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MSI Radeon RX 570 and 580 MECH 2 8G OC review
Posted by: on: 08/07/2018 02:01 PM [
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We review the MSI Radeon RX 570 and 580 MECH 2 OC with 8GB graphics memory. This all-new two slot cooled mainstream graphics card series will allow you to play your games in both the Full HD 1080P as well as gaming in WQHD (2560x1440) domain. The new MECH 2 series come with revamped looks and cooling.
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Elder III
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Posted on: 08/07/2018 05:49 PM
These are supposed to be replacing the Armor series right? What % is the fan speed when under full load? In my experience the Rx 580 Armor series did not keep up with the heat very well unless the fan speed was manually set to ~70-80% or higher.
These are supposed to be replacing the Armor series right? What % is the fan speed when under full load? In my experience the Rx 580 Armor series did not keep up with the heat very well unless the fan speed was manually set to ~70-80% or higher.
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Posted on: 08/07/2018 06:11 PM
my 480 does ok ...I need to clean it/ 3 years old...
These are supposed to be replacing the Armor series right? What % is the fan speed when under full load? In my experience the Rx 580 Armor series did not keep up with the heat very well unless the fan speed was manually set to ~70-80% or higher.
my 480 does ok ...I need to clean it/ 3 years old...
Kaarme
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Posted on: 08/07/2018 06:26 PM
A pretty good verification to the general belief there won't be new consumer Radeon GPUs any time soon. Otherwise MSI (or anyone) wouldn't have wasted time in rereleasing an old video card.
A new model of a 1 year, 4 months old graphics card... o_O
A pretty good verification to the general belief there won't be new consumer Radeon GPUs any time soon. Otherwise MSI (or anyone) wouldn't have wasted time in rereleasing an old video card.
vbetts
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Posted on: 08/07/2018 06:35 PM
Same thing happens with most Pascal variants.
A new model of a 1 year, 4 months old graphics card... o_O
Same thing happens with most Pascal variants.
JamesSneed
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Posted on: 08/07/2018 07:29 PM
Yeah it is a bit of a weird situation. Course the GTX 1070 came out June of 2016 and it still being sold as viable is a little silly too. The upgrade cycles have been extended a good bit and I blame mining for most of it. Some of it is new process and a desire to get on 7nm.
A new model of a 1 year, 4 months old graphics card... o_O
Yeah it is a bit of a weird situation. Course the GTX 1070 came out June of 2016 and it still being sold as viable is a little silly too. The upgrade cycles have been extended a good bit and I blame mining for most of it. Some of it is new process and a desire to get on 7nm.
BReal85
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Posted on: 08/07/2018 08:21 PM
You may be right, but MSI introduced this series because they sold themselves for the GPP and ASRock is a brand new name in the AIB market.
A pretty good verification to the general belief there won't be new consumer Radeon GPUs any time soon. Otherwise MSI (or anyone) wouldn't have wasted time in rereleasing an old video card.
You may be right, but MSI introduced this series because they sold themselves for the GPP and ASRock is a brand new name in the AIB market.
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Posted on: 08/07/2018 08:39 PM
I might be wrong, but if this is the result of GPP, then this should be replacing the GAMING series, not armor...
These are supposed to be replacing the Armor series right? What % is the fan speed when under full load? In my experience the Rx 580 Armor series did not keep up with the heat very well unless the fan speed was manually set to ~70-80% or higher.
I might be wrong, but if this is the result of GPP, then this should be replacing the GAMING series, not armor...
Mat
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Posted on: 08/07/2018 11:11 PM
I honestly just want someone to release something soon!, not so I can buy it!, so that I can get a very good ultra settings 1080p 60fps card on the cheep!!!, I'm quite happy with 1080p 60fps, I just can't and will not pay over the odds for what's on offer at the moment.....
I honestly just want someone to release something soon!, not so I can buy it!, so that I can get a very good ultra settings 1080p 60fps card on the cheep!!!, I'm quite happy with 1080p 60fps, I just can't and will not pay over the odds for what's on offer at the moment.....
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Posted on: 08/07/2018 11:31 PM
Yeah, I think you may be right there. The gaming series coolers were/are very good and these look like they are more similar to those in performance then the Armor series.
I might be wrong, but if this is the result of GPP, then this should be replacing the GAMING series, not armor...
Yeah, I think you may be right there. The gaming series coolers were/are very good and these look like they are more similar to those in performance then the Armor series.
AlmondMan
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Posted on: 08/08/2018 09:45 AM
Yeah, same here. It's absolutely absurd that a RX 580 is still 25-50% more today (on the new sales that pop up here and there) than what I paid for a RX 480 almost 2 years ago.
I honestly just want someone to release something soon!, not so I can buy it!, so that I can get a very good ultra settings 1080p 60fps card on the cheep!!!, I'm quite happy with 1080p 60fps, I just can't and will not pay over the odds for what's on offer at the moment.....
Yeah, same here. It's absolutely absurd that a RX 580 is still 25-50% more today (on the new sales that pop up here and there) than what I paid for a RX 480 almost 2 years ago.
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Posted on: 08/08/2018 01:15 PM
It's more like 'Meh', these cards are slower than 3 year old nVidia cards.
Miners might be instereseted, though.
It's more like 'Meh', these cards are slower than 3 year old nVidia cards.
Miners might be instereseted, though.
vbetts
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Posted on: 08/08/2018 01:35 PM
It's more like 'Meh', these cards are slower than 3 year old nVidia cards.
Miners might be instereseted, though.
The 980 ti was a $650 card. The RX 580 8GB was launched at $229(though sold usually for more)
Can't really compare the two. If we're gonna go that route, the 1060 performs lower than a 3 year old Nvidia card, the 1070 only performs marginially higher than a 3 year old Nvidia card, which I could understand if the 580 performed lower than the 970 or even the 980, but different price point cards. You can't really compare the two.
It's more like 'Meh', these cards are slower than 3 year old nVidia cards.
Miners might be instereseted, though.
The 980 ti was a $650 card. The RX 580 8GB was launched at $229(though sold usually for more)
Can't really compare the two. If we're gonna go that route, the 1060 performs lower than a 3 year old Nvidia card, the 1070 only performs marginially higher than a 3 year old Nvidia card, which I could understand if the 580 performed lower than the 970 or even the 980, but different price point cards. You can't really compare the two.
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Posted on: 08/09/2018 04:16 PM
to think that the rx 580 saps power around the same as gtx 1080 is very disheartening.
to think that the rx 580 saps power around the same as gtx 1080 is very disheartening.
vbetts
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Posted on: 08/09/2018 05:22 PM
This is nothing new for AMD cards. AMD cards even before when it was ATI were always power hungry. The only series I think that Nvidia had that drew more power than the AMD/ATI offerings were Fermi cards, but people still bought those and didn't complain.
Really most people buying gaming PC's don't look at this. People that are new into PC gaming and don't really know how to look at this won't really care either.
to think that the rx 580 saps power around the same as gtx 1080 is very disheartening.
This is nothing new for AMD cards. AMD cards even before when it was ATI were always power hungry. The only series I think that Nvidia had that drew more power than the AMD/ATI offerings were Fermi cards, but people still bought those and didn't complain.
Really most people buying gaming PC's don't look at this. People that are new into PC gaming and don't really know how to look at this won't really care either.
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Posted on: 08/26/2018 10:29 PM
I was considering this for a cheap stop-gap 1080p card in a Razer Core X that would work with both a Windows ultrabook with a new 4-core 8550U and also a Macbook Pro 15.. both with 4-lane TB3. I could get an nvidia 20 series somewhere down the road, hopefully by then Apple might have seamless nVidia eGPU supprt in OS X without hacking.
I can't find this card for sale anywhere though. I really like the fan noise levels in this review.
I was considering this for a cheap stop-gap 1080p card in a Razer Core X that would work with both a Windows ultrabook with a new 4-core 8550U and also a Macbook Pro 15.. both with 4-lane TB3. I could get an nvidia 20 series somewhere down the road, hopefully by then Apple might have seamless nVidia eGPU supprt in OS X without hacking.
I can't find this card for sale anywhere though. I really like the fan noise levels in this review.
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A new model of a 1 year, 4 months old graphics card... o_O