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PowerColor Radeon R9 390 PCS+ 8GB review 4

Posted by: Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 07/01/2015 06:26 PM [ 25 comment(s) ]

We review the PowerColor Radeon R9 390 PCS+ 8 GB edition. The card's equipped with that renamed Hawaii Pro GPU, now called Grenada. It comes fitted with a massive triple slot air cooler keeping this product under 70 Degrees C, that's under full gaming load whilst being factory overclocked and fairly silent.

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Denial
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Posts: 14010
Posted on: 07/01/2015 09:02 PM
I wouldn't say nvidia is deliberately leaving market segments, but for the past 8 years or so they've been consistently and significantly more expensive than AMD, whether they were #1 or not. Even though nvidia currently own the crown for best overall performance and best performance-per-watt, that's no excuse for their GPUs to cost so much.


They have value-added features. I mean you can argue that you don't value those features, but they do exist and clearly the majority of the market (75%) value those to the point of buying their GPU's despite the cost difference.

schmidtbag
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Posts: 7163
Posted on: 07/01/2015 09:13 PM
They have value-added features. I mean you can argue that you don't value those features, but they do exist and clearly the majority of the market (75%) value those to the point of buying their GPU's despite the cost difference.

Other than the CUDA cores (and physx, which is CUDA based), what other features does nvidia offer that is unique to them? Most things they have, there is an AMD or open source alternative. Maybe not as polished, but still decent. Actually as of today, I'd say AMD currently has more features that are unique to them, like eyefinity (not sure if nvidia has an equivalent to that), Mantle, and TressFX. I'm not saying those are sought-after features, but my point is, I can't think of any features exclusive to nvidia that people want (that have no alternative).

EDIT:
For the record, I don't dislike nvidia. I bought as many nvidia GPUs as I've bought AMD/ATi.

vbetts



Posts: 15142
Posted on: 07/01/2015 09:18 PM
Other than the CUDA cores (and physx, which is CUDA based), what other features does nvidia offer that is unique to them? Most things they have, there is an AMD or open source alternative. Maybe not as polished, but still decent. Actually as of today, I'd say AMD currently has more features that are unique to them, like eyefinity (not sure if nvidia has an equivalent to that), Mantle, and TressFX. I'm not saying those are sought-after features, but my point is, I can't think of any features exclusive to nvidia that people want (that have no alternative).


Eyefinity is pretty much just a multiple monitor setup (Nvidia Surround). With 4k and even higher on the rise on a single monitor, Nvidia Surround and Eyefinity really aren't used as much anymore.

And yes AMD has other features such as Mantle or TressFX, however these aren't features that are widely used. Whereas with Nvidia, there are really only 2 main features. That's Cuda(which a good amount of programs use), and Physx(Not a whole lot use Physx, but a major game engine does).

Nvidia does also have HDMI 2.0 support for 4k at 60hz on the 970, 980, and ti I believe?

That being said, none of these features Nvidia has aren't important to me at least. :D Waiting on my Fury X to come in!

Agonist
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Posts: 4024
Posted on: 07/01/2015 09:23 PM
Other than the CUDA cores (and physx, which is CUDA based), what other features does nvidia offer that is unique to them? Most things they have, there is an AMD or open source alternative. Maybe not as polished, but still decent. Actually as of today, I'd say AMD currently has more features that are unique to them, like eyefinity (not sure if nvidia has an equivalent to that), Mantle, and TressFX. I'm not saying those are sought-after features, but my point is, I can't think of any features exclusive to nvidia that people want (that have no alternative).

EDIT:
For the record, I don't dislike nvidia. I bought as many nvidia GPUs as I've bought AMD/ATi.

Physx is about the only thing I can think of.
I have used both Radeon and Nvidia off and on now since 2008.
Nvidia has surround which is their version of eyefinity. Eyefinity is much more poished and feature savy imho. Have used both.
Most of Nvidias features are nvidia only crap honestly.
Nvidias gpus are quite over priced IMHO.
Been that way since the 8800 gtx launched.
Back when the X1900xtx was out and kicking the hell out of the 7900gtx, especially in DX9c games with HDR lighting and MSAA Nvidia was way more balanced in price point.
Plus Radeon gpus since the HD 7 series really hold their life longer. Just look at the HD 7950/70 R9 280/280x series of gpus. 280x is competing with the GTX 780 in alot of games now.

xIcarus
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Posts: 989
Posted on: 07/01/2015 09:29 PM
That doesn't make any sense. What is more logical is; AMD knows they have something that performs similar (depending on the game) to the 980 and decides to undercut Nvidia by quite a bit (which just eats into their margins), what does that have to do with nvidia "deliberately leaving market segments for AMD to grab"?


Come on, let's say you have a product and your competitor offers the same product at a better price. You as an owner WILL drop the price in order to stay competitive, otherwise you lose more than you gain.
Nvidia isn't doing this for some reason. I mean the 980 has to be one of the least sold cards in their current lineup. At least currently. I know it sold plenty when it first appeared.

They are greedy faks but I don't think they're actually hoping to sell more 980s.

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