600XT (and these are the best cards in the market right now). It can run 1080p games with high fps numbers and you can get solid fps in 1440p too.
Crazy Serb
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Posted on: 01/28/2020 07:24 PM
The only issue there is, that looks like price without taxes. Once you add taxes, prices end up in 400+ range...
5700 costs 330eur new here in Serbia but thats a blower model.
The only issue there is, that looks like price without taxes. Once you add taxes, prices end up in 400+ range...
anticupidon
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Posted on: 01/28/2020 07:31 PM
You wouldn't want to know EU price for that card.
You'll cry.
You wouldn't want to know EU price for that card.
You'll cry.
SweenJM
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Posted on: 01/29/2020 05:03 AM
Power Color is my second choice behind Sapphire. I'd pay $300 for a nitro edition.
Power Color is my second choice behind Sapphire. I'd pay $300 for a nitro edition.
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Posted on: 01/29/2020 01:56 PM
My dudes and dudettes, hear me out.
I'm setting up a rig for gaming and just saw that the fatboy RX590 is going for 179 (amzn)
Do you guys think it's worth shelling out the extra 160 USD for this 5600XT or just save it and upgrade sooner down the road?
I'll be playing on 1440. No plans for 4k.
Many thanks from your man in the bin.
My dudes and dudettes, hear me out.
I'm setting up a rig for gaming and just saw that the fatboy RX590 is going for 179 (amzn)
Do you guys think it's worth shelling out the extra 160 USD for this 5600XT or just save it and upgrade sooner down the road?
I'll be playing on 1440. No plans for 4k.
Many thanks from your man in the bin.
Undying
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Posted on: 01/29/2020 01:59 PM
My dudes and dudettes, hear me out.
I'm setting up a rig for gaming and just saw that the fatboy RX590 is going for 179 (amzn)
Do you guys think it's worth shelling out the extra 160 USD for this 5600XT or just save it and upgrade sooner down the road?
I'll be playing on 1440. No plans for 4k.
Many thanks from your man in the bin.
Fatboy is one of the worst 590's. Vrms have no cooling all you can see here about it :
My dudes and dudettes, hear me out.
I'm setting up a rig for gaming and just saw that the fatboy RX590 is going for 179 (amzn)
Do you guys think it's worth shelling out the extra 160 USD for this 5600XT or just save it and upgrade sooner down the road?
I'll be playing on 1440. No plans for 4k.
Many thanks from your man in the bin.
Fatboy is one of the worst 590's. Vrms have no cooling all you can see here about it :
alanm
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Posted on: 01/29/2020 03:33 PM
XFX 5700 @ Amazon for $299. Pretty sure it wont last, but wow, what a deal.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07XVMXBQW/
p.s. of course expect many of the 5600xt's to end up much lower than their current prices in due time.
XFX 5700 @ Amazon for $299. Pretty sure it wont last, but wow, what a deal.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07XVMXBQW/
p.s. of course expect many of the 5600xt's to end up much lower than their current prices in due time.
jortego128
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Posted on: 01/29/2020 04:19 PM
XFX 5700 @ Amazon for $299. Pretty sure it wont last, but wow, what a deal.
p.s. of course expect many of the 5600xt's to end up much lower than their current prices in due time.
We got one of those XFX DD's for $300 USD + tax about a month and a half ago. Fast card, that deal has been up pretty frequently. Ours was from Newegg. Makes 5600XT pricing seem not so great. 5600 should be $249 IMO.
XFX 5700 @ Amazon for $299. Pretty sure it wont last, but wow, what a deal.
p.s. of course expect many of the 5600xt's to end up much lower than their current prices in due time.
We got one of those XFX DD's for $300 USD + tax about a month and a half ago. Fast card, that deal has been up pretty frequently. Ours was from Newegg. Makes 5600XT pricing seem not so great. 5600 should be $249 IMO.
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Posted on: 01/29/2020 07:48 PM
I had to laugh when I saw them adding two thermal pads on the cooler to cool down te two missing vram modules. Lol!
I had to laugh when I saw them adding two thermal pads on the cooler to cool down te two missing vram modules. Lol!
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Posted on: 01/30/2020 09:21 AM
Nah. In Denmark, we're an expensive country, everyone knows that I think, there's 25% VAT on everything - the cheapest 5600 XT I can find is 2349kr, which is 314€. So I'd assume it's probably relatively the same across europe, although I know there are outlier countries where the poor economy apparently makes everything be way more expensive.
It is nice to see a bit of competition, though. Even though these cards that are supposed mid-range offerings are now sitting at around 30-50% higher than they were when the RX 580 and GTX 1060 launched.
Of course, they also perform way better, relatively, than those cards did at the time, I guess. So in that respect, the entire performance floor has gone up - we're no longer just looking at 1080p 60fps for baseline, now it's 1080p 120fps or even more. So I guess it's only natural that things increase in price as our demand for their quality increases.
The only issue there is, that looks like price without taxes. Once you add taxes, prices end up in 400+ range...
Nah. In Denmark, we're an expensive country, everyone knows that I think, there's 25% VAT on everything - the cheapest 5600 XT I can find is 2349kr, which is 314€. So I'd assume it's probably relatively the same across europe, although I know there are outlier countries where the poor economy apparently makes everything be way more expensive.
It is nice to see a bit of competition, though. Even though these cards that are supposed mid-range offerings are now sitting at around 30-50% higher than they were when the RX 580 and GTX 1060 launched.
Of course, they also perform way better, relatively, than those cards did at the time, I guess. So in that respect, the entire performance floor has gone up - we're no longer just looking at 1080p 60fps for baseline, now it's 1080p 120fps or even more. So I guess it's only natural that things increase in price as our demand for their quality increases.
vbetts
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Posted on: 01/30/2020 06:25 PM
There's actually 2 different versions of this card. Just built my brother a rig with the second version. Main differences are the fans are different, the shroud is different(but the actual heatsink is the same), and his version requires a 6 pin and an 8 pin connector. It does also have dual bios, a 12gbps and 14gbps bios. PCB didn't look at since we don't want to void the warranty, but I imagine it's the same.
There's actually 2 different versions of this card. Just built my brother a rig with the second version. Main differences are the fans are different, the shroud is different(but the actual heatsink is the same), and his version requires a 6 pin and an 8 pin connector. It does also have dual bios, a 12gbps and 14gbps bios. PCB didn't look at since we don't want to void the warranty, but I imagine it's the same.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 01/30/2020 07:03 PM
Red Dragon / Red Devil
ere's actually 2 different versions of this card
Red Dragon / Red Devil
vbetts
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Posted on: 01/31/2020 08:36 PM
Oh yeah. You right.
My reading skills are no good.
Red Dragon / Red Devil
Oh yeah. You right.
My reading skills are no good.
anticupidon
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Posted on: 02/01/2020 04:05 AM
I have an 10% discount on that price, goes for 273 with shipping. But I think it is still early days, prices will decrease as we approach March, when AMD is rumoured to gives us something.
I have an 10% discount on that price, goes for 273 with shipping. But I think it is still early days, prices will decrease as we approach March, when AMD is rumoured to gives us something.
Undying
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Posted on: 02/01/2020 06:44 AM
Now this is a good deal
Now this is a good deal
warlord
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Posted on: 02/01/2020 07:37 AM
At February all retailers will have proper prices and more 5600 xt's. Now someone only has to be extremely careful to buy a variant that can be absolutely flashed with faster clocks out of the box.
At February all retailers will have proper prices and more 5600 xt's. Now someone only has to be extremely careful to buy a variant that can be absolutely flashed with faster clocks out of the box.
Undying
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Posted on: 02/01/2020 07:45 AM
That gigabyte that card above is the same card many reviews tested it should have faster bios already flashed. For a 250eur its a hell of a deal, even 1660ti costs more than that.
At February all retailers will have proper prices and more 5600 xt's. Now someone only has to be extremely careful to buy a variant that can be absolutely flashed with faster clocks out of the box.
That gigabyte that card above is the same card many reviews tested it should have faster bios already flashed. For a 250eur its a hell of a deal, even 1660ti costs more than that.
vbetts
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Posted on: 02/02/2020 06:01 AM
We got the Red Devil 5600 for $289 at Microcenter.
At February all retailers will have proper prices and more 5600 xt's. Now someone only has to be extremely careful to buy a variant that can be absolutely flashed with faster clocks out of the box.
We got the Red Devil 5600 for $289 at Microcenter.
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Posted on: 02/02/2020 09:15 PM
Not everyone has a MicroCenter near them. Closest one to me is a 6hr round-trip.....
We got the Red Devil 5600 for $289 at Microcenter.
Not everyone has a MicroCenter near them. Closest one to me is a 6hr round-trip.....
vbetts
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Posted on: 02/02/2020 11:48 PM
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=484&sort=price&page=1
Non OC starts at $280. 5700 also starts at $320.
Not everyone has a MicroCenter near them. Closest one to me is a 6hr round-trip.....
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=484&sort=price&page=1
Non OC starts at $280. 5700 also starts at $320.
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If it wasnt for the bios mess 5600xt would just be an amazing deal. Its closing in at 2060super and rx5700 at 289$ is impressive.
thats a nice review.