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Plextor M8Pe 512GB M2 NVMe SSD review
Posted by: on: 09/06/2016 06:23 AM [
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In this review we test the super fast Plextor M8Pe 512GB Series M.2 SSDs. These new M.2 units use the nvm express (NVME) protocol and that means storage technology at terrific speeds while remaining competitive in pricing. Will Plextor be able to deliver a unit that manages to shock and awe?
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Marios145
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Posted on: 09/06/2016 07:48 AM
Well...that's early!
EDIT:
Hilbert, what's the CPU usage like at 200k IOPS? Are these "drives" cpu-limited?
Well...that's early!
EDIT:
Hilbert, what's the CPU usage like at 200k IOPS? Are these "drives" cpu-limited?
Kaarme
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Posted on: 09/06/2016 07:50 AM
Those prices look healthier than Samsung 950's. Samsung has had the whole market at its disposal for too long. Maybe 950 was beating this Plextor in most tests, although not all, but the price difference would win me over, provided this drive otherwise isn't causing troubles and is compatible.
Those prices look healthier than Samsung 950's. Samsung has had the whole market at its disposal for too long. Maybe 950 was beating this Plextor in most tests, although not all, but the price difference would win me over, provided this drive otherwise isn't causing troubles and is compatible.
Glottiz
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Posted on: 09/06/2016 08:09 AM
Samsung 960 PRO/EVO are coming out very soon, so if I was in the market for such drive I would wait a bit to see what these upcoming drives offer and how they are priced.
Samsung 960 PRO/EVO are coming out very soon, so if I was in the market for such drive I would wait a bit to see what these upcoming drives offer and how they are priced.
cryohellinc
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Posted on: 09/06/2016 08:30 AM
What is the practical application of such a fast SSD?
What is the practical application of such a fast SSD?
rl66
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Posted on: 09/06/2016 08:51 AM
it's usefull AND for the show, in intense use i get over 60°c on my samsung so i put vram rad that were taking dust in drawer now it keep below 50°C. But it is not so cute
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Is that heatspreader really necessary or is it just for show? I see it gets up to 50 degrees but what does that really mean? Anyone know the operating tolerances for this device?
it's usefull AND for the show, in intense use i get over 60°c on my samsung so i put vram rad that were taking dust in drawer now it keep below 50°C. But it is not so cute
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rl66
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Posted on: 09/06/2016 08:52 AM
Porn vid? lol
What is the practical application of such a fast SSD?
Porn vid? lol
fry178
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Posted on: 09/06/2016 09:30 AM
i sometimes have to questions "your" tips/recommendations.
why would you turn off write cache flushing?
not one of the major ssd makers if checked/used, not even ms/msdn is recommending it (except for some intel drives) unless THE SSD/HDD has a build-in backup battery (to write the data to disc in case of problems).
this has nothing to do with the computer losing power, so a UPS will NOT help..
i sometimes have to questions "your" tips/recommendations.
why would you turn off write cache flushing?
not one of the major ssd makers if checked/used, not even ms/msdn is recommending it (except for some intel drives) unless THE SSD/HDD has a build-in backup battery (to write the data to disc in case of problems).
this has nothing to do with the computer losing power, so a UPS will NOT help..
cryohellinc
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Posted on: 09/06/2016 09:50 AM
very primitive joke.
However seriously, what is the point of it? OS host? Server? Cache maybe?
I have my system on something like 3 year old SSD, 128gb, its fast, at least by my measurements. OS boots in something like 2-3 seconds ( not including post/bios ofc), and during load rest of software loads in 3-5 seconds. So if I had this installed it would boot in 1 second? Dont see much point for that for such a price. So i assume the application is different.
Porn vid? lol
very primitive joke.
However seriously, what is the point of it? OS host? Server? Cache maybe?
I have my system on something like 3 year old SSD, 128gb, its fast, at least by my measurements. OS boots in something like 2-3 seconds ( not including post/bios ofc), and during load rest of software loads in 3-5 seconds. So if I had this installed it would boot in 1 second? Dont see much point for that for such a price. So i assume the application is different.
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Posted on: 09/06/2016 01:14 PM
FWIW, I was looking to get all my Steam games on an ultra fast storage mechanism. I looked at NVMe and to get large sizes (2GB+) would have cost a fortune (let alone special cards needed for multiple M2's).
So I went with 6x OCZ Trion 150 $99 480GB SSDs with a cheap used SAS3003 PCIe 3.0 8x controller from Ebay, RAID0:
As I dont have my OS install on this (just games, all cloud) I dont even worry about reliability (its been perfect since install mind you). When I add 2x more 480GB's Ill have over 3TB with a total of 3500MB/s.
Just putting it out there as an alternative for the adventurous!
FWIW, I was looking to get all my Steam games on an ultra fast storage mechanism. I looked at NVMe and to get large sizes (2GB+) would have cost a fortune (let alone special cards needed for multiple M2's).
So I went with 6x OCZ Trion 150 $99 480GB SSDs with a cheap used SAS3003 PCIe 3.0 8x controller from Ebay, RAID0:
As I dont have my OS install on this (just games, all cloud) I dont even worry about reliability (its been perfect since install mind you). When I add 2x more 480GB's Ill have over 3TB with a total of 3500MB/s.
Just putting it out there as an alternative for the adventurous!
Han2K
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Posted on: 09/06/2016 01:52 PM
To feature it in your profile or signature.
What is the practical application of such a fast SSD?
To feature it in your profile or signature.
SSD_PRO
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Posted on: 09/06/2016 02:18 PM
At least this one has MLC like the RD400 from Toshiba. I'm very tired of seeing that "3D NAND" TLC crap.
At least this one has MLC like the RD400 from Toshiba. I'm very tired of seeing that "3D NAND" TLC crap.
FranciscoCL
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Posted on: 09/06/2016 02:22 PM
FWIW, I was looking to get all my Steam games on an ultra fast storage mechanism. I looked at NVMe and to get large sizes (2GB+) would have cost a fortune (let alone special cards needed for multiple M2's).
So I went with 6x OCZ Trion 150 $99 480GB SSDs with a cheap used SAS3003 PCIe 3.0 8x controller from Ebay, RAID0:
As I dont have my OS install on this (just games, all cloud) I dont even worry about reliability (its been perfect since install mind you). When I add 2x more 480GB's Ill have over 3TB with a total of 3500MB/s.
Just putting it out there as an alternative for the adventurous!
Insane speeds for sure. Please make a video with game loading time when yor setup is finished.
FWIW, I was looking to get all my Steam games on an ultra fast storage mechanism. I looked at NVMe and to get large sizes (2GB+) would have cost a fortune (let alone special cards needed for multiple M2's).
So I went with 6x OCZ Trion 150 $99 480GB SSDs with a cheap used SAS3003 PCIe 3.0 8x controller from Ebay, RAID0:
As I dont have my OS install on this (just games, all cloud) I dont even worry about reliability (its been perfect since install mind you). When I add 2x more 480GB's Ill have over 3TB with a total of 3500MB/s.
Just putting it out there as an alternative for the adventurous!
Insane speeds for sure. Please make a video with game loading time when yor setup is finished.
Kaarme
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Posted on: 09/06/2016 02:27 PM
They can put also other types than TLC in 3D. Like Samsung does and probably others as well.
I'm very tired of seeing that "3D NAND" TLC crap.
They can put also other types than TLC in 3D. Like Samsung does and probably others as well.
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Posted on: 09/06/2016 03:10 PM
Some games will show a good speed up in load times with this Plextor over my Samsung 512GB 850 Pro.
Far Cry 2 (yeah I still play it now and then lol ) has horrendous load times once you have a bunch of saved games for example!
Other games like Star Citizen could also do with more speed it seems to me without checking exactly where its loading bottleneck is, I am sure there are many more games that would benefit from a drive like this one.
Games aside there are plenty of other things that would like more speed, big database work certainly would, I currently load things like this into a RAMDrive to speed them up.
My next system will definitely have something like this in it ^^
- and still more RAM
Some games will show a good speed up in load times with this Plextor over my Samsung 512GB 850 Pro.
Far Cry 2 (yeah I still play it now and then lol ) has horrendous load times once you have a bunch of saved games for example!
Other games like Star Citizen could also do with more speed it seems to me without checking exactly where its loading bottleneck is, I am sure there are many more games that would benefit from a drive like this one.
Games aside there are plenty of other things that would like more speed, big database work certainly would, I currently load things like this into a RAMDrive to speed them up.
My next system will definitely have something like this in it ^^
- and still more RAM
rl66
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Posted on: 09/06/2016 03:25 PM
very primitive joke.
However seriously, what is the point of it? OS host? Server? Cache maybe?
i agree about the joke
you may need it for wathever you want the most fast you get the better it is.
as any product the limit is "how much would you accept to spend for it ???"
in some next future it will be slow an oyster running (or as a 5200r HDD :pc1, as always with new stuff.
very primitive joke.
However seriously, what is the point of it? OS host? Server? Cache maybe?
i agree about the joke
you may need it for wathever you want the most fast you get the better it is.
as any product the limit is "how much would you accept to spend for it ???"
in some next future it will be slow an oyster running (or as a 5200r HDD :pc1
, as always with new stuff.
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Posted on: 09/06/2016 07:37 PM
Faster Load time...
What is the practical application of such a fast SSD?
Faster Load time...
LimitbreakOr
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Posted on: 09/06/2016 08:38 PM
Some games will show a good speed up in load times with this Plextor over my Samsung 512GB 850 Pro.
Far Cry 2 (yeah I still play it now and then lol ) has horrendous load times once you have a bunch of saved games for example!
Yeah! I've been playing the Witcher Enhanced lately as i'm trying to pick up the witcher games and having it installed on my Intel 530 240GB, i actually had some hang time when the game was loading new areas. So I decided to install it on my Samsung 950 Pro and it actually turned the hang times into tiny micro pauses that's barely noticeable.
Some games will show a good speed up in load times with this Plextor over my Samsung 512GB 850 Pro.
Far Cry 2 (yeah I still play it now and then lol ) has horrendous load times once you have a bunch of saved games for example!
Yeah! I've been playing the Witcher Enhanced lately as i'm trying to pick up the witcher games and having it installed on my Intel 530 240GB, i actually had some hang time when the game was loading new areas. So I decided to install it on my Samsung 950 Pro and it actually turned the hang times into tiny micro pauses that's barely noticeable.
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Posted on: 09/06/2016 08:55 PM
Yeah games like Fallout 4 would probably love a 1GB/s+ drive a lot for that reason.
(Need to get a SSD for whenever I build the next system, SATA4 is probably a bit further off still though but NVME together with the M.2 connection looks like a solid combo.)
Faster Load time...
Yeah games like Fallout 4 would probably love a 1GB/s+ drive a lot for that reason.
(Need to get a SSD for whenever I build the next system, SATA4 is probably a bit further off still though but NVME together with the M.2 connection looks like a solid combo.)
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Posted on: 09/07/2016 12:18 AM
Thank you for one more nice review Hilbert Hagedoorn!
To increase the lifespan and performance of SSD with enough RAM and
an UPS(uninterruptible power supply) we can use a software like PrimoCache(old FancyCache)
with Defer-Write Enabled, PrimoCache is like Samsung RAPID with lots more options/functions...
It is a very interesting software, the explanation https://www.romexsoftware.com/en-us/primo-cache/example-reduce-ssd-wear.html
Here PrimoCache is set as Write Only with Defer-Write enabled and Windows HD policy
without "Enable write caching on the drive", the Windows System caches the reads(no way to disable)
and PrimoCache the writes...
Thank you for one more nice review Hilbert Hagedoorn!
To increase the lifespan and performance of SSD with enough RAM and
an UPS(uninterruptible power supply) we can use a software like PrimoCache(old FancyCache)
with Defer-Write Enabled, PrimoCache is like Samsung RAPID with lots more options/functions...
It is a very interesting software, the explanation https://www.romexsoftware.com/en-us/primo-cache/example-reduce-ssd-wear.html
Here PrimoCache is set as Write Only with Defer-Write enabled and Windows HD policy
without "Enable write caching on the drive", the Windows System caches the reads(no way to disable)
and PrimoCache the writes...
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Posted on: 09/10/2016 05:42 PM
Better later than never...
Hilbert, thanks for the in-depth review, i am also very interested in NVMe development, as SATA AHCI reached the limit.
This is by far the most wanted review for me, and cleared a lot of things.
As i am so lucky to own a Z10 motherboard (Thanks again Hilbert) this Plextor NVMe MLC SSD is what i want now, but i am unable to buy it.. i couldn't find it anywhere...
Better later than never...
Hilbert, thanks for the in-depth review, i am also very interested in NVMe development, as SATA AHCI reached the limit.
This is by far the most wanted review for me, and cleared a lot of things.
As i am so lucky to own a Z10 motherboard (Thanks again Hilbert) this Plextor NVMe MLC SSD is what i want now, but i am unable to buy it.. i couldn't find it anywhere...
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Is that heatspreader really necessary or is it just for show? I see it gets up to 50 degrees but what does that really mean? Anyone know the operating tolerances for this device?