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Aura89
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Posted on: 03/16/2019 01:29 AM
Great question, we take an extreme case like 1440P or even 4K maxed out, things these cards never meant for, and see if VRAM becomes an issue.
we can't never guess what requirements for future games will be but let me tell you something. the GTX 1060 is the most popular GPU in the world(Steam Hardware Survey)
even game developer knows it and requiring more than 6GB today would really hurt sales.
1660Ti / 1660 do not show VRAM issues in high resolutions, the core is bottlenecking the card way before the memory.
This is what i have been saying. You look at 4k games and i have yet to see a game that suddenly makes the 8gb 580 better then the 4gb 580, at worst theres a 1fps difference, regardless of what the game says it can utilize.
So 6gb, no problem, if you want to game at 4k at decent fps, the gpu power and ram speed is what will get you there, not the increase in ram, as of yet.
Lately many people on these forums just seem to care about a number rather then actual performance in games.
Great question, we take an extreme case like 1440P or even 4K maxed out, things these cards never meant for, and see if VRAM becomes an issue.
we can't never guess what requirements for future games will be but let me tell you something. the GTX 1060 is the most popular GPU in the world(Steam Hardware Survey)
even game developer knows it and requiring more than 6GB today would really hurt sales.
1660Ti / 1660 do not show VRAM issues in high resolutions, the core is bottlenecking the card way before the memory.
This is what i have been saying. You look at 4k games and i have yet to see a game that suddenly makes the 8gb 580 better then the 4gb 580, at worst theres a 1fps difference, regardless of what the game says it can utilize.
So 6gb, no problem, if you want to game at 4k at decent fps, the gpu power and ram speed is what will get you there, not the increase in ram, as of yet.
Lately many people on these forums just seem to care about a number rather then actual performance in games.
Undying
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Posted on: 03/16/2019 01:38 AM
This is what i have been saying. You look at 4k games and i have yet to see a game that suddenly makes the 8gb 580 better then the 4gb 580, at worst theres a 1fps difference, regardless of what the game says it can utilize.
So 6gb, no problem, if you want to game at 4k at decent fps, the gpu power and ram speed is what will get you there, not the increase in ram, as of yet.
Lately many people on these forums just seem to care about a number rather then actual performance in games.
I think in Hardware unboxed RE2 benchmark he was talking how Fury cards and 580 4gb have issues at highest settings only becouse it was lacking vram while 580 8gb was far above it.
That was even at 1080p. There is quite a few examples like this.
This is what i have been saying. You look at 4k games and i have yet to see a game that suddenly makes the 8gb 580 better then the 4gb 580, at worst theres a 1fps difference, regardless of what the game says it can utilize.
So 6gb, no problem, if you want to game at 4k at decent fps, the gpu power and ram speed is what will get you there, not the increase in ram, as of yet.
Lately many people on these forums just seem to care about a number rather then actual performance in games.
I think in Hardware unboxed RE2 benchmark he was talking how Fury cards and 580 4gb have issues at highest settings only becouse it was lacking vram while 580 8gb was far above it.
That was even at 1080p. There is quite a few examples like this.
Aura89
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Posted on: 03/16/2019 03:19 AM
I think in Hardware unboxed RE2 benchmark he was talking how Fury cards and 580 4gb have issues at highest settings only becouse it was lacking vram while 580 8gb was far above it.
That was even at 1080p. There is quite a few examples like this.
Techspot shows a marginal difference at 1080p vs 580 4gb and 8gb, and shows the 980 ti doing better then both with less ram then the 8gb rx 580, as well as much better for the 2060 with again less ram then the 8gb rx 580.
I'm not going to touch hardware unboxed since its a useless youtube channel.
But while yes, in resident evil 2, you get better fps with 8gb for likely unoptimized game code, but a small amount, its not the norm, you will find massively more games that do not care then you will find unoptimizes games that do care about the 4gb vs 8gb, this is fact, if you deny this, you deny direct facts.
Most review websites dont even test the 4gb and 8gb against eachother because more often then not there is no difference. This has already been discussed before over and over again, but people like you are unwilling to understand the simple facta of the situation and only care about their own narrative and like to pop up when they find one game that says otherwise and suggests their opinion must be fact and waive it around like its the holy grail.
Fact is this: Do not care how much ram a graphics card is, UNLESS there is adequate, not one off situations, that show at your resolution you game at means a card with higher amount of ram would be better. ONLY take that singular game into the equation if it is the ONE game you plan on playing 99% of the time, which is up to you, but thats a YOU thing not an overall thing. Stop caring about the amount of ram a graphics card has, and start caring what the overall PERFORMANCE of the card is in the games YOU like to play is.
I think in Hardware unboxed RE2 benchmark he was talking how Fury cards and 580 4gb have issues at highest settings only becouse it was lacking vram while 580 8gb was far above it.
That was even at 1080p. There is quite a few examples like this.
Techspot shows a marginal difference at 1080p vs 580 4gb and 8gb, and shows the 980 ti doing better then both with less ram then the 8gb rx 580, as well as much better for the 2060 with again less ram then the 8gb rx 580.
I'm not going to touch hardware unboxed since its a useless youtube channel.
But while yes, in resident evil 2, you get better fps with 8gb for likely unoptimized game code, but a small amount, its not the norm, you will find massively more games that do not care then you will find unoptimizes games that do care about the 4gb vs 8gb, this is fact, if you deny this, you deny direct facts.
Most review websites dont even test the 4gb and 8gb against eachother because more often then not there is no difference. This has already been discussed before over and over again, but people like you are unwilling to understand the simple facta of the situation and only care about their own narrative and like to pop up when they find one game that says otherwise and suggests their opinion must be fact and waive it around like its the holy grail.
Fact is this: Do not care how much ram a graphics card is, UNLESS there is adequate, not one off situations, that show at your resolution you game at means a card with higher amount of ram would be better. ONLY take that singular game into the equation if it is the ONE game you plan on playing 99% of the time, which is up to you, but thats a YOU thing not an overall thing. Stop caring about the amount of ram a graphics card has, and start caring what the overall PERFORMANCE of the card is in the games YOU like to play is.
HardwareCaps
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Posted on: 03/16/2019 05:10 PM
I think in Hardware unboxed RE2 benchmark he was talking how Fury cards and 580 4gb have issues at highest settings only becouse it was lacking vram while 580 8gb was far above it.
That was even at 1080p. There is quite a few examples like this.
Fury suffers in general, if you look at their video the RX 580 4GB was more consistent as well
I think in Hardware unboxed RE2 benchmark he was talking how Fury cards and 580 4gb have issues at highest settings only becouse it was lacking vram while 580 8gb was far above it.
That was even at 1080p. There is quite a few examples like this.
Fury suffers in general, if you look at their video the RX 580 4GB was more consistent as well
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As long as people buy the right GPU for what they need, everyone is happy.
EDIT: Only checked the GamingX charts, jesus this card beats the 590 more often than not. Awkward for AMD.